Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[Zelkam]

I need to hide here.

There's nowhere you can hide

 

[Rizen]

Does anyone know where to find the short hop data (if that exists, which it probably does) for characters by any chance?

Aerodrome might know. I'm not at home with my bookmarks atm.

 

[smokebomb12]

There's nowhere you can hide

OH ****

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Note to self: don't ignore Smashboards for a day unless you want to catch up on 500 pages

 

[Soul.]

You mean like their jumpsquat? Isn't that on kurogane hammer

if jumpsquats are considered short hops that is; perhaps.

 

[Shrokatii]

if jumpsquats are considered short hops that is; perhaps.

I mean are you looking for like, height or the frames to short hop? I dunno

 

[kenniky]

I don't think there's a jump height repository yet.

 

[r_greening1]

if jumpsquats are considered short hops that is; perhaps.

I could've sworn he had something about the number of frames your character is in the air after a shorthop

 

[Soul.]

I mean are you looking for like, height or the frames to short hop? I dunno

Frames.

 

[kenniky]

Frames.

That's jumpsquat then. Aero has them on his site.

Pikachu's is 4 frames.

 

[Shrokatii]

Frames.

I know aeros site shows their jumpsquat frames, (which are the frames you must release the jump button) I don't know about how long they're in the air though

 

[Soul.]

That's jumpsquat then. Aero has them on his site.

Pikachu's is 4 frames.

oh. dammit **** these terms.

 

[Wintropy]

Hey, can you gorls raid the Pit board next?

Every time I breathe in there, I choke on cobwebs.

 

[kenniky]

Hey, can you gorls raid the Pit board next?

Every time I breathe in there, I choke on cobwebs.

What's the point then, if no one's there?

If anything, it'll just drag more people from there to here.

 

[Shrokatii]

Hey, can you gorls raid the Pit board next?

Every time I breathe in there, I choke on cobwebs.

What's there to raid

 

[Wintropy]

What's the point then, if no one's there?

If anything, it'll just drag more people from there to here.

That is the point.

plz it's a scurry place with a spoopy skellington man

 

[Shrokatii]

That is the point.

plz it's a scurry place with a spoopy skellington man

 

[Soul.]

i thought raids were bad

 

[Cress!]

And I somehow manage to hate Captain Falcon more than I already do. At least the people that play him.
STORY TIME!

Guy who plays Falcon beat me at a tournament today because of lol my fsmash hits behind me better than Wii Fit Trainer's. Then Halberd jank happened and he said "GGS! :D after every. single. game. Even if it was clearly not even a good game. Then after that some random group in a corner not even watching the games started talking about Falcon, so the guy rushed over there, with his dumb smile, and went "DID I INSPIRE YOU TO PLAY FALCON??? I DO HAVE THAT AFFECT ON PEIOLE. :3" Nobody over there knew what he was even taking about, but he was trying to make the guy say yes. I know not every Falcon player is like this, but every single one I meet acts snobish like this.
And how could I forget him taunting after every kill as well???

Well he's going to Grand Finals. Hope he loses.

HE'S BEGGING FOR A REDO IN GRAND FINALS.

Can he just get disqualified already?????

Oh look he won who cares.

 

[Koiba]

That is the point.

plz it's a scurry place with a spoopy skellington man

Have you seen the boards?

;___;

 

[Wintropy]

Have you seen the boards?

;___;

I tried.

2spooky4me

 

[Koiba]

I tried.

2spooky4me

I cry every time I see that character board ;_________________;

And lol no boards

boards are kinda dry

boards are apparently boring by Sprit

 

[Soul.]

The Pikachu boards are dry, yes; we try though. We try...

 

[Ffamran]

Hey, can you gorls raid the Pit board next?

Every time I breathe in there, I choke on cobwebs.

Excuse me, it's not her fault she's part spider.

Does anyone know where to find the short hop data (if that exists, which it probably does) for characters by any chance?

I don't know, but Aero has some and I think the sixriver data might too. Jumpsquat data is what frame your character actually jumps, so for Fox, his jump squat is frame 4 while Falco's is frame 6. Fox is going to jump first before Falco. In some cases, it's really bad for the heavies like Bowser whose jumpsquat is 8? and Ike whose jumpsquat is like 7 or 8. That's pretty much slower than most grabs. For Falco, it's kind of stupid when Shulk's jumpsquat doesn't change, so when Shulk's using Jump Art, he's jumping at frame 5 and higher than Falco.

How long you stay in the air is up character's fall speed, jump height, etc. I think some characters even have different short hop heights too since Falco's is fairly short even though he's a high jumper while Luigi's is high from what I remember reading. I think how long someone stays in the air for full hops and short hops have to be tested and have the frames counted. Aero hasn't updated Pikachu's yet; you're only getting jumpsquat data: http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Pikachu.

Ryu has his: http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Ryu. Ryu's jumpsquat is frame 5, short hop air time is 31 frames, and full hop air time is 43 frames.

 

[warionumbah2]

Is frame 4 the fastest jump squat?

So fast fall speed, jump squat and soft landing shows how good someones short hop game is. Me gusta!!

 

[Soul.]

4 frames is the fastest yeah
lol Pika with 2 frames of soft landing. 4 hard landing.

 

[Ffamran]

Is frame 4 the fastest jump squat?

I think so. Melee had faster jumpsquats from what I remember seeing... Nope, I'm wrong... Wow, Melee Fox's Utilt was frame 5. Thanks for changing it in Brawl and leaving it like that in Smash 4, developers. Even Brawl Fox's Bair had the same auto-cancel windows as in Smash 4.

In KoF XIII and I think even in Street Fighter, jumps are slower. Kyo's like the balanced character and his jumpsquat is 8. If you just ported Kyo over in Smash, he'd be like Ryu, but with a heavyweight's hit frames. Yeah... Smash games are actually fairly fast for certain things like jumping and jabs. Kyo's "jab" is frame 6 and it's an elbow, so Ryu's light Utilt, but twice as slow. And Ryu's Smash 4 jab which is his far jab in Street Fighter is frame 5 in USFIV instead of frame 2 in Smash 4 if I'm reading it correctly.

Source: Melee Fox: http://smashboards.com/threads/complete-fox-hitboxes-and-frame-data.285177/ and Brawl Fox: http://smashboards.com/threads/foxs-updated-frame-data.285418/. Kyo's frame data: http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Kyo_Kusanagi's_Move_Metadata, and Ryu's: http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Ultra_Street_Fighter_IV/Ryu.

 

[BJN39]

Hey, can you gorls raid the Pit board next?

Wasn't it yew hew went and chewT out Phil sis when we raided?

 

[Wintropy]

Wasn't it yew hew went and chewT out Phil sis when we raided?

Yes, because I was naive and stupid back then.

Also I was in a foul mood.

That said, if you want to dredge up old skeletons, be my guest.

Just be careful where you step, these ol' dead men tend to get hungry~ ;3

 

[Ffamran]

Heh, I found another "Kill la Kill" thanks to watching some Himouto. Thanks, @EODM07.

 

[warionumbah2]

I think so. Melee had faster jumpsquats from what I remember seeing... Nope, I'm wrong... Wow, Melee Fox's Utilt was frame 5. Thanks for changing it in Brawl and leaving it like that in Smash 4, developers. Even Brawl Fox's Bair had the same auto-cancel windows as in Smash 4.

In KoF XIII and I think even in Street Fighter, jumps are slower. Kyo's like the balanced character and his jumpsquat is 8. If you just ported Kyo over in Smash, he'd be like Ryu, but with a heavyweight's hit frames. Yeah... Smash games are actually fairly fast for certain things like jumping and jabs. Kyo's "jab" is frame 6 and it's an elbow, so Ryu's light Utilt, but twice as slow. And Ryu's Smash 4 jab which is his far jab in Street Fighter is frame 5 in USFIV instead of frame 2 in Smash 4 if I'm reading it correctly.

Source: Melee Fox: http://smashboards.com/threads/complete-fox-hitboxes-and-frame-data.285177/ and Brawl Fox: http://smashboards.com/threads/foxs-updated-frame-data.285418/. Kyo's frame data: http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Kyo_Kusanagi's_Move_Metadata, and Ryu's: http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Ultra_Street_Fighter_IV/Ryu.

Jump squat: 4 frames

Soft landing: 2 frames

Fast fall speed: 13th

 

[Lorde]

Pit would be an awful board to raid. At least suggest a relevant character board to raid.

Besides, I don't think we need to raid anyone. They were fun, but I feel that it'd feel forced if we did it again. Idk, I think that raids are a thing of the past.

 

[Cress!]

We still haven't raided Club Penguin smh

 

[FullMoon]

 

[Wintropy]

Well, it seems my attempts to create diplomatic ties between the Zelda community and others has failed utterly.

Bye-bye gorls~ :3

*Jumps into a black hole, the end*

 

[Arc_Thunder]

Have you seen the boards?

;___;

Didn't all the Dark Pit mains leave their social for the Pit social?

 

[kenniky]

been posted before

cri

 

[Nammy12]

Didn't all the Dark Pit mains leave their social for the Pit social?

Someone is using my gif in their signature.

Sweet, now I'm famous.

 

[Rickster]

And I somehow manage to hate Captain Falcon more than I already do. At least the people that play him.
STORY TIME!

Guy who plays Falcon beat me at a tournament today because of lol my fsmash hits behind me better than Wii Fit Trainer's. Then Halberd jank happened and he said "GGS! :D after every. single. game. Even if it was clearly not even a good game. Then after that some random group in a corner not even watching the games started talking about Falcon, so the guy rushed over there, with his dumb smile, and went "DID I INSPIRE YOU TO PLAY FALCON??? I DO HAVE THAT AFFECT ON PEIOLE. :3" Nobody over there knew what he was even taking about, but he was trying to make the guy say yes. I know not every Falcon player is like this, but every single one I meet acts snobish like this.
And how could I forget him taunting after every kill as well???

Well he's going to Grand Finals. Hope he loses.

HE'S BEGGING FOR A REDO IN GRAND FINALS.

Can he just get disqualified already?????

Oh look he won who cares.

This might make you feel better...

LolCosmo

We should like name that string or something to make Zelda sound cool.

 

[FullMoon]

Oh.

Also for getting 3rd in the invitational I got a subscription to Anther's Ladder and that allows me to see my win % against each character I faced during this season's run

Spoiler: The results

- 33.33% (6 matches)
- 66.67% (3 matches, if I remember right the one loss was to Tweek)
- 62.3% (61 matches
- 62.5% (8 matches)
- 100% (1 match)
- 28.57% (7 matches)
- 66.67% (6 matches)
- 100% (2 matches)
- 60% (15 matches)
- 33.33% (6 matches, I think a lot of them were against Vex though)
- 60% (10 matches)
- 61% (18 matches)
- 100% (1 match)
- 43.75% (16 matches)
- 28.57% (6 matches)
- 50% (16 matches
- 100% (5 matches)
- 80% (10 matches)
- 100% (4 matches)
- 50% (20 matches)
- 73.33% (15 matches)
- 75% (4 matches)
- 100% (1 match)
- 75% (4 matches)
- 70% (10 matches)
- 33.33% (3 matches)
- 66.67% (3 matches)
- 48.28% (29 matches)
- 30% (10 matches)
- 81.82% (11 matches, thanks to @Pacman9 lol)
- 100% (2 matches)
- 42.11% (19 matches, most losses were vs Maleficent)
- 50% (18 matches)
- 66.67% (3 matches)
- 50% (6 matches)
- 33.33% (26 matches, most losses comes from one guy who beat me like 8 times so 16 matches in total lol)
- 42.11% (19 matches)
- 80% (5 matches)
- 24% (25 matches)
- 58.62% (29 matches)
- 30.77% (13 matches)
- 68.42% (19 matches)
- 100% (3 matches)
75% (8 matches)
66.67% (3 matches)
66.67% (15 matches)
61.9% (21 matches)
69.23% (13 matches)
75% (4 matches)
50% (2 matches)
100% (3 matches)

Moral of the story: Sheik and Sonic suck. So does Olimar. I'm surprisingly incompetent against Bowser and extremely incompetent against Kirby and Diddy

Also no lol.