Why 3.5 is bad for squirtle (+additional discussion)

[Daftatt]

after a lot of time in the lab and playing 3.5 whatnot. I am now convinced that squirtle's recovery is superior in 3.5 relative to the cast, with the true nerf not being aquajet but the wallcling change. That aside, his recovery is better specifically due to the new withdraw quick ledge-grab.

Speaking of recovery, I hope yall are shooting watergun at the opponent when they try and edgeguard you. It's the truth.

 

[Thetoymaker787]

You do realize it's like 10x harder to land a killing up smash than to land a simple dtilt/dsmash/utilt into AJ? It gives Squirtle a reliable kill option outside of catching your opponent off guard or punishing mistakes with up smash.

Not if you can slide. I think it's harder to get close and use aj.

Leastways, no all the chars are not the same. But not everyone has to drop and recover the same way (minus like foxes over b) and then recover up which is very predictable.

 

[Zwarm]

Not if you can slide. I think it's harder to get close and use aj.

Leastways, no all the chars are not the same. But not everyone has to drop and recover the same way (minus like foxes over b) and then recover up which is very predictable.

You gotta practice using new AJ more then. It's an amazing and reliable kill option in the air, and actually has combos into itself unlike up smash, which only has combos on fast fallers

 

[Thetoymaker787]

You gotta practice using new AJ more then. It's an amazing and reliable kill option in the air, and actually has combos into itself unlike up smash, which only has combos on fast fallers

Yeah I guess. But it does take a lot more work to make it hit because of the small hurtbox and how you have to be right on top of their head... Makes me feel like like I'm trying to play jigglypuff