Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[Cress!]

I mean, yeah. It'd be worthwhile because it would be easier to use and more accessible. I don't know why you guys still post on here as regularly as you do. This site isn't really great for that kind of thing; but if you just want to be "unique" in how you chat with one another, that's fine. I think it would be far cleaner experience, though. Your choice in the end.

I've already explained it and a few others have given their thoughts as well.

Skype groups are fine with like 7 or less people, but a social thread like this with 20ish active members and a few others that pop in and out at times would be too hectic.

 

[evmaxy54]

Anyone want to play for like 20 mins before I have to go to the big and scary tourney?

If you're still about yea

 

[Macchiato]

Anyone want to play for like 20 mins before I have to go to the big and scary tourney?

WHERE IS THE STREAM LINK?????

 

[Rickster]

If you're still about yea

I'm about to leave now ;_;

WHERE IS THE STREAM LINK?????

It's a Tourney Locator stream (Shockwave to be exact) but I doubt I'll make it on stream, lol.

 

[Macchiato]

I'm about to leave now ;_;

It's a Tourney Locator stream (Shockwave to be exact) but I doubt I'll make it on stream, lol.

Just say that you main Zelda and you'll get on stream.

 

[evmaxy54]

I'm about to leave now ;_;

It's a Tourney Locator stream (Shockwave to be exact) but I doubt I'll make it on stream, lol.

R.I.P. hopes & dreams

Good luck sis!

Just focus on outplaying your opponent & you'll be grand

 

[Rickster]

Just say that you main Zelda and you'll get on stream.

But what if I suck?

I can't even get Jab>Fair consistently rn in Training RIP me

 

[Macchiato]

But what if I suck?

I can't even get Jab>Fair consistently rn in Training RIP me

Don't go for it. It's better to go for DA.

 

[evmaxy54]

But what if I suck?

I can't even get Jab>Fair consistently rn in Training RIP me

Considering that requires like precise spacing to do I wouldn't be too upset if I couldn't do it

 

[Rickster]

Don't go for it. It's better to go for DA.

But...

It doesn't look as cool

At least I got the timing down for snapping the ledge from above. This will probably be really useful. Hopefully.

 

[Macchiato]

But...

It doesn't look as cool
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You know what the coolest thing is?

Winning an actual match with Zelda on stream

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[Rickster]

Watch me get matched up with someone like Aerolink for my first game

I'll die

 

[KarmaCastle]

I'm about to leave now ;_;

It's a Tourney Locator stream (Shockwave to be exact) but I doubt I'll make it on stream, lol.

Go gorl! If you find out you'll be on stream ahead of time let us know ASAP and give us a general link or their channel's name.

We'll tune in and be with you in spirit. We'll lend you our Sass energy for the Sass bomb

 

[evmaxy54]

Watch me get matched up with someone like Aerolink for my first game

I'll die

Who cares lol

Don't think about who you're playing against. Think about what character you're facing & your gameplan when fighting said character.

But most importantly

DONT BE AFRAID TO LOSE

Don't make me go posting every PPMD/SleepyK quote I can find til I hammer this **** into ya ;_;

Even though I'm probz gonna do it when you get home anyways lololololololol

 

[Macchiato]

Watch me get matched up with someone like Aerolink for my first game

I'll die

The players to watch out for are

Mew^2
Aerolink
Hyrule Hero
Dakpo
Karna
Denti
F2P Gibus

 

[Rickster]

Who cares lol

Don't think about who you're playing against. Think about what character you're facing & your gameplan when fighting said character.

But most importantly

DONT BE AFRAID TO LOSE

Don't make me go posting every PPMD/SleepyK quote I can find til I hammer this **** into ya ;_;

Even though I'm probz gonna do it when you get home anyways lololololololol

I'll be sure to keep this in mind. I'm gonna try and just act calm and semi-confident (I don't want to come off as rude or anything). Thanks gorl.

The players to watch out for are

Mew^2
Aerolink
Hyrule Hero
Dakpo
Karna
Denti
F2P Gibus

Hmm...some of these are a little concerning. I have little experience vs MewTwo, Palutena, and Olimar. Zero Suit and Luigi are definitely gonna be tough, especially ZSS. Lucario and Greninja are just meh. Sheik will probably be trouble, but I know a little more about her than the others.

Thanks for the tips gorl.

 

[KarmaCastle]

Aerolink relies heavily on jab reset > grab game. From what I've noticed anyways, if that helps.

 

[evmaxy54]

I'll be sure to keep this in mind. I'm gonna try and just act calm and semi-confident (I don't want to come off as rude or anything). Thanks gorl.

Hmm...some of these are a little concerning. I have little experience vs MewTwo, Palutena, and Olimar. Zero Suit and Luigi are definitely gonna be tough, especially ZSS. Lucario and Greninja are just meh. Sheik will probably be trouble, but I know a little more about her than the others.

Thanks for the tips gorl.

I'm already compiling a giant ass post to you as we speak btw

 

[Gay Ginger]

KIU Spoilers

Spoiler

Palutena isn't really that powerful. She's actually one of the easier boss fights in the game... Although the point of her boss fight is to not hit her. She's actually quite frail, and one-shotting her on accident is pretty common. She can summon giant lazers that could obliterate something the size of Kraid, but that requires an actual minute of charge time.

Spoiler

Doesn't she also transform Pit into a ring though? If she can turn people into inanimate objects, she basically automatically wins lol.

Also wasn't she severely weakened by trying to stop the Chaos Kin from taking her soul for 3 years? I don't think her "fragility" in that boss bottle is really indicative of her power, to be honest.

We don't really know how powerful she really is, but she's certainly more powerful than Pit -- whose abilities are almost entirely granted by Palutena -- and since she can transform people into objects, seemingly teleport objects to Pit to aid him, and obliterate giant monsters with blasts of light while not even being present on the battlefield, she seems to be a lot more powerful than any other character in Sm4sh, in my opinion

 

[Rickster]

At least I still have an hour of sitting in a car and thinking about how to handle bad MUs and stuff.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Should we raid her agent? I mean at this point, we're kind of obligated to

So after like 5 minutes of looking it up on google, I'm pretty sure I know who she is. I'm going to check with my friend who actually listens to kpop :^)

omg i can't
"She’s known as a ‘bagel’ (yes like the food). ‘Bagel’ is a nickname in Korea for girls with a baby face, and glamorous body. Ba+Gl=Bagel."

SECRETBAGELPOP

 

[Lavani]

At least I still have an hour of sitting in a car to learn Sheik.

@Berserker. isn't here so I'll cover for him this time

 

[Virtue]

So my tournament match has been posted. If anyone watches, can they give me advice on my characters?

 

[evmaxy54]

At least I still have an hour of sitting in a car and thinking about how to handle bad MUs and stuff.

Good.

Read the PPMD posts & the SleepyK one at least now if you are on 3G or something

 

[Macchiato]

@XDanDan612

I made @Dabuz like Melanie Martinez omg. Next we come for @Cap'nChreest

 

[KarmaCastle]

At least I still have an hour of sitting in a car and thinking about how to handle bad MUs and stuff.

Just don't get too worried about anything. At my 45 man tourney I just got in the car and jammed, avoided thinking about the game too much. Anxiety is the worst thing you can build before starting your sets.

Admittedly I got very lucky with the seeding. I went up against a Sheik of roughly my level and she was a very sweethearted girl which helped me avoid freaking out. My hands were still shaking after our very close second stock 2-1 match... But like the other gorl said, just remember they're people who play the game like you.

I remember thinking I'd be up against people that just wreck and body and pull Nairo/Zero shenanigans, but once the games actually started it became a lot easier and relaxed when I just played the game like I would any other person. I even 2-stocked the winner's bracket > eventual losers bracket finalist guy the first round with lightning kicks. They're just people. And people can be read

Also I draw energy from crowds. When I got a lightning kick KO on the ness, everyone was doing the whole "OOOHHHHH DAAAAAMNNNN WE GOT A ZELDA." I can guarantee that unless there's a local fan favorite, playing Zelda is guaranteed to make you the crowd favorite. Use that energy. (Alternatively it's like they aren't even there if that freaks you out; the games get waaay intense. I only noticed them after KOs)

 

[Rickster]

I'm gonna have to go now since my phone is at 20% and I need to make this last 6 more hours, lol. Thanks for all the advice!

BAN•ZELDA

 

[LancerStaff]

Spoiler

Doesn't she also transform Pit into a ring though? If she can turn people into inanimate objects, she basically automatically wins lol.

Also wasn't she severely weakened by trying to stop the Chaos Kin from taking her soul for 3 years? I don't think her "fragility" in that boss bottle is really indicative of her power, to be honest.

We don't really know how powerful she really is, but she's certainly more powerful than Pit -- whose abilities are almost entirely granted by Palutena -- and since she can transform people into objects, seemingly teleport objects to Pit to aid him, and obliterate giant monsters with blasts of light while not even being present on the battlefield, she seems to be a lot more powerful than any other character in Sm4sh, in my opinion

Spoiler

Turning Pit into a ring was the Chaos Kin's doing, and Palutena implies that she was showing off her strength during that fight in her reveal trailer. The powers she grants aren't special outside of the somewhat limited power of flight.

 

[McKnightlíght]

I'm gonna have to go now since my phone is at 20% and I need to make this last 6 more hours, lol. Thanks for all the advice!

BAN•ZELDA

No wait before you leave I need to tell you to main Sheik!

 

[KarmaCastle]

So my tournament match has been posted. If anyone watches, can they give me advice on my characters?

There's a video feedback thread where @Zylach provides incredible feedback in. That's more the place for asking for advice and such, but I still took a look!

Both of your characters lack mobility. It's partly patience (wanting your opponent to do something you can punish) but often you'd empty hop and then just stay in place for a few seconds. In live matches against serious opponents, that makes you easier to target. I also noticed a lack of fast falling (though admittedly you were avoiding the air for the most part.) You also don't follow up if it's not guaranteed. This can be a really good habit but sometimes a risk is worth it. Such as when you'd pop the Ryu in the air you'd go for a fair/nair against him and then back off so he wasn't really pressured.

The Pacman also started adapting to your rolls pretty hard like the commentators pointed out; he started waiting for it and then dash attacking into you.

Last bit of specifics I noticed is that you have a similar habit I do which is to use NL if they try to approach; that's our worst option in the Neutral game because it's so laggy that if they end up rolling back and faking you out, you'll get punished hard. It's a good "back off" or follow up tool out of nair, and CAN stop approaches, but against "Real" opponents that are faking aggression it's really dangerous to use. I have this exact same habit ><.

Otherwise great job avoiding the air game as Zelda. I feel like you kinda avoided it TOO hard (Pacmans air game is worse than ours, imo) but you stayed grounded really really well against him. And didn't give up; actually got him up to kill %, excellent adaptation of patience towards the end.

 

[Rickster]

So I found a random car charger

We livin'

 

[KarmaCastle]

So I found a random car charger

We livin'

I was about to remind you it's 2015 and we have the technology for "mobile chargers."

You planning to go full ham Zelda only, or bail out after a loss to fall back on someone less sassy

Not that playing to win in tournaments isn't respectable.

 

[evmaxy54]

Reposting these videos because they are incredible & you all suck for not watching them

http://youtu.be/_t8WyVU-3Ts
http://youtu.be/V5DA3RM5WAM
http://youtu.be/VWQEjGJBEg0

 

[McKnightlíght]

So I found a random car charger

We livin'

Stealing is not ok. Just because they left their car unlocked in a public parking lot does NOT mean it is yours!

 

[Rickster]

I was about to remind you it's 2015 and we have the technology for "mobile chargers."

You planning to go full ham Zelda only, or bail out after a loss to fall back on someone less sassy

Not that playing to win in tournaments isn't respectable.

Zelda only.

Always.

Stealing is not ok. Just because they left their car unlocked in a public parking lot does NOT mean it is yours!

L
O
L

 

[Gay Ginger]

Spoiler

Turning Pit into a ring was the Chaos Kin's doing, and Palutena implies that she was showing off her strength during that fight in her reveal trailer. The powers she grants aren't special outside of the somewhat limited power of flight.

Spoiler

But do we know it was the Chaos Kin's power or if he controlled Palutena and used her power to do it?

What I was getting at is that she can summon/teleport objects and grant Pit powers while she's nowhere near his location. She can also basically nuke a monster from heaven lol. Influence like that suggests a lot of power.

In Chapter 21, Viridi mentioned Palutena being strong enough to resist the Chaos Kin for 3 years. "Palutena resisted being consumed for over 3 years. I have to hand it to her -- that takes a certain strength of will. She was waiting for you to return, Pit. I'm sure she used every last ounce of her strength to resist."

The Palutena Pit fights is severely weakened, so using that fight to say she isn't very powerful isn't fair.

 

[KarmaCastle]

Rickster I left the tourney stream on Twitch running in a tab. Looks like they're starting any minute now. Best of luck! Gonna watch the stream because I'm bored of watching replays while eating my dinner of goldfish and milk. Hope to see some Zelda.

 

[Antonykun]

Rickster I left the tourney stream on Twitch running in a tab. Looks like they're starting any minute now. Best of luck! Gonna watch the stream because I'm bored of watching replays while eating my dinner of goldfish and milk. Hope to see some Zelda.

you eat actual goldfish?!

Spoiler: Ffamran's Trigger

 

[kenniky]

Anything Palutena can do, Viridi can do better. Even her menu is better.

 

[KarmaCastle]

you eat actual goldfish?!

Goldfish are just furniture, silly.

Edit: Macchiato I wanna strangle the guy on the left. He talks with such an elitist "Yeah well, IIIIIIIIIIII was... BACK WHEN IIIII was.... Yea, that guy was SOOOO bad when I played... Yeah IIII Helped this guy...."

I want to backhand him.