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[Ffamran]

B-but I secondary yoshi

... You main, secondary, tertiary, quaternary, quinary, senary, septenary, octonary, nonary, and denary the entire cast, Macchi...

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

tfw you have a hype elevator read

TFW FARORE'S MISSES BY 1 CM AND YOU LOSE THE SET BC OF IT

BAN•ZELDA

 

[Baskerville]

I was starting to miss this.

We early 3DS now.

 

[Cress!]

I laugh whenever Macchi switches mains but then I realize I do the same thing in Splatoon oops.

 

[Darktundra]

Dear Sakurai fix f-tilt >f-smashm

tfw you have a hype elevator read

TFW FARORE'S MISSES BY 1 CM AND YOU LOSE THE SET BC OF IT

BAN•ZELDA

Solution: buff farore's wind
Sakurai translated "I would like to introduce version 1.1.2. We noticed that online and tournament players never used dins so now Zelda gains invincibility for 2 seconds during and after the move. Zelda's neutral special Nayru's loves now has a wind/hitbox that randomly attracts the opponent into the move or pushes them EXTREMELY far. Also Nayru's love is actable sooner. Farore's is now more powerful and more efficient for recovery and no helplessness after. I hope you players enjoy the changes to everyone except samus who is a strong and now balanced character. Thanks for watching.
BTW: ungrateful ****s you have one more time to leak my content. As Iwata would say "Please Understand"

 

[evmaxy54]

Dear Sakurai fix f-tilt >f-smashm


Solution: buff farore's wind
Sakurai translated "I would like to introduce version 1.1.2. We noticed that online and tournament players never used dins so now Zelda gains invincibility for 2 seconds during and after the move. Zelda's neutral special Nayru's loves now has a wind/hitbox that randomly attracts the opponent into the move or pushes them EXTREMELY far. Also Nayru's love is actable sooner. Farore's is now more powerful and more efficient for recovery and no helplessness after. I hope you players enjoy the changes to everyone except samus who is a strong and now balanced character. Thanks for watching.
BTW: ungrateful ****s you have one more time to leak my content. As Iwata would say "Please Understand"

Ths isn't Brawl Minus lol

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Farore's is now more powerful and more efficient for recovery and no helplessness after.

 

[Soul.]

how can you buff zelda

 

[BJN39]

how can you buff zelda

By making Jab do 9%

 

[Soul.]

By making Jab do 9%

nah just ban her, she's cancerous to the meta.

 

[r_greening1]

nah just ban her, she's cancerous to the meta.

Sounding like smogon smh

 

[Soul.]

Sounding like smogon smh

 

[Zylach]

He's not completely braindead anymore.

He's still kinda braindead though.

 

[Rickster]

tfw you have a hype elevator read

TFW FARORE'S MISSES BY 1 CM AND YOU LOSE THE SET BC OF IT

BAN•ZELDA

I'm waiting for the day I get a glancing blow Elevator.
Probably will be the worst feeling ever.

I also hate it when a move clanks with FW1. Whyyy must it be clankable

Re: Zelda buffs (again)
Idk how else to buff her without making something silly and/or broken.

 

[Ffamran]

I also hate it when a move clanks with FW1. Whyyy must it be clankable

The same reason why Falco's Side Smash is transcendent. Oh, I just realized that the patch never changed Captain Falcon and Ganondorf's Side Smash disjoints.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I'm waiting for the day I get a glancing blow Elevator.
Probably will be the worst feeling ever.

I also hate it when a move clanks with FW1. Whyyy must it be clankable

Re: Zelda buffs (again)
Idk how else to buff her without making something silly and/or broken.

I usually hate the clanking, but one time...
https://youtu.be/M1YijwkDlGo?t=8m8s

 

[Zylach]

I'm waiting for the day I get a glancing blow Elevator.
Probably will be the worst feeling ever.

I also hate it when a move clanks with FW1. Whyyy must it be clankable

Re: Zelda buffs (again)
Idk how else to buff her without making something silly and/or broken.

I just hate that it clanks against moves that do basically no %. I've had FW clank against Sheik's jab 1. That's insulting.

 

[Burgundy]

I'm pretty sure the commentators on the VGBootcamp stream called a Falcon's Uair string an elevator smh

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Falcon
in INPUT LAG

 

[evmaxy54]

Falcon
in INPUT LAG

Spam

 

[Darktundra]

Multi hit Nairs

Multi hit Nair landing lag (3 hits or more)
Zelda 19. 11%/7%
Bowser 24. 5%-20%
Palutena 20. 11.5%
Lucas 13. 9%
Pit/Dark Pit 24. 9%
Mewtwo 13. 12%
G&W 12. 17%
Olimar 15. 8%
Balanced

 

[smokebomb12]

You have at last mastered all of the hidden skills. Although I accepted life as the hero, I could not convey the lessons of that life to those who came after. At last, I have eased those regrets. You who have marched through countless foes, each mightier then the last... You who now gaze to the future with vision unclouded... Surely you can restore Hyrule to its stature of yore as the chosen land of the gods. ...Farwell!"
"Go and do not falter, my child!"

 

[Ffamran]

Multi hit Nairs

Multi hit Nair landing lag (3 hits or more)
Zelda 19. 11%/7%
Bowser 24. 5%-20%
Palutena 20. 11.5%
Lucas 13. 9%
Pit/Dark Pit 24. 9%
Mewtwo 13. 12%
G&W 12. 17%
Olimar 15. 8%
Balanced

Falco is so irrelevant that he's not even mentioned. ;_;

 

[evmaxy54]

Multi hit Nairs

Multi hit Nair landing lag (3 hits or more)
Zelda 19. 11%/7%
Bowser 24. 5%-20%
Palutena 20. 11.5%
Lucas 13. 9%
Pit/Dark Pit 24. 9%
Mewtwo 13. 12%
G&W 12. 17%
Olimar 15. 8%
Balanced

But can any of them combo a falling Nair into a move that kills at 80-90%?

 

[McKnightlíght]

I really like commentating and video editing. I wish I had something to record smash.

I guess I'll just stick to League for now.

 

[Soul.]

See, when a lot of people do nothing but whine and want every Smash game be like Melee, this is what happens:
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/sakurais-outlook-on-smash-is-very-dire-due-to-fan-criticisms
though the speculation community is just as bad.

 

[BJN39]

Something I hadn't thought about concerning the 1.1.0 Jab coordinate changes, is that the original only bone 0 hitbox with specified coordinates was actually set somewhat lower than the inner ones.

Now that all the hitboxes have the same vertical coordinates, the inner hitboxes are set quite a bit lower than before, and now do not whiff on short non-crouching characters at all.

Originally hits 1 and 2 would whiff on short characters and somewhat tall crouches at point blank, even though sometimes hit 3 would hit.

Test it on any short standing character, the only one with issues in Olimar at point blank, and even then he's still hit by the final hit.

 

[kenniky]

Why is Mii brawler's jab range nonexistent

Like it might have less range than Wii fit???

What

 

[Darktundra]

But can any of them combo a falling Nair into a move that kills at 80-90%?

There are no combos in Sm4sh

 

[ZombieBran]

Why is Mii brawler's jab range nonexistent

Like it might have less range than Wii fit???

It should

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Something I hadn't thought about concerning the 1.1.0 Jab coordinate changes, is that the original only bone 0 hitbox with specified coordinates was actually set somewhat lower than the inner ones.

Now that all the hitboxes have the same vertical coordinates, the inner hitboxes are set quite a bit lower than before, and now do not whiff on short non-crouching characters at all.

Originally hits 1 and 2 would whiff on short characters and somewhat tall crouches at point blank, even though sometimes hit 3 would hit.

Test it on any short standing character, the only one with issues in Olimar at point blank, and even then he's still hit by the final hit.

it figures the devil is the only one to escape

 

[Space Stranger]

It warms my non-existent heart every time I hear people complain about my main.

 

[Furret]

man I found the perfect gif for dong cyclone way too late

 

[SBphiloz4]

Let's talk about what would Zelda need to feel like a complete character in Sm4sh. REASONABLE changes. I know everyone wants no helpless state Din's or storable Phantom or being able to move horizontally immediately after Farore's Wind but let's be honest, it's probably NOT HAPPENING.

- Ftilt coming out on 3 frames earlier (coming out on frame 9 seems alright)
- Removing the Ftilt blind spot
- Make grab come out 1-2 frames earlier OR reduce grab's FAFs by 3 frames (like what happened to Palutena)
- Remove Din's Fire
- Slightly increase run speed and improve run animation
- Uair killing 3-5% earlier or something
- Increase Bthrow's kill potential by say 3-5% OR decrease Dthrow's knockback growth by a few points

The first 3 are honestly enough for me IMO but the others may not be bad changes, and seem more doable than storable Phantom haha. These changes would most definitely make Zelda an AMAZING 2nd worst character in the game!

 

[Milo AKA Papa]

Let's talk about Zelda

This is your first mistake
./oldjokes

 

[Zylach]

Let's talk about what would Zelda need to feel like a complete character in Sm4sh. REASONABLE changes. I know everyone wants no helpless state Din's or storable Phantom or being able to move horizontally immediately after Farore's Wind but let's be honest, it's probably NOT HAPPENING.

- Ftilt coming out on 3 frames earlier (coming out on frame 9 seems alright)
- Removing the Ftilt blind spot
- Make grab come out 1-2 frames earlier OR reduce grab's FAFs by 3 frames (like what happened to Palutena)
- Remove Din's Fire
- Slightly increase run speed and improve run animation
- Uair killing 3-5% earlier or something
- Increase Bthrow's kill potential by say 3-5% OR decrease Dthrow's knockback growth by a few points

The first 3 are honestly enough for me IMO but the others may not be bad changes, and seem more doable than storable Phantom haha. These changes would most definitely make Zelda an AMAZING 2nd worst character in the game!

We actually have a thread specifically for this. #Lowtiers

 

[Locke 06]

gorls. Why am I such a good cook and still single. Literally the simplest dish and it is like comfort food x 1000000000. @_@

 

[Antonykun]

gorls. Why am I such a good cook and still single. Literally the simplest dish and it is like comfort food x 1000000000. @_@

I guess you can say that yoou are a MEGAcook, man.

 

[SBphiloz4]

We actually have a thread specifically for this. #Lowtiers

Jokes on you, this is a social thread, so I can post whatever I want~

Let's talk about Zelda

This is your first mistake

 

[Rickster]

You have at last mastered all of the hidden skills. Although I accepted life as the hero, I could not convey the lessons of that life to those who came after. At last, I have eased those regrets. You who have marched through countless foes, each mightier then the last... You who now gaze to the future with vision unclouded... Surely you can restore Hyrule to its stature of yore as the chosen land of the gods. ...Farwell!"
"Go and do not falter, my child!"
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Wow, I'm playing through TP again right now and I just got the third skill. Talk about perfect timing, lol.

And nice job on the drawing! I'm OK with all the 3D Link's designs EXCEPT SS's. His face looks messed up on his ingame model. TP is my favorite because I'm boring like that.

We actually have a thread specifically for this. #Lowtiers

The problem with that thread is that nearly everyone wants to buff her Brawl Minus style.