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I know in Melee, a lot of IC's like to pressure with short hop auto cancel up airs. I really like well spaced short hop bairs, personally. Even synced blizzard can do around 35% if you catch them crouch canceling. I mostly just move back and forth with wavedashes and try to bait out a move from my opponent to punish with a grab.
There's some interesting stuff in here, but some of it like "Pivot Ledge-Snapping" only works because of a bug that's set to be removed with the next update. It's cool that you took the time to make that post, and maybe I'll experiment with the spawn platform thing. I'm not sure how useful it is, but if it's possible to stagger the invincibility of Popo and Nana it could have some interesting applications.
Actually, this is just a long range hand off and it's only doable because of a glitch that is being taken out in 3.6. So basically, it's not worth practicing, but you'll at least keep your combo going if you happen to do it again on accident. This is done by holding up before Nana grabs midstage, or holding left/right when she's near the ledge.
I've been grinding away recently and neglecting Wario, and let me tell yah, something just clicked. Suddenly I can get 4-6 handoffs without issue on a majority of the cast. I find I need to "test" their weight the first time I do a grab, when I might miss the handoff, but after that I know I need to speed it up or slow it down. I feel like a good "Standard" is on Marth, who to me is one of the easiest to handoff. I wonder if I can get away with "testing" their weight during a button test, like if I do it slyly, pretending that I was "done" with the button test and just started fighting them. Hmmm...
I was actually trying to use the glitch to do simple handoffs, but I messed up and improvised. The result is me trying to play it off as though I meant to do that.
Not really a glitch. I was able to hit Falcon with the F-air spike (the spike hitbox is at the hilt of the hammer) almost immediately after the D-throw. I've seen players do ledge handoffs into F-air spikes before, but usually they have to jump off the stage and try to react to the opponents DI. Since I had a grab where Falcon wasn't really on the stage, I was able to run off and F-air with Nana, while not giving Falcon a chance to DI away. I'm going to practice so I can do this more consistently when I get a grab near a ledge, as it seems to be the best way to land the spike on an opponent if you can get a grab close enough to ledge for handoffs.Was the second video a gltich for Nana to spike Falcon @941 ?
I've done this before but by accident. If this is legit just input then I would love to learn how it's done.
I suppose that's probably more forgiving if you mess it up. If you can secure the KO, running off the stage and spiking with Nana is just as effective, and I was able to save Nana, so there isn't much difference in that sense.
Yeah honestly, tier lists are all over the place in this game, and the meta is so underdeveloped that no one can say anything yet. Play who's cool to you, play who you do well with.
Technically, yes it can be done, but it's very difficult and only works because of a bug that is said to be removed in 3.6.
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