What's next for Nintendo?

[Mr. Rogu]

Flash memory is not classified as a hard disk drive, the chances of a Holo drive being released for the Wii and being at an affordable price are pretty low, although there are many other solutions.

it probably wont come out on the wii, its to advanced in technology for the wii. now the next nintendo system, maybe. im still not 100% what this holographic memory is.

 

[CHAOSDRAGON88]

it probably wont come out on the wii, its to advanced in technology for the wii. now the next nintendo system, maybe. im still not 100% what this holographic memory is.

I agree but only due to the fact that its quite expensive. And there'd have to be some modifications for it so it'd accompany the wii. Also there's a lot of people complaining that due to all the peripherals the wii is getting pricey, so Wii 2.0 is the viable solution IMO. Also I am going to give you the link to the "Holodrive" (Its actually called Inphase technologies) website so you can check it out for yourself. I actually forgot how to explain it. I am gonna try to get the youtube vid of the spokesperson explaining it too. I phailed, and have maketh Chuck norris mad.

http://www.inphase-tech.com/

 

[Red Exodus]

I'd be kinda pissed if they just dropped the Wii right now but I wouldn't blame them. On one hand I want a better console but on the other I don't want the money I spent on my Wii to go down the drain.

 

[Sad Panda323]

Apparently, the storage solution they're coming up with is "better" than a harddrive, so who knows....

 

[knightzy]

Lets face it they rushed the wii think about it,they ad no money after the n64 and gamecube got crap sales so they hav'nt had that kind of money for years so they aimed it at a big market to make up there losses,the next console however will have a mix of hardcore and casual to make the hardcore group happy but still keep the casual market aswell,to save the wii pinkmen 3 needs to be good they need to make a kid icirus as it got promotion from brawl,a good kirby game would be nice.I dont need to explain anymore ya get the drift.

 

[derek.haines]

think about it,they ad no money after the n64 and gamecube got crap sales

While the Gamecube was the 3rd placed console last generation, it still did a very respectable 22 million during it's lifetime, only 2 million behind the original XBOX. The N64 did 32 million in console sales, ousting the Sega Saturn but coming in behind the PS1. When you consider that both consoles had no appeal beyond pure gaming (while the PS1 played CDs and the PS2 played DVDs) both outcomes are far from "crap sales".

 

[Finding Waldo]

I think that Nintendo will be most likely to first develop an enveloping VR console, as they are the most innovative in control styles. Far more advanced than a Wiimote, this system will actually put players "into" the world of Video Games.

But I think this is still several years away.

 

[knightzy]

they needed the money and posted losses from these consoles=loss but nintendo did not fall like sega did only because of posted gains in the handheld market.

 

[Finding Waldo]

Lets face it they rushed the wii think about it,they ad no money after the n64 and gamecube got crap sales so they hav'nt had that kind of money for years so they aimed it at a big market to make up there losses,the next console however will have a mix of hardcore and casual to make the hardcore group happy but still keep the casual market aswell,to save the wii pinkmen 3 needs to be good they need to make a kid icirus as it got promotion from brawl,a good kirby game would be nice.I dont need to explain anymore ya get the drift.

I oppose your standing on this topic. I personally believe that the Wii was the best-planned out of the three next generation console systems. Think about it; the X-box 360 had the dreaded "Red Lights of Death" that sent some systems two, even three times back to the repair shop. And the first batch of the PS3 was rushed to the point of failure. No, the Wii was ready; although some people still threw remotes through their television.

 

[derek.haines]

they needed the money and posted losses from these consoles=loss but nintendo did not fall like sega did only because of posted gains in the handheld market.

No...just, no. All console manufacturers takes losses on console production at first, the Wii being a distinct exception. The whole idea is to recoup the money through software sales, and in Nintendo's case the handheld market as you've mentioned. Nintendo sold millions of units of software through both of these console generations and was far from "taking a loss". Put into perspective, when Nintendo posted a loss in 2003, it was their first such loss since 1962.

 

[knightzy]

yes the handheld was the thing saving it the gamecube was a loss nintendo never comes last why did it come last because of the n64.

the wii was a bit rushed as it has low memory and a dvd drive.

 

[derek.haines]

yes the handheld was the thing saving it the gamecube was a loss nintendo never comes last why did it come last because of the n64.

the wii was a bit rushed as it has low memory and a dvd drive.

Nintendo didn't post a loss with the N64. They were in the black until 2003, well through the N64 era.

The Wii was a bit rushed for those reasons? Low memory and a DVD drive? Ever heard of the XBOX 360 Arcade? No built-in HD, 256MB memory unit, and--wait for it--a DVD drive.

 

[Bowser King]

yes the handheld was the thing saving it the gamecube was a loss nintendo never comes last why did it come last because of the n64.

the wii was a bit rushed as it has low memory and a dvd drive.

I really don't think they rushed it. Nintendo has always been about games and not the extra bonuses. For some this is bad but IMO I don't care if we don't get a DVD player, I already have one. If that means I'm going to get it cheaper, then that's great. Wii's starting price was $279 (approx.) while PS3's was 600+, because of bluray and some other stuff that I really don't need.

 

[Red Exodus]

Oddly enough, a Blu ray player costs around $1000, so getting a PS3 is killing two birds with one stone but Blu ray isn't useless, the extra space [around 45gigs more than DVD] can come in handy but it requires knowledge of the system to make all that extra space worth it. Right now all it probably does is allow certain parts of games to be left uncompressed which means higher quality but other than that many devs haven't made the extra space work for them.

 

[Bowser King]

Oddly enough, a Blu ray player costs around $1000, so getting a PS3 is killing two birds with one stone but Blu ray isn't useless, the extra space [around 45gigs more than DVD] can come in handy but it requires knowledge of the system to make all that extra space worth it. Right now all it probably does is allow certain parts of games to be left uncompressed which means higher quality but other than that many devs haven't made the extra space work for them.

I agree that bluray is great if you were originally planning to buy one (like my neighbour...who you don't know). Though if you only wanted the PS3 then it's not as great.

 

[Mr. Rogu]

i dont think the wii was rushed, in fact, i dont think the gamecube was rushed either. i mean the gamecube sucked with like no third party support, no online, and was dead last in the console wars but it still had better graphics than the ps2.

but nintendo should of known that the wii needed more memory to it. i mean with all the memory for games, VC titles, and channels, they should of added a harddrive. no johns nintendo

 

[Sad Panda323]

but nintendo should of known that the wii needed more memory to it. i mean with all the memory for games, VC titles, and channels, they should of added a harddrive. no johns nintendo

They thought that we would delete all the games we didn't play ever day.

 

[Darkslash]

Too be honest i thought at first the VC was going to hell popular. But then when i got Ocarina of time that changed. No more annoying sounds or graphical issues on emulators. Now i seriously love it :D

And i think Nintendo also didn't think VC was going to be popular as well. All they need to do is get Majora's mask on the VC and watch as the VC severs crash like theirs no tomorrow.

 

[derek.haines]

i dont think the wii was rushed, in fact, i dont think the gamecube was rushed either. i mean the gamecube sucked with like no third party support, no online, and was dead last in the console wars but it still had better graphics than the ps2.

but nintendo should of known that the wii needed more memory to it. i mean with all the memory for games, VC titles, and channels, they should of added a harddrive. no johns nintendo

I think the biggest problem with the Wii was that everything about it snuck up on them: The market it suddenly appealed to, the enormous sales popularity, the demand from hardcore gamers for games that fit that market. Because of that you've seen Nintendo scrambling for releases in both the casual and hardcore circles, attempting to patch the inherent holes in the console, and trying to keep the entire experience fresh. The DS seems like it's been alot of the same story, except it's had a bit more time to progress than the Wii.

What's next for Nintendo? Preparedness. From here on out they'll likely be spending a huge deal more time and money with a more thought-out strategy for their consoles.

 

[knightzy]

yes you do make a good point but have you forgotenn that,the wii 2.0 will have a bigger flash drive? and you will be stuck with your origanal wii and have a small crappy hard drive that was not thought out,no im not digging dvd drives (i have a wii myself) but it frustrates me that alot of the good worked graphical games on wii were first or second party?? the third party graphics have been not very grand,i mean look at brawl it runs at 60 frames and has some of the best graphical imeges on the wii and some games going at a lower rate have bad textures or dodgy backgrounds.

 

[CHAOSDRAGON88]

yes you do make a good point but have you forgotenn that,the wii 2.0 will have a bigger flash drive? and you will be stuck with your origanal wii and have a small crappy hard drive that was not thought out,no im not digging dvd drives (i have a wii myself) but it frustrates me that alot of the good worked graphical games on wii were first or second party?? the third party graphics have been not very grand,i mean look at brawl it runs at 60 frames and has some of the best graphical imeges on the wii and some games going at a lower rate have bad textures or dodgy backgrounds.

I can tell you what I do about crappy 3rd party titles and do you want to know what it is? DONT BUY THEM. Sorry but it had to be said. When you go into a store you should only be concerned with the best (not saying1st&2nd is the best) and not shovelware. Also thoroughly research(rent, review, etc...) the game you'd buy. Shovelware is destined for every system and even more so for popular ones. Some of these companies are just here to make money and couldn't careless about the consumer much like real life. So if you have a crappy game please rember that you bought it.
Also having a system isn't a burden if you have room for it and isn't it a collectors item in time? Who said the wii 2.0 would have a flash drive? This is pure speculation here with brilliant minds. Flash would be severely outdated in the future imo. We have some PS3's with a tb of storage, I can only pray they work with inphase tech for the memory.

 

[Aleol]

Nintendo is not gonna make any more peripherals for the wii. Miyamoto has stated that they have too much and he is making them stop for now. Reggie has stated that they're not going to use a hard drive, but have something better.

My guess is, they're trying to focus on perfecting their games

 

[alchfilosofer]

Too be honest i thought at first the VC was going to hell popular. But then when i got Ocarina of time that changed. No more annoying sounds or graphical issues on emulators. Now i seriously love it :D

And i think Nintendo also didn't think VC was going to be popular as well. All they need to do is get Majora's mask on the VC and watch as the VC severs crash like theirs no tomorrow.

Agreed, FE4, Best RPG and tactical game EVER... I WILL have a fangasm if NOA (Nintendo of America) decides to translate it and put it on the virtual console (I beat it will increase the number of FE fans like 30%), or remake it (A 2D remake on the Wii or DS would be perfect).

You know about the aeris scene in FF7, that is NOTHING compared to the chapter 5 of FE4.

And if they decide to use the orchestra version of "Door of fate" on chapter 5... http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=HHSk88BwLNo&feature=PlayList&p=85151E32B1457322&index=6.

What do it have to do whit the treat? it WILL give a excellent reason to even the most hardcore to get a Wii (Yes is that good, Super metroid was the best game for me like for 7 years until i finished chapter 5 of FE4).
No joke

 

[Mr. Rogu]

if there is a wii 2.0 i so wouldnt buy it. think about it. they release it in well lets say six months from now and then another two years later, theres a new nintendo system. its just a waste of money to buy the wii 2.0. the only good thing is that it would have more memory, but not enough to make me but it.

 

[CHAOSDRAGON88]

if there is a wii 2.0 i so wouldnt buy it. think about it. they release it in well lets say six months from now and then another two years later, theres a new nintendo system. its just a waste of money to buy the wii 2.0. the only good thing is that it would have more memory, but not enough to make me but it.

I thought we was calling the next nintendo system the Wii2.0... O.o

And on top of that the big N usually remodels Handhelds like that. Plus they have to make sure everybody has one before they go "Lets never let our consumers get a chance to catch up and release a new home console ". And Even if they did release an upgraded wii and then a wii next gen two years from now, if you save a dollar a day you would have enough for transportation to the store (and back ) and to purchase it.

 

[Crimson King]

I thought we was calling the next nintendo system the Wii2.0... O.o

And on top of that the big N usually remodels Handhelds like that. Plus they have to make sure everybody has one before they go "Lets never let our consumers get a chance to catch up and release a new home console ". And Even if they did release an upgraded wii and then a wii next gen two years from now, if you save a dollar a day you would have enough for transportation to the store (and back ) and to purchase it.

Nintendo stated some time before the Wii was out that they'd like to do a 2 - 3 year console cycle.

 

[CHAOSDRAGON88]

Wii is turning two soon right? I think they may change their minds due to the amont of money its "printing".

 

[Mr. Rogu]

Nintendo stated some time before the Wii was out that they'd like to do a 2 - 3 year console cycle.

thats really short and a rip off. here we spend 250-300 dollars on a system plus buying games and accessories for it. then in two short years release another system, i dont think so. i would stop following nintendo if they did that

 

[Bowser King]

I'm dissapointed with that to but I really don't see nintendo sending a new system till 2010. A new zelda and mario game are said to be comming in 2-3 years. There is no way they would release it for wii when they have a new system out. They might but atleast that proves that we won't be getting a new system till atleast 2010.

 

[Sad Panda323]

They better not release a new console soon, I just bought a Wii in march.

 

[Aleol]

The Mario and zelda games are coming out next year<_<

But still people! they're going to stop making peripherals for the wii!

 

[Bowser King]

The Mario and zelda games are coming out next year<_<

But still people! they're going to stop making peripherals for the wii!

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=191349

straight from nintendo...

 

[Aleol]

"won't be released in early 2009" "generally take 2-3 years to complete"

Neither means they won't be released until 2-3 years from now. They could've started them 2 or less years ago, and they could be planning for a Q3 or Q4 release. All that means is that They won't be released in Q1, and that that's the average development time for a hardcore franchise

 

[Bowser King]

"won't be released in early 2009" "generally take 2-3 years to complete"

Neither means they won't be released until 2-3 years from now. They could've started them 2 or less years ago, and they could be planning for a Q3 or Q4 release. All that means is that They won't be released in Q1, and that that's the average development time for a hardcore franchise

If you add 2-3 years from when that was said, it would be about 2010.

 

[Mr. Rogu]

I'm dissapointed with that to but I really don't see nintendo sending a new system till 2010. A new zelda and mario game are said to be comming in 2-3 years. There is no way they would release it for wii when they have a new system out. They might but atleast that proves that we won't be getting a new system till atleast 2010.

thats still pretty short considering the wii came out in the holidays of 2006. Im asking for five years, then ill be ready for a new system. i mean the gamecube came out in holidays of 2001 and pretty much well officially died in holidays of 2006. even though it really died like a year and a half earlier.

 

[Aleol]

If you add 2-3 years from when that was said, it would be about 2010.

They said they generally take 2-3 years to complete. GENERALLY. This does not mean they started making them the year that they stated this. They said they PLANNED for an 09 release.

That means they started the projects 1.5-2 years ago

Also, It means they take a while to make, but by no means means that they started it in late or early 08

Saying that all teams are working on them doesn't mean they JUST started

 

[lonewolfe]

Sorry, if this is off topic, but regarding Nintendo's recent statements about a storage solution....what about Gamecube memory card usage? I just thought of it, but if they could make it possible, and release gigabyte size memory cards, it just might work....

Then again I don't know anything about the technical side of actually making that work, so ....><

 

[rockman2k1]

There's nothing left for Wii.

 

[CHAOSDRAGON88]

Sorry, if this is off topic, but regarding Nintendo's recent statements about a storage solution....what about Gamecube memory card usage? I just thought of it, but if they could make it possible, and release gigabyte size memory cards, it just might work....

Then again I don't know anything about the technical side of actually making that work, so ....><

Quite sometime ago I remember seeing gamecube memorycards (in magazines) that were like adapters to Sd cards. I believe this wait has something to do with ninty's war with piracy. I think next gen we'll get answers...

 

[Hyper_Ridley]

Just my two cents:

I think Nintendo should be able to put a lot more focus on "Uber -1337" graphics for their next console. I can understand the emphasis on the motion controls for the Wii, but with the motion-plus, there won't need to be as much emphasis given to gameplay or innnovativness, so hopefully the next Ninty console will be able to have to best of both worlds : great gameplay as well as great graphics