- Aug 3, 2014
Oh trust me they do try, Guess they must be frame perfect off the first initial grab in which many hasn't grasp.
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That term just irks me, it writes off anything the person says as irrelevant as if they don't know what they are talking about because they are a "kid". Which...is something I'm far from as I'm older than most in the smash scene.First, I want to come off saying that I HOPE your not offended because I laughed at your years in the game, lmaooo. Im laughing because of how serious you took the initial word "kid" and told me a quick bakcground of your smash legacy in which I care nothing about.
Secondly, your points are correct in which Im wrong upon knowing that they cant get out from the dashing frame. I see people mash still at that time however, but they don't get out. I don't understand what they're doing wrong.
Im in New York, and sometimes go to events in NJ. I have players Like Vanz, Frozen, Gallo, Gurukid, Darkblues, and more names I cant think of off the top, but I used to do well at the venue "Nebulous" if your familiar with it.
A lot of ICs grab combos, including D-throw>D-air are pretty character dependent. If you're having trouble with D-throw>D-air, I suggest practicing on Captain Falcon, because his weight, fall speed, and tall hurtbox, make the timing fairly lenient. Another basic grab option is handoffs, so I would recommend practicing those. There are some other situational grab combos, but those are some of the most common.Hey guys, i'm interested in picking up the ICs. I know their two most commonly used desyncs (Spotdodge/Roll desyncs). The issue is, i don't know how to do any of their grab shenanigans (other than down throw > Nana Forward smash). Any tips or info you guys can give to get me started on some chain grabs etc? I also need help on timing D-throw>Dair. Thanks guys!
Alright cool. Just for clarification, do i have to position nana a certain way before the Dair? Shorthop/Fullhop? etc?A lot of ICs grab combos, including D-throw>D-air are pretty character dependent. If you're having trouble with D-throw>D-air, I suggest practicing on Captain Falcon, because his weight, fall speed, and tall hurtbox, make the timing fairly lenient. Another basic grab option is handoffs, so I would recommend practicing those. There are some other situational grab combos, but those are some of the most common.
Yo. It really was thanks to Samus, wasn't it?Thanks alot b. So lets talk matchups, I lost A MM all because he used Samus. How can I beat out her projecttiles? I know Ice blocks clash but what other tools help?
Turning around from a standing state causes them to slide, which causes a lot of spacing problems, as well as sliding off the stage. There are also some issues with Nana sometimes doing inputs when far away or simply recovering poorly. I would say stay away from ICs until 3.6 drops, but I have no idea when that will be, so I'll just suggest you play them for yourself and try other characters if you find yourself not enjoying ICs.I'd really like to get into ICs for PM, but I'm afraid there's some kind of stupid bug (or multiple bugs) that has an effect on gameplay. Anyone know what the bug is exactly? I'm pretty sure people stay away from ICs because of this, and I'm afraid to admit this scare has also turned me off from ICs for awhile.
Hey Bubba how'd you get here lmao! And yes I think Samus altered our set dramatically. However i'm not discrediting your win just because you went Samus, we had close games with all characters.Yo. It really was thanks to Samus, wasn't it?
I believe desynched Ice Blocks do pretty well. Can you not hit the missiles with standing moves (I have no idea if ICs can but other chars, like Marth, can just jab or tilt them). What Hylian said is pretty true. I believe ICs can punish ftilt on shield with WD OoS jab > grab. Baiting me into ftilts and punishing whiffed or blocked ones is pretty important. Also, if you manage to force me to misspace an ftilt, you can CC dsmash/grab me up to mid %'s. I think Wobbles believed the MU was even in Melee, but I really think Samus has the advantage here.
Man i've came so far since this post!! Almost 2 years ago and now im widely considered as the best IC's in PM.I know IC's isin't used as much, but the IC boards are so dead. I really wish people put more time into IC's as far as more active skype chats and videos. I've decided to use IC's fulltime in PM since they are untapped and have plenty potential.
Spot dodge desync to blizzard opens up alot of options especially grabs, and desyncing is a big reason why I plan to use IC's heavily. Lets bring some life onto the IC PM boards and mastermind on tools to use that can bring them up in sight, since many players sleep on our character.
Here's my skype as I would love to connect with others who feel the same: phresh123.