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AvariceX

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I'll try to make it to this. I'll bring a full setup for Melee and maybe for Brawl if I can get my Wii working. I'll enter Melee, but Brawl looks unlikely if my Wii keeps failing. Also, count me in for staff if you're underhanded and need some help (I've got a fair bit of experience, and I know tio pretty well). Also, can I suggest banning Green Greens for Melee? It's an absurd stage that puts players through some crap that I don't think they should have to deal with. Just a suggestion.

I'm looking forward to this. :)
Good to see more interest building up for this.

I'm going to let Zen handle the Melee ruleset so talk to him if you think something should be changed.
 

Sachertorte

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There's a good chance I'll be coming to this tourney.

I WILL be able to supply a complete Brawl set up. Tv, Wii, and Brawl. I'll bring power bars for the tourney as well.

I'll probably be playing Melee and Brawl.

(Edited for more updated information)
 

Xelyst

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Green Green's is now banned. Wobbling is banned.

Edit: They were going to be banned anyway rly...

needz moar hype/montreal

where u at max?
 

AvariceX

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Just posted some updates to the original post. Also Ben tell you're brother I want to team with him in Brawl Doubles for this (and the Montreal tourney if he comes) and rep team shoryuken.
 

G U R U

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Ryan, me and Art were talking and we really think we shouldn't take the venue money out of the pot. Just charge and extra $5. If we get 50 people, that's 250 right there and that's seems to be a low estimate at this point. We might get 100+ people for this who knows. As long as the wheels or the other club place doesn't cost more than $500 we should be good. Cus I'm pretty sure that taking $500 out of the pot would not be a good idea.
 

Xelyst

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The way he set it up was that depending on the ammount of players registerd for an event, that would equal the % of $ taken out of the pot *for that event* towards the venue fee. (From what i understand lol)

Ryan: Either way a raw number of $xxx dollars will have to be paid and i just mentioned today that the more reasonable thing to do is promote a venue fee. Good pot size = Good players = Good Hype = Good Attendance = Good Tournament.

MORE SETUPS GO GO GO!!! I'm going to compile a list in the coming months and personally msg everyone to confirm thier setups.
 

AvariceX

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Ryan, me and Art were talking and we really think we shouldn't take the venue money out of the pot. Just charge and extra $5. If we get 50 people, that's 250 right there and that's seems to be a low estimate at this point. We might get 100+ people for this who knows. As long as the wheels or the other club place doesn't cost more than $500 we should be good. Cus I'm pretty sure that taking $500 out of the pot would not be a good idea.

The way he set it up was that depending on the ammount of players registerd for an event, that would equal the % of $ taken out of the pot *for that event* towards the venue fee. (From what i understand lol)

Ryan: Either way a raw number of $xxx dollars will have to be paid and i just mentioned today that the more reasonable thing to do is promote a venue fee.

MORE SETUPS GO GO GO!!! I'm going to compile a list in the coming months and personally msg everyone to confirm thier setups.
Actually from what I've been hearing, the Wheels actually costs a boatload of money to rent, so we may need to reconsider this option. There are advantages and disadvantages to both venue fee structures. The advantage to taking a % out of the pot is you know you will pay off the exact venue costs; with the obvious disadvantage being the prize pool for a small tourney would get *****. I don't intend for this to be a small tourney.

I'm not saying I'm not open to suggestions, but you also have to look at both sides of the flat venue fee. Like you said the big advantage is that we don't **** the pot if it's a small tourney. There's a few disadvantages though: first is that if it's a big tourney then there's a good chance there would be extra left over and I would feel like a douche making profit on this (obvious solution is put the profit back in the prize pool).

The next disadvantage is now matter how you look at it, a flat venue fee also hurts the prize pool. Say we charge a flat $5; then do we lower the tourney entry to $10 to keep the total entry fee in line with other tourneys? If we do then we've just knocked $5 per person out of the prize pool, which could actually lower interest from the players looking to win the tournament. If on the other hand we don't lower the entry fee to compensate for the venue fee (making the total entry $20) then we may lose interest from the more casual players who are looking for a fun tourney and not worried about winning money because now it's too expensive. I'm not kidding, I know it's dumb but it has happened before (someone who remembers LBT can vouch for this). The LBT total entry was originally $20, and the thread got flooded with people posting that they wouldn't come unless it was lowered to a standard entry fee. Honestly, $5 is nothing; it's less than those people would be paying for gas anyway; but that's just the way people are.

Good pot size = Good players = Good Hype = Good Attendance = Good Tournament.
C'mon now, we already have me, Ally and RaynEX for hype (we just need some good players now). We can get a good pot size regardless of the venue fee structure, and the venue fee isn't set in stone, I'm just making sure everyone sees both sides of the coin on it.

@Grmo: June != July
XD
 

Xelyst

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ryan: prize pool will get ***** if you do not charge a fee. if you feel guilty about making a profit then i'll forgive you my child lulz and we can pool the money towards the pots. instead of ****** 4 prize pools becuase of the venue charge, charge a fee and make each prize pool bigger then intended. da pots will not get ***** son, just charge a raw fee and leave the em alone, then throw the remaining fee profit back into the 4 prize pools the same way you were going to take money out.

and yes if anyone really does see a serious problem or concern, you can pm me and i would gladly like to hear your input. untill then eveyone has ... -- 3 1/2 -- months to save $5 extra dollars (which in terms of tournament travel is not anything to make you reconsider coming to play) .... omg win your local budokai tournament lolz.. wuts a shoryukonn?

either way its still avx's call i guess
 

AvariceX

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Ya seriously. People who qq over 5 dollars are pretty sad.
I totally agree, but like I said I have seen it happen. I'm considering changing the venue fee structure to a flat fee, and I'm working out some numbers right now. Unfortunately the numbers are pretty arbitrary since we don't know what the actual venue costs will be. Hopefully I'll have that info this weekend.
 

Boomy

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I can most likely make it. Dont know anyone going but hey, gotta start somewhere...

heres my info:

Lokon (pronounced Lock-On)
Brawl
Windsor
Serious Consideration

Also if needed i can supply 2 T.V's , 1 Wii + 1 Copy of Brawl, aswell as 1 Copy of Melee....AND (if you want) an n64 + Smash bros (just for some fun on the side).
I don't know about the rest of you, but I like the idea of SSB64.
 

Santana

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I'll be a maybe (most likely) for Melee. I can bring a setup (TV/Melee/Cube) if you guys are starved for them.

[from Toronto]
 

AvariceX

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Santana = JL right? Not brawling? o_O <- I don't know why I thought this

Anyway, I didn't get time to look at venues this weekend, mainly because I was hammered. I am still considering (probably) changing the venue fee structure to a flat venue fee, but I want to get venue costs first so I actually have numbers to work with before I change anything. After this week I have no major college projects due until April so I should have lots of time to look at venues.
 

NightZander

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I -might- come to this. I've heard Zikko is godly and I have to see it for myself. Same with Ally. I'm Night, from Washington D.C.

Add-on: If I come to this, I'm bringing a Wii, Dazzle, and a T.V. that you'd see fall on people in an old cartoon.
 

DaZe

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Dave, the only reason you're gonna make money is that I can't show to this thing on account of the fact that I'm going to be in China. I know it's heartbreaking, but it has to happen. I get back early July and I'll try and grab some vacation time then.
 

sgthands

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maybe someone on your boat knows somone in china that can play smash lmao
 

AvariceX

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I'm going to be making a big update to the front page post next week sometime. Hopefully venue will be finallized but maybe not, there's a lot of venues to contact. Venue fee structure is also going to change slightly.
 

AvariceX

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UPDATE: There are now 8 venues we are looking at. I'm not going to bother posting all the details until we determine which one we will be using. Most likely we will go with the cheapest venue that can hold enough people. The prospective venues are:
1. Wheels Inn
2. Club Lentinas
3. Moose Lodge
4. Kent Belgian-Dutch Club
5. Chatham Golf & Fun Centre
And about 3 others I can't remember the names of right now.

I haven't been able to finalize the venue yet because the closer I get to my final exams the heavier my workload becomes. If I can manage to contact all the venues then I will get one finalized, but I cannot promise anything until after April 16th (end of my classes).

The Venue Fee structure has been updated, please provide feedback.
 

Darcia

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Depending on if I can go or not, I can provide a Gamecube and Game.

Though I wouldn't be competing.

All depends on ride and funds.

And final parental approval, so no promises.
 

AvariceX

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yoooo Avarice we should do some random free sf4 tourny like in Quebec. :D
I totally agree. I think I'm switching mains to Abel. I've started learning him much more in-depth and I won't be the 10 millionth fireball whoring akuma.

I'll definitely have my xbox360 SFIV setup there anyway.
 
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