Where you AGT? The Official Toon Link General Discussion/ Video Thread!

[Jolteon]

Discuss Toon Link's metagame in this video and post gameplay footage! Feel free to provide feedback on videos.

Videos:
Gameplay (v3.5 only!):

Jolteon
Jolteon vs Professor Pro (Snake)
Jolteon vs Fuzzyness (Captain Falcon)
Jolteon vs Can~D (Bowser)
Jolteon vs Frenzy (Wolf)

Lunchables
Lunchables vs DrinkingFood (ROB)
Lunchables vs Infinity (Meta Knight)
Lunchables vs Sneak (Captain Falcon/Marth)
Lunchables vs Zeus (Sonic/Ganondorf)
Lunchables vs Dakpo (Game&Watch)
Lunchables vs Sethlon (Roy)

Smith
Smith vs Grant (Ganondorf) 1
Smith vs Grant (Ganondorf) 2
Smith vs Grant (Ganondorf) 3
Smith vs Grant (Ganondorf) 4
Smith vs Grant (Ganondorf) 5
Smith vs Grant (Ganondorf) 6
Smith vs Grant (Fox) 1
Smith vs Grant (Fox) 2

tc1
tc1 + Boss (Mario) vs Swag Apocalypse (Fox) + Fortune (Donkey Kong)

Kanye East
Kanye East vs Vel (Zelda)

Tutorials:
How to make your Bombjumps do only 3% by 8adge
TL 6 Jumps Demonstration Video by OkamiBW
General AGT and Bomb Jump Tutorial by `daze
How to AGToonLink Pt.1 by `daze
Toon Link's Recovery Demonstration by Frenum

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Jolteon
Jolteon vs Fuzzyness (Kirby/Sonic)
Jolteon vs Professor Pro (Snake)
Jolteon vs Armada (Pit)
Jolteon vs InternetExplorer6 (Link)
Jolteon vs Professor Pro (Snake)
Jolteon vs Professor Pro (Meta Knight)
Jolteon vs Professor Pro (Ivysaur)
Jolteon vs Professor Pro (Zero Suit Samus)
Jolteon vs Professor Pro (Mewtwo)

Smith
Smith vs Narcotix (Lucas)
Smith vs Phish It (Yoshi/Ganondorf/Captain Falcon)
Smith vs Swann (Ivysaur/Bowser)

Lunchables
Lunchables vs Denti (Ivysaur)
Lunchables vs Luck (Diddy Kong)
Lunchables vs Pizzacato (Samus)
Lunchables vs Dakpo (Mr. Game and Watch)
Lunchables vs Denti (Ivysaur)
Lunchables vs Denti (Ivysaur)
Lunchables vs Sethlon (Roy)
Lunchables vs Dakpo (Mr. Game and Watch)
Lunchables vs Infinity [Metaknight)
Lunchables vs Infinity (Metaknight)
Lunchables vs Oracle (ROB)
Lunchables vs Rai (Fox/Lucario)
Lunchables vs AeroLink (Link)
Lunchables vs Sethlon (Roy)
Lunchables vs Denti (Ivysaur)
Lunchables vs Sethlon (Roy)
Lunchables & Dakpo (G&W) vs Sethlon (Roy) & Denti (Ivysaur)
Lunchables vs Awestin (Ness)

Anmex
Anmex vs Ic3 (Link)
Anmex vs Axe (Pikachu)
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`dazrin aka `daze
`dazrin vs JCaesar (ROB)
DEMO 2.5 Preview Build: `daze vs SinisterB (Zero Suit Samus)

Aero/Frenum
Frenum vs Lucario/Ike
Frenum vs Donkey Kong
Frenum vs Okami(Sheik/Toon Link)
Aero vs CT Tyrant (Marth)
Aero vs DEHF (Falco)
Aero vs DEHF (Falco) 2
Aero vs DEHF (Falco) 3
Aero vs Kiraflax (Charizard)
Aero vs WiR K9 (Meta Knight)

OkamiBW
Okami vs GSP
Okami vs Calabrel(Lucas)
Okami vs Calabrel 2
Okami vs Wieners(P4)
Okami vs Frenum(Toon Link)

MonkUnit
Monk vs Toast (Sheik/Ganondorf)

Tyler (N.T. Sac)
N.T. Sac vs Maser WGS (Lucas)
N.T. Sac vs Vist (Luigi)
N.T. Sac vs BuckOhFive (Donkey Kong)
Tyler vs Sheik
Tyler vs Dedede

Max
Max vs Wario/Charizard
Max vs ROB

Jolteon
Jolteon vs Fuzzyness (Lucario/Lucas)

Scythe
Scythe vs DLA (Ganondorf)
Scythe vs Arty (Lucas/Fox)

Calvo aka Meiling
Meiling vs C!Z (Falco)

Lunchables
Lunchables vs UTDZac (Ivysaur/Pikachu)

Tesla Coil
Tesla Coil vs Dope (Diddy Kong)
Tesla Coil vs Treetz (Captain Falcon)
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How to get your bombjumps to only do 3%
I posted this in the social thread already, but if you don't already know it, this technique could actually be useful: <3% damage bombjumps. Here's a video demonstration. I've also tried doing it without slowdown by now and it's really not impossible to consistently.
What I did was just space the Up-B to hit the bomb as far away as possible and then ASDI away. Essentially just do a normal bombjump and hold forward on the control stick a bit before hitting the bomb. This is, where the bomb should touch the sword.

I hope this was helpful, have fun.

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[GunBlaze]

I might pick up Tink again. Left him because of AGT necessity.

 

[OkamiBW]

Tap jump off + C-stick throwing. Problem solved.

 

[GunBlaze]

Tap jump off + C-stick throwing. Problem solved.

Basically, in 2.1, I would tether with the A button. THE A BUTTON! You don't tether with your attack button!

And now it's almost impossible for me to perform

 

[OkamiBW]

Well, if it's tethering, I don't have any advice for you. I just click Z to do so. For AGT'ing, I do what I said.

 

[GunBlaze]

Well, if it's tethering, I don't have any advice for you. I just click Z to do so. For AGT'ing, I do what I said.

It seems I have been misunderstood. What I meant to illustrate was that when attempting to perform an AGT in 2.1, pressing the A button would cause a tether to come out. I can be ambigous sometimes, but it is not intentional.

 

[Jolteon]

Why not just AGT with the c-stick? >.>

edit: I also feel the same way daze does.

 

[`dazrin]

:ltrigger::stick9:stick6:

Where you AGT?

Okami- I don't even need to turn tapjump off, honestly. I find myself able to AGT and save my jump consistently just fine.

 

[GeekModeOffset]

Whoa what is this AGT all about? Looks like something I did on accident once, haha! Didn't realize there was an AT for it!

 

[OkamiBW]

:ltrigger::stick9:stick6:

Where you AGT?

Okami- I don't even need to turn tapjump off, honestly. I find myself able to AGT and save my jump consistently just fine.

Turning off tap jump allows you to have more freedom to do it without losing your jump. Especially since in Project M tilt air dodges don't go as far as fully pushed air dodges. You can do it quicker without having to worry about it. I suppose the real question I have is why 'not' turn it off with TL?

 

[`dazrin]

Cuz I like tap :<

 

[GHNeko]

Because im old skool and tap jump off is for scrubs.

 

[GeekModeOffset]

I actually find that it is easier to do it with Tap Jump on. I also found that AGT is do-able without having to sync the C-Stick up at the same time. Is this only because I had Tap Jump on?

 

[`dazrin]

Updated the OP with Scythe's recent tournament games. I had no idea he was playing TL in 2.5! He has a good Toon Link ... needs more AGT tho :b

 

[BRLNK88]

This is cool and all, but what about smashmods?

Hey daze, can you put this in the OP?:

HOW TO PERFORM AGT JUMPS (credit to Okami)

1. Turn tap jump off.
2. Grab a bomb.
3. Full hop. Jump 1
4. AGT up while saving your jump. Jump 2
5. Jump + grab a bomb. Jump 3
6. AGT up + grab a bomb. Jump 4
7. AGT up. Jump 5
8. Land with a N-air for kicks. (kicks...get it?)
(Btw, you can actually get a 6th jump if you do it right)

 

[metroid1117]

Updated the OP with Scythe's recent tournament games. I had no idea he was playing TL in 2.5! He has a good Toon Link ... needs more AGT tho :b

Scythe can speak for himself if he comes around here, but he said he was really liking TL. He especially liked the new WW jabs and the FSmash KB increase.

 

[OkamiBW]

TL 6 Jumps Video

 

[Yung Mei]

swaggin thread, consider me a tink secondary ;w;

 

[BRLNK88]

TL 6 Jumps Video

Hmm... I'm gonna have to spend a good amount of time in the lab before I can do this consistently in matches, and in such a manner that I don't get read.
You basically kill yourself if you screw it up while recovering.
OK, practiced it a bunch, the best I managed to get was 4 jumps. The biggest thing to get used to is throwing the bombs with the c-stick, I always use A because I learned Smash through Smash 64 which has no c-stick. I also had difficulty throwing the bomb sideways since I first learned how to use AGT to bomb jump. You're already pointing the control stick up while airdodging, thus I instinctively throw the bomb up as well.

Funny thing is, I picked up Toon because I'm not a technical player, yet it looks like I will have to master something rather technical just to recover with him...

 

[Deleted member]

Playing TL vs Fox is really fun. Tech chasing with d throws and grounded Up-B's are fun, but maybe I sound very dumb. Also that Up smash wrecking those fast fallers. :D
I might upload some fun footage of tl later.

 

[GHNeko]

Grounded up B is a good move.

Discuss.

 

[Scythe]

Updated the OP with Scythe's recent tournament games. I had no idea he was playing TL in 2.5! He has a good Toon Link ... needs more AGT tho :b

I recently picked him up before 2.5 came out. F-smash seems like it's twice as strong now. Also the new jabs look cool but I actually think they are easier to CC, but I would need to test that. A Wario d-tilted me while he was getting hit by it lol.

I need to practice the bomb recovery because up-b by itself is trash fro recovery : /


edit: grounded up-b is good against anyone who isn't familiar with melee crouch cancel.

 

[GHNeko]

But it does soo much damage.

EDIT: Daze said you can't SDI down to CC mid move, so you pretty much have to be CCing before hand I think. So if they fall into it, they're getting the D.

 

[`dazrin]

Grounded up-b is pretty legitimate in 2.5. It's a great oos option now that you can't just shield in the middle of the move and punish it

..You can still SDI out of grounded up-b though! But yeah, fully charged up-b does 25% if all the hits land haha

Also BrownLink- AGTing in general isn't that technical; it just takes a bit of practice

 

[GHNeko]

Mark my words. I'm going to have the most grounded up b-in-est Tink ever. And it's not going to be ***.

 

[Deleted member]

grounded upb 2gud
grounded up b offstage into aerial up b that hits = lololololol

 

[`dazrin]

So I'm pretty sure electric dtilt -> Fsmash is a thing. Lol

BTW, Okami and I have been throwing around the idea that Fsmash out of throws may actually be viable- any one else have any luck with this?

 

[Jolteon]

I've had some success with dthrow -> fsmash

 

[GHNeko]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0n06GlpODg

Look at all that up B. huehuehue.

 

[`dazrin]

Rofl

2good

 

[Deleted member]

lmao neko. That could definitely be a solid trick, but only on a goofy stage.

 

[GHNeko]

I'll take my shenanigans to a starter. I'll show you all the power of Up B.

 

[Cr5_01]

Aerial Up-B seems like a good KO move. I'm wondering on how effective it can be as a KO move. Is there any moves that setup for an aerial up b at higher percents?

 

[GHNeko]

Dthrow 1st and foremost.
Dtilt probably.
Maybe utilt?

 

[Cr5_01]

Yeah, I had Dthrow in mind. Thanks.

 

[`dazrin]

Dthrow -> UpB is TL's BnB kill setup. It works on a vast majority of the cast, haha. Dthrow pretty much sets up for guaranteed combos/kills on everyone at some point.

 

[Cr5_01]

Cool,I'm going to try that. Toon Links Up-B seems like a good move that has a lot of potential. KO move, OoS, edgeguard,etc.

 

[BRLNK88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0n06GlpODg

Look at all that up B. huehuehue.

Ugh... what stood out to me from that match is that TL really needs a boost in his up-B.
AGT and bomb jump are OK if you're recovering horizontally from a distance. It's ******** that he literally can't recover from a short distance if your opponent has half an idea how to edgeguard. There WILL be MUs where he has to sacrifice stage control because his opponent is better at it *cough* Falco *cough*.
If he had YL's recovery distance, it wouldn't be an issue, even if the animation is different. The spin would still protect him and he wouldn't look like a sack of rocks trying to jump.

 

[`dazrin]

Not to discredit or offend Neko, but he doesn't really know how to recover proficiently with Toon Link either.

 

[Yung Mei]

guys i need some help - for some reason, when i try to bomb jump, at low percents i always get it, but when i DIRELY need it like, for example, when i need to recover (l0l) the bomb just touches my head and i dont hit it


**** is ****ing gay, how the hell do i fix it. im absolutely certain im agt'ing correctly too, i have no clue why the hell this happens