Wolf Matchup Export

[Chuee]

Don't go delfino against wolf, he's really good on it.
Ban Halberd or Delfino
CP Brinstar or Frigate
Strike YI, Lylat and FD

 

[Deleted member]

Don't go delfino against wolf, he's really good on it.
Ban Halberd or Delfino
CP Brinstar or Frigate
Strike YI, Lylat and FD

I mean, I think Lucas could hold his own against Wolf on Delfino. I think Battlefield would be worse for Lucas against him.

Everything else, I agree with.

 

[Chuee]

I mean, I think Lucas could hold his own against Wolf on Delfino. I think Battlefield would be worse for Lucas against him.

Everything else, I agree with.

meh, it might not be worth banning over halberd but I wouldn't say its better than bf.
Wolf has a lot of gimmicks on delfino rather than BF.

 

[Deleted member]

meh, it might not be worth banning over halberd but I wouldn't say its better than bf.
Wolf has a lot of gimmicks on delfino rather than BF.

Yeah, but a lot of Wolves consider BF to be Wolf's best neutral.

 

[MegaRobMan]

battlefield is the best stage against characters who are trying to CG us, I don't think it's really +- in this matchup.

 

[Mekos]

yall real talk...I don't even like brinstar like that. I mean there is even characters that have an easier time against us like g&w, wario, and mk.

The only cool thing imo is the prolongs smashes.
One thing I do like about it tho, is fighting when the middle part is separated. I don't know why but matches seem to be in my favor when it's like that lol.

 

[KoozyK]

back air, to back air. like off stage how do we get out of it?
is it uair?

 

[Zwei Striker]

If you are offstage and at low%, just DI farther offstage (wolf can't commit too much because of his awful recovery) and then recover with zap jump or tether or pkt2, mix it up so you won't get punished.
At high%, DI up so that he won't kill you, that move hits really strong.

 

[Deleted member]

yall real talk...I don't even like brinstar like that. I mean there is even characters that have an easier time against us like g&w, wario, and mk.

The only cool thing imo is the prolongs smashes.
One thing I do like about it tho, is fighting when the middle part is separated. I don't know why but matches seem to be in my favor when it's like that lol.

Separating the stage is actually our best bet against Wolf.

 

[MegaRobMan]

wtf do you mean AGAINST WOLF?!?!?!?

 

[Deleted member]

wtf do you mean AGAINST WOLF?!?!?!?

Do you have something more to contribute...?

Come on, Rob. >_>

 

[KoozyK]

we can tech wolfs down throw, correct?

 

[Zwei Striker]

Yes, but we happen to give him frame advantage if we tech in place (enough for him to pull dsmash, btw) after 30%. Also, according to the thread where I got this (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=294536), If we tech-roll backwards they can pull out more stuff yet, although if we tech-roll away they get less options.
This is the frame advantage WE get for teching-in-place. As you can see, we got negatives, which means frame advantage in wolfs favor.
Lucas:

0% - 0
30% - -6
140% - -12

 

[Deleted member]

How would you guys rate this MU?

 

[Zwei Striker]

Hard one. +1 or 60:40 wolfs favor imho.

 

[Chuee]

+1 wolf, no more no less

 

[Deleted member]

-1 Lucas at best.

 

[Mekos]

I agree. +1 Wolf/-1 Lucas

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

You guys so smart.

 

[Chuee]

You guys so smart.

Pink Fresh you so silly.

 

[KoozyK]

-1 lucas.
this should be enough characters

 

[Deleted member]

Get in your last thoughts on this matchup.

I'll be wrapping up this export tomorrow.

 

[MegaRobMan]

just make sure that stupid down-b thing doesn't hit you when he's flying half-way across the screen.

 

[PMC66]

The only major setback lucas has is the grab release gayness on him and that he has no priority.
Again I feel its +1 in our favor or even.

thank you i needed a good laugh for the rest of the week.

 

[Mekos]

lololol no prob

 

[Deleted member]

Alright. I finished wrapping up this export and we'll move on to voting for the next.

Requesting lock.