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Goldenadept

Goldenadept

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sadly i came into the chat after he had left :(

i remember getting destroyed by his jiggs a lot like a year ago, those were the days
i'm itching to lose to that jiggs again turtle!
 
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Isn't it your own fault to get ***** by Turtle though? Like, if you all wanna be carbon-copies of JJ's technical style for some reason it's no wonder the guy who played with him all the time knows his stuff. No reason in aiming to become as good as JJ - I wanna become way better on my own.

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castorpollux

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Gheb_01 said:
Isn't it your own fault to get ***** by Turtle though? Like, if you all wanna be carbon-copies of JJ's technical style for some reason it's no wonder the guy who played with him all the time knows his stuff. No reason in aiming to become as good as JJ - I wanna become way better on my own.

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this is the right attitude.


however, turtle will still slay wolfs who don't play like me
 
NAKAT

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Auspher said:
Seriously, I've never gotten more entertainment from a Brawl vid. JCav is legit.

And yeah, Fox is mad overrated. I'm hoping Espy and Choice think so too and shoot him back down below our superior furry. :3

Adept, you have mad patience with the tier list thread, lol. I only think Nakat is going after you because he was already stressed with Seagull's argument.
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I wasn't stressed at all nor going after anyone. I respect seagull's opinion as I was stating my own. I just hate watching idiots post false information or try to down me in the bbr discussion without really knowing a god damn thing lol.
Seagull Man said:
Ok seriously Golden, I think most people know who Nakat is. He's been ranked in Nj and has consistent impressive results. He always gets top 8 or 9th at worst as of recently. I like his Fox and can tell he puts lots of work into his character.
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Goldenadept said:
I'm a troll, i just don't like trolling wolfs (unless its you :awesome:), a little bit of it came out in there because i hate ppl who act better than they are. i know Nakat is good and that he'd 3 stock me over and over but he's not THAT good lol.

i really just think fox is a boring character when compared to wolf, that's why i don't use him.

random note, i managed to naner lock my friend today with diddy :3 it was fun
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stop bringing me up, real talk you should stop talking because you sound ridiculous. You are just one of those randoms who gives one person credit for a characters performance when there are players like me and Zeton out there that also put in work. You don't even know how good I am lol you never played me either so stop talking you sound like a real ******.
Seagull Man said:
Ok seriously Golden, I think most people know who Nakat is. He's been ranked in Nj and has consistent impressive results. He always gets top 8 or 9th at worst as of recently. I like his Fox and can tell he puts lots of work into his character.
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Ishiey

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Gheb_01 said:
Isn't it your own fault to get ***** by Turtle though? Like, if you all wanna be carbon-copies of JJ's technical style for some reason it's no wonder the guy who played with him all the time knows his stuff. No reason in aiming to become as good as JJ - I wanna become way better on my own.

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This. It's a lie that all Wolf players have the same style though, from what I've been told Seagull and I have pretty different styles somehow, so yeah *shrug*

Also, hi Nakat, what's up? I had a feeling you'd end up namesearching in here lol. I'm pretty sad that Japes and Norfair got taken off the KTAR 4 stage list btw, I was looking forward to having real counterpick stages :<

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Seagull Joe

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We can't have the same styles because my name starts with a J and yours starts with an A. Me and Choice play like carbon copies.
 
satowolf

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My wofl likes to howl everytime the crowd chants. :awesome:
Then I lose a stock :urg:

Oh, Hi Ishie :3
 
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Random advice for people that are into the concept of baiting and punishing [I believe Ether and AC might find this particularly interesting]:

If the opponent is falling to the ground and he already used his last jump, he has 3 options:
- Airdodge
- Attack
- Land [+follow-up]

If the opponent airdodges you can DACUS him on reaction.
If the opponent attacks cancel your dash with shield [usually aerials like this are poorly spaced because your dash works against it and you can punish on block with fair].
If the opponent chooses to just land you can continue to dash and cross-up pivot grab him on reaction if he shields, stands or spotdodges [and often even when he attacks].
If the opponent rolls away you can keep on chasing him with the dash and grab him.

The reason why this is so powerful and effective is because you cover lots of options with very simple tools:
- All moves used can be done out of a dash
- All moves used keep the opponent in a bad position [fair, usmash and any throw you like]
- You can punish all his options on reaction except the roll away, which makes it the only options you have to predict. This makes it essentially a 50/50 gamble with very little risk and high reward.

Another reason why this works so well is Wolf's DACUS. Due to the sheer amount of ground it covers it can punish airdodges on reaction from far away making that option really easy to cover. The direct counter to this scenario for the opponent is to roll towards you upon landing, which is still risky and readable.

This sounds awfully theoretical but in fact it's neither hard to understand nor to make use of. I've actually executed it in battle before I managed to even grasp the concept behind it and I think it could improve Wolf's already incredible bait and punish game even further.

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Seagull Joe

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If a Wolf vs'd a Fox in a real fight then I think Wolf would win.

Both might lose to a Falcon though. Dat aerial swoopness.
 
Goldenadept

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i think Nakat likes me O_O he followed me here just to talk to wolfs and call me nice names like "******" ;D

watsa mattah, scar- in love?
*kicks foot around*
 
Goldenadept

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how would a fox ever beat a wolf irl? o_O
i think a wolf pup would beat up a fox in most circumstances xD foxes just follow wolves where ever they go and eat their left overs

artic foxes that is, the foxes round my place just sit in trees and watch you through your window at night
they take after me
 
Goldenadept

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when i was a kid my dog used to bounce on the trapoline with me, he wasnt a wolf though :( burmese mountain dog xD he was so fluffy <3
 
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I don't ride hype trains, at least in public. I think Fox is about where he should be on the tier list, maybe a couple of spots off but that's unimportant. What's important is that I'm only stating facts and that his tier list placing should not be your concern to begin with. Fox players have stepped it up and improved tourney results. Instead of complaining you should attempt to do the same.

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KRDsonic

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Gheb_01 said:
I don't ride hype trains, at least in public. I think Fox is about where he should be on the tier list, maybe a couple of spots off but that's unimportant. What's important is that I'm only stating facts and that his tier list placing should not be your concern to begin with. Fox players have stepped it up and improved tourney results. Instead of complaining you should attempt to do the same.

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You're the one who told me that a tier list should be solely based on MUs, not tournament results.

I'm sorry, but Fox shouldn't be that high. R.O.B. and Peach are probably better characters than him, and I'm pretty sure Wolf is a better character than those two.
 
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I said an ideal tier list needs nothing more than match-up as its basis. That would require us to know every match-up though which is pretty much an impossibility. And since when I'm the highest authority on that matter? It's not like me saying something will make everybody agree.

Either way Fox is clearly better than Peach and ROB, who are both pretty awful. It's not an accomplishment to be better than them [yes, Wolf is too].

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