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Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

Rickster

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Meh, I still think she's in the upper parts of Low tier.

@ McKnightlíght McKnightlíght @XDanDan612 Do you guys care if I played one of you after you're done/join for rotations (depending on how bad it lags, of course)?
 

McKnightlíght

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My nose is running like crazy, I think you got me sick over skype you d bag........



argh!
 

McKnightlíght

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Also, I hate how much better you are than me. Your spacing is too good. None of my moves are safe on hit........
 
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Is-is there a secret to FastFalling? Some sort of hidden technique I don't know about? With Zelda's dramatic "ASCENDING!" jump animation I find myself flicking down with my control stick 3-4 times before she actually begins FFing, which leads to a delay and me panicking about which move to use if my opponent is approaching. I also have this problem out of hit stun.

Or just trying to FF at all. I watch other players just flick it once almost immediately and I know it's invaluable as a way to get us quick ground options and fake out approaches, as well as get Zelda a bit more mobile but it feels awkward AF. Even just messing around in training I end up ripping my control stick off in the downward direction from frustration and the feeling of "lag" involved after flicking it three times.

Or maybe it's just something you get used to eventually, like SHing consistently. I'm bad at mid tier and 'advanced' SM4SH tech :drshrug:
All you have to do is hit :GCD: after you reach the apex (peak) of your jump. It can be any time after the apex, so keep that in mind.
 
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Gorl git in here rite nao. The more, the sassier.


pls excuse me attempt at a Zelda pun thing
 
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RedCap-BlueSpikes

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RIP PK thunder

Oh yeah Tuna's not viable without customs I forgot :secretkpop:
She's still my main even with customs off :mad:

I just don't like using her in lag and I usually fool around with other characters before I play her. @HunterNinjaReaperPirate can vouch for me on that last bit.

But yeah, sorry about that. The lag was straight up unbearable. We can play some other time.

Nairo took games off of Dabuz and beat Nietono and Nakat with Zelda and she's still not a high tier. Skill not character.

Palu is bad, but not Doc DDD bad
Skill is important but the characters are a really big part of the equation, too. Someone like IceNinja just plain isn't on the same skill-level as someone like Ally, yet the set they had at Summit was close and he took games off him. It's not like there's a single great player carrying the character on their back like Trela, there are a few Palutenas placing well-enough and holding their own against people out of their league.

I'm not saying Palutena is great or high-tier or anything like that. I feel she's mid-ish and undervalued because of the things I've seen and talks I've had with certain people.
 
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Unabashed moment of honesty incoming:

Rosalina makes me want to vomit.

Continue with the good discussion, fellows! (Yes, I've had a little to drink tonight...)

PS Sorry Vanilla but not sorry. Jab being a kill move is fraudulent and you should feel bad. FEEL BAD!!!111
 
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SpiralGalaxies

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I've kinda wanted to try playing Rosalina again, speaking of her. But On the other hand I kinda really don't want too.

To compromise, I'm trying out Roy again! :halfsheep:
 
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Champ Gold

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Anyone got the drunk Rosalina GIF? Perfect description of what happens when Dabuz fights Nairo
 

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damn paragon was hype as all hell lmao i can't even...
pls no sheik presence in future tourneys pls
 
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Phenomiracle

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Is-is there a secret to FastFalling? Some sort of hidden technique I don't know about? With Zelda's dramatic "ASCENDING!" jump animation I find myself flicking down with my control stick 3-4 times before she actually begins FFing, which leads to a delay and me panicking about which move to use if my opponent is approaching. I also have this problem out of hit stun.
Not all characters can FF at the same time. Depends on jump speed/floatiness as well, which are variables.

Hello, gorls. Been a long ****ing time, hope I'm not completely forgotten.
 

SBphiloz4

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I wanted to troll 3DS For Glory with random but it didn't go as well as expected. Most of the players didn't bite the bait and I lost for being bad lol

But there was this one Jason guy who legitimately wanted to be a good guy even though I was trolling him so hard. He even threw away a courtesy stock when I SD'd.
 

Antonykun

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Unabashed moment of honesty incoming:

Rosalina makes me want to vomit.

Continue with the good discussion, fellows! (Yes, I've had a little to drink tonight...)

PS Sorry Vanilla but not sorry. Jab being a kill move is fraudulent and you should feel bad. FEEL BAD!!!111
That reminds me i need to practice Swordfighter's Jab into kill move set-ups
 

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That reminds me i need to practice Swordfighter's Jab into kill move set-ups
At least it's a setup and not just the damn jab killing.

Or watching as Diddy Kong struggles to get past a jabbing Luma and forward airs.

VOMITTTT. At least Nairo fought the good fight. Real america. (I respect Dabuz as a player but Rosalina is so SILLY SOMETIMES especially when you've had a bit to drinkkkkkklsf)
 
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Antonykun

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At least it's a setup and not just the damn jab killing.

Or watching as Diddy Kong struggles to get past a jabbing Luma and forward airs.

VOMITTTT. At least Nairo fought the good fight. Real america. (I respect Dabuz as a player but Rosalina is so SILLY SOMETIMES especially when you've had a bit to drinkkkkkklsf)
I can smell the alcohol from over here and we are at entirely different countries
 

Ffamran

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Unabashed moment of honesty incoming:

Rosalina makes me want to vomit.

Continue with the good discussion, fellows! (Yes, I've had a little to drink tonight...)

PS Sorry Vanilla but not sorry. Jab being a kill move is fraudulent and you should feel bad. FEEL BAD!!!111
How do you think I feel? I switch to Ike if I know I'm fighting a Rosalina. At least Ike has moves that can challenge Rosalina and won't die as early as Falco...

Are you kidding me? Rosalina's jab 3 does 3%, has 48 base, and 80 growth. Oh, that looks fine, right? Rosalina's rapid jab finisher does 3%, has 60 base, and 150 growth - used to be 170 pre-patch 1.0.8 -, Luma's jab 3 does 4%, has 60 base, and 150 growth while rapid jab finisher does 3%, has 60 base, and 130 growth. Okay... Zelda's last part of jab also does 3%, has 35 base, and 130 growth, Triple D's rapid jab finisher does 3%, has 80 base, and 150 growth, and Bowser Jr.'s rapid jab 3 does 3%, has 60 base, and 170 growth. None of those moves killed early from what I remember. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this character?

Pre-patch 1.0.8 Falco Uair was stronger than Rosalina's. Kills later. Post-patch 1.0.8 Falco Uair is about as strong as Rosalina. Kills later. Okay... What the **** is going on? Is the game lying to us? I know that Rosalina's Uair covers much more vertical range, but it can kill 50% earlier than Falco's. Falco has to be kind of below the blast zone to boot you past, but Rosalina can be kind of below that and still kill. It's just weird looking at numbers and having them basically lie to you. Like if I see a move that does 1%, I expect that to do little knockback, but then Sheik Needle... Let's also not talk about how Rosalina and Luma can jab you together resulting in a crapton of damage.
 
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Gud games, boy! Man, that one Mii Gunner with the K.K Slider outfit is terrifying...But those matches were hella fun. It feels good to be back at smashing like before ^o^

@ Rickster Rickster

Idk if you're back, but if you still wanna play with someone, I'm here for a lil bit :p
 

Virtue

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So today I entered my first tournament in 6 months. Since it was in SoCal and a lot of people were at Paragon, I got 5th place with a combination of Zelda and Falco. A couple of my matches might be on Youtube, but that was the set where I did garbage and lost.

Also, I used the BAN•ZELDA tag during friendlies. Somebody recognized that I got it from the Zelda social since I think they are a moderator on this website.
 

Macchiato

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Gud games, boy! Man, that one Mii Gunner with the K.K Slider outfit is terrifying...But those matches were hella fun. It feels good to be back at smashing like before ^o^

@ Rickster Rickster

Idk if you're back, but if you still wanna play with someone, I'm here for a lil bit :p
GGs gorl, and you too @ Rickster Rickster

the KK Slider outfit is great K?
 

Phenomiracle

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Wow. Holy hell, welcome back! Your random absences are longer than mine! How's the world been treating you?
homieeeeeeee

Not bad, been extremely busy. Haven't touched Smash 4 since mid-August. Busy summer, between working, looking after family, starting senior year at uni, managing a consulting group with my brother-in-law.

Is this place slightly more optimistic since I left? Or are we still Zeldoomed since Brawl?
 

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At least my main isn't as filthy as Robin then :^)
Robin's isn't disjointed and it doesn't travel around.

He's also not a lamer. Whatever that is. I think I need to slw dwn with the drinks.

Is this place slightly more optimistic since I left? Or are we still Zeldoomed since Brawl?
YAR HAR HAR Zelda's still doomed sorry : (. It's about the same, our sense of humorrr is stillll here.
 
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