With a new console, comes a new Smash game...

[Falconv1.0]

I dislike MvC2 and Naruto fighting games but I don't call people idiots for trying to get good in those games for the communities they exist with.

I only dislike people if they themselves are tools, not for the choices they make on what to play for a competitive video game or wanting to get good in.

I don't understand all the effort needed for some games mostly MMORPGs and such but I wouldn't undermine what effort those people make to get better in what they play.

I feel like you missed my point entirely and got offended at something.

My posts have been directed wondering if they'll make it "more competitive", and the op's mentioning of the word "hardcore". I have nothing against competitive players, I myself plan on trying to go pro for TF2, maybe actually make some money off that ****. That takes like 10 hours of practice a day, 5-6 days a week, I'm not "undermining" anyone's effort.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Well Smash never was, we made it that way and the developers have some concept of balance otherwise this game would have failed a while ago.

 

[*JuriHan*]

whether or not Nintendo truly un****s themselves and makes the new Smash game like Smash64 or Melee really is the determining factor if I get the new console. I pretty much only have time for pick-me-up-and-play games, so basically fighters. Would like to have more balance, a Jigglypuff that is actually viable and not outclassed by 5 different characters, legit hit stun- you know.. COMBOS. Not a camp fest.

Im curious to if Nintendo will still use kiddie's first online with friend codes. If they still do that **** all in the name of "safety" im going to lol severely.

I will admit, its going to take a lot from nintendo to get me into them again after the continous excrement they produced for the past few years. I won't lie but the entire Wii generation and Brawl has almost made me ashamed to purchase, play or own any modern nintendo product. They did turn their backs on their devoted fans for money, I have mixed feelings of giving them another chance. I am very happy with microsoft's xbox now. Their handhelds still top notch though, I'm waiting for 3ds lite with good battery and more compact.

 

[Falconv1.0]

I pretty much only have time for pick-me-up-and-play games, so basically fighters.

Fighters generally require someone to play with and a good amount of devoted time to actually do decent at, and it's much easier to find a good game with most shooters than say, Smash, but 'fighters' are pick up and play games?

You sure?

 

[Teran]

They did turn their backs on their devoted fans for money, I have mixed feelings of giving them another chance.

That's because their devoted fans are *******s. Every time Nintendo tried something new with their famous franchises, they'd all be up in arms (Wind Waker comes to mind). Nintendo then proceeded to slap them in the mouth but yeah I dunno, the GC in a lot of ways tried hard to cater to their devoted fans (its exclusives were great imo), but it didn't really make that much money.

Devoted fans do nothing but complain and cry and think they have the answer to everything. For starters, they've already started ruining Zelda with constant Adult Link incarnations. Boy hero is a million times a superior concept to another young adult computer game protagonist. The boy hero portrays a level of wits and skill that Link needs to overcome things. Adult Link is just some grown up swordsman, it's not as impressive.

It's not even traditional, but apparently OoT is the first Zelda.

But before I go on a huge rant about how devoted fans of everything ruin them eventually...

To me it's just like **** the fans, get that money, and then if you want to gamble on them again, at least your pockets are stuffed with Wii money.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

The more you focus on a specific group like devoted fans, the more you alienate everyone else thus making the game harder to bring in new gamers to buy the game.

 

[Tesh]

Nintendo is doing a great job. Would people really prefer a company that catered to a small market and then went out of business? Then you DEFINITELY wouldn't get smash bros 4 the way you like it.

 

[Big-Cat]

Fighters generally require someone to play with and a good amount of devoted time to actually do decent at, and it's much easier to find a good game with most shooters than say, Smash, but 'fighters' are pick up and play games?

You sure?

What I think she's getting at is that you can spend a little time in training mode gradually to get a feel for the game and then go online or whatever. And later on, it's very nice when you just want to get a couple of matches in and then stop.

 

[*JuriHan*]

Fighters generally require someone to play with and a good amount of devoted time to actually do decent at, and it's much easier to find a good game with most shooters than say, Smash, but 'fighters' are pick up and play games?

You sure?

I mean like, as opposed to a game like The Elder Scrolls Oblivion. I can play it per say but let's be real I'm never going to do everything in that game.

For devoted fans, I just mean having games that aren't gimmicks. That have substance. I'm pretty sure ANYONE would appreciate those.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I am not sure how well I would believe some of these rumors. I mean, having a 6 inch screen on a controller is pretty interesting rumor, but how well would it be used practically versus the price of producing such a thing.

Nintendo has always been good at staying ahead of the market or in it by introducing interesting ideas. Motion controls is completely gimmicky, and I think the market's last 5 years sort of proves this. The sort of games that you get from motion control often ruin a game and it suitable for only a few situations. The main market for motion controls is the casual part which was untapped until nintendo showed up. However, there was always that hardcore crowd where video games really started, and majority of 3rd party developers prefer to make those kind of games. Nintendo has certainly learned its lesson, I believe, and will try to find a balance between the hardcore and casual audience.

Anyway, the next generation I expect would contain improved graphics. Playing games on something that does not feel new or upto date would not sell very well. This is the minimum I am willing to believe for next generation console from nintendo. The controls I expect should be a healthy balance between motion controls and regular. Nintendo seems to have experimented with that with the classic controller option, and they have 5 years worth of experience from the motion control.

tl;dr I expect the next smash game would run on higher graphics and suitable control scheme.

Now, if another smash game does come around, I think it would switch hands or would be a combined project between a number of developers. There seemed to be little interest to make another smash game. But, if another one does who up, it should probably be only in the discussion stages right now. Either way, it is still really early to think another one might be coming up.

 

[*JuriHan*]

Nintendo has certainly learned its lesson, I believe, and will try to find a balance between the hardcore and casual audience.

Well said right here. It's all about finding balance between the two groups. It's never good to favor one over the other which is exactly what Nintendo did during the generation of the Wii.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I remember a friend of mine's reaction once.

OMG YOU CAN'T DIE IN EPIC YARN IT SUX

Despite the fact that Kirby games aren't meant to be particularly hard, they're meant to be thoroughly enjoyable.

And Epic Yarn indeed was.

I do enjoy my games hard, but if the gameplay is great I'm still happy.

But I'm a very easily pleased person.

People might say Epic Yarn was a gimmick, but I think the level of work that went in was admirable, and I would play it again.