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[CatRaccoonBL]

Tumbler is one of those places the sun doesn't shine.
Mistranslation by some d*****bag aside, where's the gay marriage? It seems like a total cop-out to have a lesbian only be able to marry a guy.

Well Cordelia was a thing. It's probably IS trying to be silly then anything like they did with Cordelia. I really doubt there is any conversion themes going on.

Again, having bi characters is already a miracle. Baby steps baby steps. Heck, having a girl who likes girls is another good step, even if you can't marry them yourself.

 

[Soul.]

People are offended (like we as humans don't get enough offended by literally everything) that a gay girl gets drugged by the male avatar to become straight and marry him.

Where honestly that is dropping a lot of context and doesn't even describe the full story in the ever slightest.

The real issue here is a damn social justice butthurt Tumblr girl taking over the Internet with her false information.

lol, tumblr. When you see something in that website it's guaranteed to suck ***.
I honestly don't know what made the fire fight with fire.

 

[FullMoon]

I was just linked to that tumblr post and I guess I got a bit too surprised by it to remember that it was on tumblr.

At least it wasn't as bad as it was made out to be, still pretty weird though.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Hehehehe. Pizza with ramen as a topping. Large image in spoiler.

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[☆Jazz☆]

 

[Trieste SP]

It's really weird that Foleo's support is well-written yet Soleil's is kinda messy

FE:F is all over the place

As a guy who understands Japanese, I agree. Not all the characters are written very well.

 

[Ffamran]

Here, have a fried twinkie.

 

[Rizen]

Again, having bi characters is already a miracle. Baby steps baby steps. Heck, having a girl who likes girls is another good step, even if you can't marry them yourself.

It's not a miracle; other games already have same sex marriage.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/27/same-sex-marriages-unsung-hero-video-games

I see FE as a total cop-out.

 

[Koiba]

GGs @ Burgundy !

idk why you left, hopefully I wasn't too janky with Boozelina :/

 

[Burgundy]

GGS @ Koiba sorry we could only do three. I'm about to leave. That third match got laggy. :/

I don't know how to fight or D:

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

It's not a miracle; other games already have same sex marriage.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/27/same-sex-marriages-unsung-hero-video-games

I see FE as a total cop-out.

Of course I know that other games have it. I was referring to involving Nintendo who is from Japan which isn't exactly the most supportive of gays.

Having Nintendo starting to consider other people's sexuality is wonderful either way.

 

[Burgundy]

Glad that FE stuffs got cleared up. Tumblr gets a bit too extreme sometimes. :v

 

[Rizen]

Of course I know that other games have it. I was referring to involving Nintendo who is from Japan which isn't exactly the most supportive of gays.

Something about the yuri pic of the days @ EODM07 posts made me think Japan was cool with it.

 

[Kofu]

Hmm... Pizzas sound really good.

Unfortunately, where I'm at there's not any Papa John's or Little Caesar's. The only one we have here is Pizza Hut to my knowledge. Even then it's several kilometers from where I'm staying.

Over here, our food is mainly pastries. Lots of pastries.

I can't say if Pizza Hut is really the best intro to pizza tbh. I like it but it's even greasier than normal pizza which can be a turn-off.

Let me see a vid so i can thoroughly bash you. pls and ty.

Once I'm able to play again I'll do this for you. He's one of the many characters I like using on occasion.

Curious though, what all does the jab buff entail? FTilt is a kill move now, that's nice. It's an example of a tip retroactively becoming true.

 

[Trieste SP]

I can't say if Pizza Hut is really the best intro to pizza tbh. I like it but it's even greasier than normal pizza which can be a turn-off.

It's not like I have a choice.

I guess, I'll never get to taste Pizza anytime soon.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Something about the yuri pic of the days @ EODM07 posts made me think Japan was cool with it.

Well of course there would be people who do support it even in Japan. However, japan is very traditional, so it is still illegal over there unfortunately. Edit: Marriage that is.

 

[Burgundy]

Little Ceasers is my favorite pizza place. I'm tired of Papa Johns because that's all anyone ever gets. :/

 

[FullMoon]

Something about the yuri pic of the days @ EODM07 posts made me think Japan was cool with it.

Japan treats homosexuality more like just a phase that teens are going to grow out of eventually. It's part of why you very rarely see adult same-sex couples in anime and the like. Homosexuality is kinda treated like a joke there.

Hell, even Fullmetal Alchemist that's really good when it comes to portrayals of characters falls victim to it.

I do believe Japan has been more active about LGBT rights now though.

 

[Ffamran]

It's not like I have a choice.

I guess, I'll never get to taste Pizza anytime soon.

Make your own with ramen for the crust.

Or cauliflower crust pizza.

 

[Trieste SP]

Make your own with ramen for the crust.

Or cauliflower crust pizza.

First of all, I don't know where to get ramen. Second of all, I can't cook at the place where I'm staying.

 

[Rizen]

That sucks that Japan doesn't allow same sex marriages.
If you read the dialog
http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa
she clearly is lesbian and not attracted to men. My attitude is if you're going to have a lesbian don't make it so she only can marry a man. What, is she going to have a headache the next 40 years? I'm disappointed with Nintendo.

 

[warionumbah2]

Curious though, what all does the jab buff entail? FTilt is a kill move now, that's nice. It's an example of a tip retroactively becoming true.

Jab

• Covers every get up option other than the roll get up, sometimes players can get through by get up attacking since MK swings his sword in different directions.
• Deals alot of damage for a jab, fast fallers suffer the most it seems. Able to get 14% or more on Fox.
• The range is impressive.
• Walls out ground/aerial approach options, makes his neutral slightly better.
• Can hit characters under the stage, Falcon suffers the most as his hurtbox extends during his up b and it doesn't have a hitbox.
• Sets up tech chases on fast fallers.
• Can beat Lucas's PKT 2
• Can hit behind him sometimes.
• The moment MK touches the ground there's NO end lag. Its insane.

Ftilt

• Kills(Fox hates this since his horizontal resistance is garbage).
• Ftilt 1 and 2 can set up a grab or dash grab on floaty characters at mid percents, at high percents you can land a grounded shuttle loop.
• Sends people off stage...whoo

Ftilt is kinda useless now imo, jab is so much better and deals better damage. Don't listen to Shaya with the whole pivot thing, it doesn't fully connect since MK slides away. Ftilt was originally MKs jab now its lost its use. Jab has the same range as Ftilt 1 and 2(horizantally) and the final hit is basically Ftilt 3, comes out on the exact same frame as Ftilt.

 

[Kofu]

It's not like I have a choice.

I guess, I'll never get to taste Pizza anytime soon.

I was just saying that if you get Pizza Hut to know that not all pizzas are as greasy, lol.

Jab

• Covers every get up option other than the roll get up, sometimes players can get through by get up attacking since MK swings his sword in different directions.
• Deals alot of damage for a jab, fast fallers suffer the most it seems. Able to get 14% or more on Fox.
• The range is impressive.
• Walls out ground/aerial approach options, makes his neutral slightly better.
• Can hit characters under the stage, Falcon suffers the most as his hurtbox extends during his up b and it doesn't have a hitbox.
• Sets up tech chases on fast fallers.
• Can beat Lucas's PKT 2
• Can hit behind him sometimes.
• The moment MK touches the ground there's NO end lag. Its insane.

Ftilt

• Kills(Fox hates this since his horizontal resistance is garbage).
• Ftilt 1 and 2 can set up a grab or dash grab on floaty characters at mid percents, at high percents you can land a grounded shuttle loop.
• Sends people off stage...whoo

Ftilt is kinda useless now imo, jab is so much better and deals better damage. Don't listen to Shaya with the whole pivot thing, it doesn't fully connect since MK slides away. Ftilt was originally MKs jab now its lost its use. Jab has the same range as Ftilt 1 and 2(horizantally) and the final hit is basically Ftilt 3, comes out on the exact same frame as Ftilt.

Jab sounds pretty gdlk now. I saw your gif of you blocking a Lucas's PKT2 with it, it was funny. Makes me wonder why it works the way it does though and why the jab isn't cancelled. Summon @ Lavani to explain. FTilt doesn't sound awful, at least it leads into kill setups or can kill outright.

 

[Deleted member]

Little Ceasers is my favorite pizza place. I'm tired of Papa Johns because that's all anyone ever gets. :/

^ I love Little Caesars too *high fives*

 

[FullMoon]

I think pretty much everything beats Lucas's PK Thunder II.

 

[Cenizas]

Speaking of FE, I just beat Awakening. That game was a hell of a lot shorter than I had anticipated.

 

[warionumbah2]

I'm surprised his buffs are glossed over on youtube videos and smashboards, like his Nair has lower landing lag so he gains new combo's/strings.

Swordsman chars and Ryu stole the spot light, then its Charizard and Falco. No one cares about Lucas tho.

MKs like that middle child, parents spoil the youngest and put responsibility on the oldest and MK is just...there. :[

 

[FullMoon]

Out of curiosity I just went to test, even Greninja's jab beats Lucas's PK Thunder II

That's... really sad.

 

[Lavani]

Jab sounds pretty gdlk now. I saw your gif of you blocking a Lucas's PKT2 with it, it was funny. Makes me wonder why it works the way it does though and why the jab isn't cancelled. Summon @ Lavani to explain.

I would guess Lucas' PKT2 is transcendent and/or just has bad hitboxes so it just loses in those sorts of situations, but I don't have Lucas or his data so I have no idea.

 

[Jaguar360]

imo

cheese is top tier

maybe bacon. it's almost on par with cheese

then there's pepperoni

then everything else but pineapples

THEN pineapples so imo

S tier
Cheese
Bacon

A tier
Pepperoni

B tier
Everything

Zelda tier
Pineapples

You're the real pizza connoisseur here

 

[Burgundy]

Yeah Lucas's PKT2 has like no priority.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I love Lucas' PKT2 because it doesn't kill me at 5% :^)

 

[Ffamran]

I'm surprised his buffs are glossed over on youtube videos and smashboards, like his Nair has lower landing lag so he gains new combo's/strings.

Swordsman chars and Ryu stole the spot light, then its Charizard and Falco. No one cares about Lucas tho.

MKs like that middle child, parents spoil the youngest and put responsibility on the oldest and MK is just...there. :[

Or he's being ignored because people are afraid. People see Ito's Meta Knight probably believe it's just Ito's who's good or that there's some kind of gimmick or even worse: California is a free region.

Then there's misinformation and ignoring information. Remember this video?

Really? Windbox on Falco's Nair? Nothing on Ike's jab connecting better and allowing him to jab repeat better? Bowser's Utilt change, DK's cargo throw changes, and Mewtwo's Nair reduced landing lag, are enough to let them be here? If that's such such a low bar, then Zelda's stronger Up Smash and Nair change should guarantee her a spot in that video. Oh, and let's not forget how Greninja's already a threat, but a buff to his Ftilt is what makes him a "hidden boss".

Nothing against the video maker, but personally, the patch only made Charizard, Ike, Link, Marth/Lucina, and Meta Knight even stronger threats. Falco? Falco got a safer air with more reliable Nair, faster Fair and Uair, and Dair that cannot be teched if he hits you on the ground. That's it. He didn't get heat-seeking lasers for his U- and B-throw, he didn't get end lag changes to his Blaster, and his Falco Phantasm I believe actually became worse since the extra 1 frame startup might have screwed the already screwed hitbox - I think there's a blind-spot behind him now meaning the move hits mostly center with blind-spots in front and behind him. Really? No patches have altered weight, fall speed, air speed, etc., so Falco's mobility issues still stand. He's just a safer character which will alter his MUs, but not to the extent the others listed did. Falco's changes are more in line with Zelda's, really, where they function better, but not perform noticeably better than before. So, if Zelda's Ftilt was changed to be faster and deal more shield damage, that's performing better as she would have a strong shield pressure tool compared to Up Smash kills better. Well, how do you get people into her Up Smash aside from reads or punishes? Or if Falco could act out of jab 1 and/or jab 2 faster like in Brawl, that would mean he could confirm into tilts, grab, and Smashes faster. Basically, a hit confirm. Compared to Fair having significantly reduced landing lag, but still having noticeable landing lag. Now, if it auto-cancelled whenever... that would be stupid, but huge as Falco could put out slightly disjointed, lingering hitboxes whenever.

Charizard swapped kill throws between U-throw and D-throw; D-throw allows him to combo now and the ways U-throw can kill is just stupid. Never go Halberd, Delfino, or Duck Hunt against Charizard. Ike not only became safer with reduced landing lag on Nair, Uair, and Dair, reduced startup on Dash Attack, Ftilt, and Fair, but his Dash Attack kills, Ftilt is a faster, disjointed spacing tool that does a consistent 12%, Fair can hit above him now, and his jab can be repeated or linked faster. He's not just safer, but stronger and faster. Link's D-throw setting up in followups is good along with the progressive buffs to his Spin Attack, Dtilt's faster startup, and the Clawshot's hitbox actually matching the animation? Link was already good, but now he's safer and his throw game is more useful. Marth and Lucina having jab's angle change basically allows them to confirm into stupid setups like Side Smash and Dolphin Slash which for Marth is huge considering how strong tipper Side Smash is. And Meta Knight... He's like a high tier who got buffed with a safer jab, lower ending lag on Nair, and stronger Ftilt. Not game-changing, but a strong character doesn't need massive buffs. He's just more potent.

 

[warionumbah2]

****ing falco mod and his walls. I'll link you to a recent vid where the crowd was against Ito(shouting nonsense like 'punch him in the ****'),sheik camping and all that jazz.

First they love him and now they're against him, probably scared that MK is back for revenge(his victory theme triggers Brawl flashbacks). You got the crowd getting hype over Sheik doing BnB combo's, you literally have one man shouting 'go ito'.

Was cringy to watch he still won but my hate for customs boiled, Sheik should not be able to lame chars out harder than she does in default. Same goes for Sonic.

They admit MK is good, when they resort to using top tiers,camping and customs that sort of indicates some sort of fear or respect for th character. Vinnie and Mr R didn't lame out Tyrant cuz they knew they could body him aggressivly.

 

[EODM07]

Just played Terraria for about two hours now. @~@

Had some help from some friends to slay some of the new bosses. Got some really awesome equipment, now to do it on Expert mode.

 

[Ffamran]

****ing falco mod and his walls. I'll link you to a recent vid where the crowd was against Ito(shouting nonsense like 'punch him in the ****'),sheik camping and all that jazz.

First they love him and now they're against him, probably scared that MK is back for revenge(his victory theme triggers Brawl flashbacks). You got the crowd getting hype over Sheik doing BnB combo's, you literally have one man shouting 'go ito'.

Was cringy to watch he still won but my hate for customs boiled, Sheik should not be able to lame chars out harder than she does in default. Same goes for Sonic.

They admit MK is good, when they resort to using top tiers,camping and customs that sort of indicates some sort of fear or respect for th character. Vinnie and Mr R didn't lame out Tyrant cuz they knew they could body him aggressivly.

Meta Knight is literally the Melee character of Smash 4. Once you're caught by him, you are as good as dead no matter what percent. There's ZSS too, but she's held back by her atrocious grab. I wished ZSS had a regular grab just for ***** and giggles. She and Meta Knight are the only characters who can instantly kill you if they catch you with their combos. Compared to Luigi and Ness who can drop combos even on fast fallers and heavies or Sheik who can hit you over and over, but if the player doesn't know how and when to kill with her, yeah...

Main reason why people hate Meta Knight is probably because his grab is good and second to Captain Falcon, Brawl, and well, he's not exactly eye candy to look at like ZSS.

People seeing Meta Knight at high levels was cool and refreshing at first, then he goes ZSS on you, but much more easily, and consistently. That same, stupid combo kills everyone. So, we hate this little puffball now. Oh, and probably PTSD from Brawl contributes to more hatred. Still, this could happen to everyone. Remember DK? Once Kong Cyclone happened, everyone hated the hell out of DK. Diddy is hated, Little Mac is hated, Link is hated, Luigi became hated, people hate Villager, etc. Every character is hated for one reason or another in this game and it's sad since they're from beloved series, but man, does Nintendo know how to make multiplayer so hateful. Play Smash or Mario Party and people are going to be raging. Now, I can't wait for a patch that makes it so Zelda can confirm Farore's Wind whenever.

 

[r_greening1]

I like MK because he's so cute

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Awww, look at him! He's so adorable when he's mad!!

 

[Rickster]

Technically she can now but...like no one uses Zelda so....

I wonder if anyone actually hates Zelda...

 

[warionumbah2]

I like MK because he's so cute

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Look at him! He's so adorable when he's mad!!

*throws up*

 

[Koiba]

tfw you wanna main your favourite Kirby char but your too lazy and you play sh*t with him ;_________;