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FullMoon

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I don't think Shulk needs a jump to get over shurikens, but there are a lot of factors when it comes to punishing projectile usage (which frame the projectile/article comes out, how far apart are the two characters, who threw out a move first, etc) so it's best not to think it through too much. Even then, back slashing against projectile camping is only do-able if Shulk is already nearing mid-range against Greninja. Instead of camping with water shurikens at that point, just attempt to shield grab or hell try to duke it out against him (not really the safest option but it seems do-able for Greninja anyway). Just bait out the laggy attacks or throw out the down B counter. If you counter f-air or b-air or any of Shulk's attacks, it's probably going to hit. Just make sure you don't touch him when he's going to art cancel because if you counter his b-air, the landing lag will get cancelled and that's basically a free punish for Shulk at that point. You can also try to get into CQC against Shulk because well.... Shulk. Then again, it may be a bad idea against buster art since there's that chance where you may **** it up and take 50-70% damage in 3-4 seconds. Honestly, I feel like you're better off with bait and punishment since Shulk's attacks are punishable because of the end lag on his attacks

Just my ideas on dealing with Shulk as Greninja at mid-range

And also, no problem if this helps ;)
Bait and punish is basically how Greninja plays so =P

Also, upwards Substitute is pretty safe even on whiff because Greninja just goes so high. From my experience Shulk is probably the MU where Substitute is at it's most useful.

Thanks for all the info though.
 

Ffamran

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Not really

Lucina's f-smash still comes out faster and it's more "consistent" since it doesn't have a sweetspot or sourspot
But who gets more complaints? Roy which isn't really justified since he's Bizzaro Marth and people knew how early Marth's tippered Side Smash kills. Then again, if we go with that, Sonic, Link, Toon Link, Shulk, and Little Mac would count, especially on For Glory.
 

Cenizas

The Zelda We Need, But Not the One We Deserve
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>TFW Travis Willingham and Laura Bailey are coming to Vancouver tomorrow and you're gonna see them for their autographs
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>TFW they are charging $20 for an autograph... PER person
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Is anyone who voices trash waifus like Mopcina and Riselinda really worth an autograph? SMH gorl get some ****ing taste :secretkpop:
 

BJN39

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My iPad auto-corrected Shulk as "Shula"

And it corrected hitbox as hot box

Uh-huuuuh
I used to get hot box all the time too.


My IPhone has since learnT



As for Lucina's Fsmash hitting faster, a lot of people always think of hit frame one, which IS multiple frames earlier, BUT, the actual maximum horizontal range is like, only on the final two frames, which are only 1-2 frames faster than Roy's. :/ So yes, but like, it's extremely negligible.

Also Lucina will always be Fsmash.
 

Antonykun

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ok I'm working my butt of in ACNL to get a really pretty town to show off to all the gorls (@Spritzee @ Cress! Cress! @ BJN39 BJN39 @ McKnightlíght McKnightlíght @ Cenizas Cenizas ) I already got me a few hybrids and tomorrow I'll get me a few more Now i have to get the perfect town and then get the that sweet as flower clock
 
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2 or 3 months ago, my sister told me to ask you guys to do some favors for ACNL (like sharing stuff or something)

I just remembered that she asked me to do something... like... just at this very moment

Whoops
 

McKnightlíght

Getting back into the dunk game
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I made this piece of Wolf propaganda a few days ago for the miiverse stage.

Lol, this might be slightly embarrassing, but you spelled Fujin wrong :/

Just change the picture really quick and no one will notice.
 

SBphiloz4

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Is anyone who voices trash waifus like Mopcina and Riselinda really worth an autograph? SMH gorl get some ****ing taste :secretkpop:
Wow ro0d you can freely insult Mopcina and Rise but don't insult Laura Bae-ly tbh

She also doesn't voice Rise anymore either RIP
 
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It's a p hard MU, she actually does better against the top tiers, then the mid tiers ruin her.

Little mac just rushes her down on the ground. His shield pressure is great so he can ruin a defensive jigg's day. He kills her so early too. Her dash attack is her saving grace in this MU. Since it has invincibility, it'll beat all his moves and knock him offstage. If she just gets him in the air, she'll rack percent or get a stock. But it'll be hard getting it through a punish due to his great normals. Edgeguarding him is fun. It's also hard to rest due to his quick moves and if she whiffs, he'll kill her at like 30%.
Do her MU's really matter when her hat game is so on point? I mean look!

#hatgame2stronk
Getting held up on step 1.
Have you tried turning it off and on?
Wow ro0d you can freely insult Mopcina and Rise but don't insult Laura Bae-ly tbh

She also doesn't voice Rise anymore either RIP
When I see her, I'll challenge her to a $50 boxing money match!

then lose when I find out that I can't box.....
 

2004Zilla

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I fell off the bed and needed help to get up. :ohwell:

It was seriously demoralising.
Real talk: The accomplishments will feel that much better when you achieve them now at least.

That's all I can really say about since I really suck at dealing with these things :/
 
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2004Zilla

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I go on Miiverse and literally the first post that pops up is someone saying "Poopyduckbuttbass."

I...I need some time to recuperate.
 
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McKnightlíght

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Sure, if you think it's funny. I don't mind.
It was more the image of you falling but as you were doing it you sent out that sad sheep as if time were frozen xD



I watched a lot of Looney Tunes as a kid.....
 

Cress!

Keep your chin up!
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I go on Miiverse and literally the first post that pops up is someone saying "BALAHBLAHIGNORE."

I...I need some time to recuperate.
It's Miiverse, what did you expect? This is the website where just SAYING "Project M" gets you banned, but you can talk about marijuana as much as you want and not get noticed by an admin. Not even a warning. Like seriously, they need to reevaluate their rules a bit...
 
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ZombieBran

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It's Miiverse, what did you expect? This is the website where just SAYING "Project M" gets you banned, but you can talk about marijuana as much as you want and not get noticed by an admin. Not even a warning. Like seriously, they need to reevaluate their rules a bit...
No, they got it right.
P:M Zelda was nerfed after Zhime had a falling out with the team. Hence, I dislike P:M :secretkpop:

As for the marijuana
I follow Villager's lead and support more nature in our towns:4villager:
 
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LonkQ

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I like PM. I follow where the Roys are. Even Melee. Did I mention I also like to suffer?
 

ZombieBran

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I actually do like P:M.
Mostly.
Really salty that Zelda was nerfed severely even though she was far from the best.

The new announcer turns me off from it though.:4zelda:
 
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Cress!

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Speaking about Project M, I played against someone about a few months ago who claimed they were "one of the best Sheiks and had never lost against a low-tier" or something like that. (Basic gloating, it's what makes you lose!!!) So I made sure he suffered from extreme fitness. :3 He only won 1 game playing as Jigglypuff.
I talked to him again today for the first time since then and he said "Sm4sh is dumb, I moved on to PROJECT M!!!" (He shouted it really loud trying to sound intimidating or something? Idk.) But yeah, good luck being first of the 3 people that play it.

I'm guessing it was caused by Wii Fit rage. Funny because we battled during P.E., so he clearly doesn't deserve an A in that class. :secretkpop:
 
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McKnightlíght

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Speaking about Project M, I played against someone about a few months ago who claimed they were "one of the best Sheiks and had never lost against a low-tier" or something like that. (Basic gloating, it's what make stou lose!!!) So I made sure he suffered from extreme fitness. :3 He only won 1 game playing as Jigglypuff.
I talked to him again today for the first time since then and he said "Sm4sh is dumb, I moved on to PROJECT M!!!" (He shouted it really loud trying to sound intimidating or something? Idk.) But yeah, good luck being first of the 3 people that play it.

I'm guessing it was caused by Wii Fit rage. Funny because we battled during P.E., so he clearly doesn't deserve an A in that class. :secretkpop:
Hahahaha


I hope it all happened like in the middle of a dodgeball game. You guys are just playing as dodgeballs fly by your head.






I have quite a large imagination.
 

Cress!

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Hahahaha


I hope it all happened like in the middle of a dodgeball game. You guys are just playing as dodgeballs fly by your head.






I have quite a large imagination.
Basketball actually. So you were close. Sorta. Not really.
 

ZombieBran

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I never get mad when I lose to a WFT. It feels good being motivated in their victory screens:happysheep:
 

Cress!

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Okay 1 last post, but someone on Squidboards said the Inkbrush was the absolute worst weapon in the game in all 3 (soon to be 4) modes. I gave him a dose of Zelda sass.
Exsqueeeeeeese me?

http://squidboards.com/threads/my-highest-score-so-far.2468/

-->Worst weapon in the game
-->Based off of all game modes


Yeah ok let me know when you realize your mistake. Until then, this list belongs in the tr4sh with Zelda.
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I nominate to rename Squidboards to Sassboards.
 

ZombieBran

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I remembered other places exist on Smashboards besides the Zelda boards.

Found gold within minutes:secretkpop:
To be fair, I can't think of a single videogame that would so pathetically fail at a "tournament mode" in this fashion other than Smash.

Smash4 tournament mode is the type of game design failure that can only come from deliberately trying to make something bad.
 
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