Zelda Franchise Discussion

[praline]

Seeing as how Sheik is her own slot and Ganondorf coming eventually I guess that means we probably aren't getting a newcomer for the Zelda series, and frankly if that means Ghirahim won't be playable then I'm all for it as he does not deserve to be playable.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Well, Toon Zelda was planned for Brawl, so she could get in as a last-minute semi-clone addition.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Neither was Greninja.

Girahim is very possible.

Apparently the rules have gone out the window now.......

 

[Mr_Anderson]

Legend of Zelda has had five reps since Melee, though. Even though they transformed, Zelda and Sheik were still two separate characters with unique movesets. They are still unique characters, now it's just they're separated from each other. So I don't think nothing really changes for a series newcomer. Same goes with people worrying about Metroid, Samus and ZSS were two distinct characters, they just shared a slot.

 

[praline]

Well, Toon Zelda was planned for Brawl, so she could get in as a last-minute semi-clone addition.

I'd rather Tetra. That way she'd be different. Vaati would be pretty cool too.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I have a proposal for a Zelda newcomer.

When I made this, Samus-Style transformations were still a thing, so this was meant to be an ultimate form of sorts for Ganondorf...

And with A Link Between Worlds fresh on the mind and A Link to the Past released on eShop, it would be an appropriate return of the King of Evil.

 

[DaDavid]

The Pig Ganon is the only acceptable Zelda newcomer for me. We need some more slow strong baddies, and though I'd be okay with Ghirahim(?) we already have a good dose of speedy strikers, and hell Greninja even kinda covers the duel-wielding so I'd be less enthused to see him in.

 

[Oz37]

I think we could wind up with 6 Mario, Zelda, and Pokémon reps. In that case, I'd personally want Toad for Mario (as unlikely as that is), and Demise is my personal pick for Zelda. In fact, there's a new and shiny support thread for Demise that should definitely get some attention... (shameless plug ends here)

 

[MagnesD3]

I want demise but thats unlikely, impa is dead thanks to shiek, so I think that zelda, shiek and ganon (and possibly tink?) being redone moveset wise will count as the newcomer.

 

[praline]

Demise doesn't deserve playability anymore than Ghirahim. They're both one off villains.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Yeah I think if there's another Zelda rep I think it's more likely to be another Toon Character
Vaati or Tetra

 

[praline]

Yeah I think if there's another Zelda rep I think it's more likely to be another Toon Character
Vaati or Tetra

Vaati seems the most likely. The game needs more villains and Vaati is the second most common villain of Zelda.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

It could be possible that we receive a revamped Ganondorf. That would sorta be like a newcomer.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Vaati seems the most likely. The game needs more villains and Vaati is the second most common villain of Zelda.

We also need Vaati because Wind Mage VS Hero of Winds

 

[fogbadge]

you know as much i love the zelda series im not bothered if there is no newcomer for them

 

[Maffewt]

I don't think any of the one-shots make sense.
It has to be either Tetra, Toon Zelda or Ganon.
Though Tetra is my first choice. More distinct character than Ganon (Pirate captain girl-child VS another magical-ish monster baddie thing), and not the clone that Toon Zelda presumably would be.

 

[N3ON]

The "No Zelda Newcomer" thread has been merged with the general Zelda series character discussion thread, as they basically cover the same topic.

 

[praline]

I don't think any of the one-shots make sense.
It has to be either Tetra, Toon Zelda or Ganon.
Though Tetra is my first choice. More distinct character than Ganon (Pirate captain girl-child VS another magical-ish monster baddie thing), and not the clone that Toon Zelda presumably would be.

Plus she's another female which is something Smash needs.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Tetra VS Sheik = Pirate VS Ninja

 

[OctiVick]

Tetra would be my first choice for a 5th or 6th(?) character and if not her Tingle is a close second. They both have an advantage of being recurring characters and they could bring something new.

 

[FalKoopa]

Thread needs more Tingle discussion.

He was pretty lucky to not meet a terrible fate like Skull Kid (heh) or Midna.

 

[OctiVick]

Thread needs more Tingle discussion.

He was pretty lucky to not meet a terrible fate like Skull Kid (heh) or Midna.

But Tetra though!

 

[DMurr]

As cool as Tetra would be, Zelda as a franchise has so much more to offer than 2 versions of Link, 3 versions of Zelda and Ganondorf.

 

[Pacack]

Want to know what I'd be more than happy to see?

Old mage Impa. She would be our first slow, light, and powerful magic user. Would be really cool to see her in this form, considering how she debuted with it and all.

 

[Scamper52596]

As cool as Tetra would be, Zelda as a franchise has so much more to offer than 2 versions of Link, 3 versions of Zelda and Ganondorf.

Yeah, but anyone unfamiliar with the Zelda franchise won't even know that Sheik and Tetra are just different versions of Zelda. Unless they look it up... Who did you have in mind?

 

[DaDavid]

Actually, yeah... Kinda strange that Tingle didn't get confirmed as returning AT considering we got 2 new Zelda AT's shown off.

Personally hope it's not indicative of anything.

 

[andimidna]

I can't have Midna, so gimme Ghirahim!

...How have I never found this thread?

 

[Pacack]

Honestly, I'd be happy with any Zelda newcomer at this point if I'm being honest.

 

[dimensionsword64]

If we get a Link Between Worlds rep, it should be Gulley Yuga.
Or maybe Ravio.

 

[Scamper52596]

Honestly, I'd be happy with any Zelda newcomer at this point if I'm being honest.

Yeah. I'm hoping that the amount of stages, items, and Assist Trophies that have been shown off aren't supposed to make up for a lack thereof...

 

[Pacack]

If we get a Link Between Worlds rep, it should be Gulley Yuga.
Or maybe Ravio.

Definitely Ravio.

Spoiler: actual spoilers

Just so we can have three Links

 

[DaDavid]

Yeah. I'm hoping that the amount of stages, items, and Assist Trophies that have been shown off aren't supposed to make up for a lack thereof...

Hadn't crossed my mind that it was a possibility but... I mean >.> makes sense now that you've planted it in my head.

 

[andimidna]

Yea, just like all of the Pokeballs make up for the lack of playable Pok-
Oh, wait.

 

[Scamper52596]

Yea, just like all of the Pokeballs make up for the lack of playable Pok-
Oh, wait.

I see your point. Thanks for giving me some more optimism.

 

[DMurr]

Yeah, but anyone unfamiliar with the Zelda franchise won't even know that Sheik and Tetra are just different versions of Zelda. Unless they look it up... Who did you have in mind?

I guess that's true. I would pick any of the one-shotters. Everyone dislikes that but hey, Sheik is in by herself now, so it's not as weird. Impa, Ghirahim, Skull Kid, (actual form) Midna are ones that stand out, but having a match up for Toon Link would be cool and the stand out is Vaati. Byrne from Spirit Track would be awesome despite not even being the main boss.

That said, if I actually did have to pick, and pick one.. It would be Ghirahim.

 

[stan423321]

Yep, Ghirahim is just one of these characters which almost don't need you to come up with their moveset. If this is what Sakurai craves, as he hinted a few times, he has pretty good chances.

Also of note, something that just crossed my mind: does Villager have an effect on Tingle? The item overuse moveset is taken, this leaves the guards mechanic, I think... and then there's Rosalina. Should read some Tingle movesets, I suppose.

 

[Maffewt]

As cool as Tetra would be, Zelda as a franchise has so much more to offer than 2 versions of Link, 3 versions of Zelda and Ganondorf.

I see where you're coming from, but for me that's one of the main reasons I like Tetra. They're all techincally distinct characters, but they're also still the main 3. It is the Legend of Zelda, to be fair. And I think different versions of the characters emphasise its different timelines, and Zelda's versatility and badassery as a character. Less so if it was Toon Zelda, but having regular Zelda, Sheik and tetra is a fantastic combo to me.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

I really want Ghirahim for many reasons. He has good move potential, is relevant to Zelda if you read between the lines, and, well, I just enjoy his personality. XD

 

[DMurr]

I see where you're coming from, but for me that's one of the main reasons I like Tetra. They're all techincally distinct characters, but they're also still the main 3. It is the Legend of Zelda, to be fair. And I think different versions of the characters emphasise its different timelines, and Zelda's versatility and badassery as a character. Less so if it was Toon Zelda, but having regular Zelda, Sheik and tetra is a fantastic combo to me.

Haha. Legend of Zelda. Keyword being Zelda. That is a good point!

I actually do really like Tetra as a character. Having her over the other characters would be completely acceptable in my book. At least initially though, (because he had so many different boss fights), Ghirahim has more to bring to the table as @ S stan423321 was saying above. That said, he is a one-off character from the worst selling Zelda game, compared to Tetra's starring role in.. what? 2-3 games? There is plenty to make with her character as a pirate in the same way that Greninja can be inspired by a ninja.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I think we all know who I support most, and still do.

Psst...It's Vaati