Wolf Combo Thread! (Testers would be nice, btw...)

[JCav]

@ gull

i jab>grab all the time but on a few rare occasions ive been jabbed out of it, idk its still good

 

[SelfPossessed]

I'd like to once more draw attention to FH Bair followups to launchers.

Say you launch the opponent with Fair/FF Uair/Dash Attack/Dair/Usmash/Utilt/Throw/whatever. If their only option to avoid the incoming FH Bair is an airdodge, then you technically have a combo with a second aerial (Bair/Uair) that hits them during the airdodge's ending lag.

The best part about this is that with airspeed + Bair range, you can chase DI on reaction, make it a non issue.

I'm not sure what characters this works on (weight/moveset), what percents, or how staleness affects your frame advantage after the launch.

EDIT: It seems that only FF Uair gives you enough frame advantage for this to work. I did not check for stale moves though, which might give the other launchers just enough frame advantage.

 

[Seagull Joe]

I guess I should say most combos I posted were around 20-70% combos. Not at 0%....

 

[xX'Mitsurugi'Xx]

Wolfs d-tilt locks most characters against any wall from 17%-55% (they go into a hitstuned air tumble that cannot be teched) on the last d-tilt you can land an up smash or d-smash, it works very well on those annoying cp's such as; RC, FO, DP and PS1, I've used it many times in tourney, it works well and cannot be punished if performed correctly, best of all, it works on metaknight and since the d-tilt very slightly out ranges the meta f-tilt, it's a good punishing tool.

Edit: Upon further testing I've noticed that the lock goes to much higher %'s than 55% as to where the lock actually ends I do not know.

 

[Ishiey]

Wow, I completely forgot about this... again .__.

Very good point with the dtilt lock Misturugi, I should definitely put that in. I'll test it with stale moves to make sure the %s are correct but they seem legit. Never thought about the usmash/dsmash though, nice.

Simiarly, stale dthrow can cg against a wall at low/mid %s (I remember people debunking this a long time ago but I swear it works, at least against Wario). I'll test that when confirming dtilt lock, probably on Monday.

Hooray for walls

 

[Semifer]

Seagull, none of those worked in training mode against the CPU, but I'm pretty sure that training mode is on drugs because it didn't say fair > utilt was a combo, but when I asked my friend to try and airdodge out he was unable to. When I have someone around for testing, I'll test all of them out. By smash to the ground, I'm assuming you mean miss a tech, right?

Also, I think that dthrow > buffered dtilt might somehow be a combo, idk. I was trying it on a cpu Ike in training mode and although it didn't come out as a combo, I found that when the dtilt was buffered perfectly he always tripped (he started at 4%). I need to test this with a friend as well, maybe dthrow stun is based off of weight class, or maybe dtilt trips 100% when the opponent is in a landing animation, idk...

Did you already try to jump after the Fair?
And I'm not sure with the dthrow > Dtilt combo. I know that at 0% you and your opponent can react at about the same time after a Dthrow (and ZSS can jab you before you can shield).

 

[ArcPoint]

I knew you were at a frame disadvantage. ****.

 

[Ishiey]

The frame disadvantage is only at low %s, trust me ;D

And for fair, it doesn't work in training mode but works otherwise... I still need to test that out some more, but unfortunately I'm busy today. Yay homework