What is it with Castle Siege?

[DRaGZ]

Why does R.O.B. do well on Castle Siege?

I've CPed it a few times in tournies now, and for some reason it works remarkably well. The only two reasons I can think of only occur in the second transformation, where the statues let me laser in peace and extends the length of my d-smashes while those flag platforms on either side near the top makes for easy n-air ceiling kills.

So, like, what is it about this level?! I wanna knooooow.

 

[Sudai]

Right side = super easy gimps due to ghey ledge?

 

[SenorPresidente]

Right side = super easy gimps due to ghey ledge?

This and probably in the third transformation as the stage tilts.

 

[Nintendevil]

yes and the first one. Smoetimes people get caught under there easily.... *cough* (sonic)...

 

[Sudai]

yes and the first one. Smoetimes people get caught under there easily.... *cough* (sonic)...

Do you not read what other people post?

 

[Lv.99]

Well, I do like the first stage. Both platforms make for easy u-tilts/smashes. You're right about the second stage and the lasers, but I am not a fan of how the gyro can't pass thrugh them. And of course, the third stage is R.O.B. heaven. The teetering rock can trap a few bad placed u-b's but only the worst R.O.B. will fall to their doom there.
And, of course my friend had to point this out, Castle Siege has some of the best music of the legal stages. Who doesn't like to Brawl to "Power-Hungery Fool" or "Preparing to Advance" while brawling?

 

[The Unlawful Salmon]

I've been doing really well on this stage too. I don't even hate the pillar's since you can chuck a fully charged gyro in between two of them, and have it bounce around scoring multiple hits. It sets them up for getting comboed too.

 

[DRaGZ]

I guess since R.O.B. doesn't necessarily do poorly on any level, it may be a good idea to present who we were playing on said level (of the ones I can remember).

The first time it CPed well was when I was on a tag team with seige's Jigglypuff vs. Futile's Wario and R.O.B. (I'm sorry I don't remember his partner's name...Aero? I'm really not sure). I was left alone with one life and no damage and Futile had two lives with a lot of damage and the R.O.B. had one life with a lot of damage. In the second stage transformation, I held them both off and managed to win the game (we still got ***** in the other two matches though).

The second time I CPed it was another tag team when I teamed up with selendrile's Metaknight vs. a Snake and a DeDeDe. We soundly won that one with two lives left a piece and very little damage.

I've CPed it outside of tags, but these are the only two specific ones I remember.

 

[JCaesar]

Good **** Dragz. Is tag teams different from 2v2, or is that just what you call it out there on the WC?

 

[DRaGZ]

Oh lol, it's just my fancy way of saying 2 vs. 2.

I watched a lot of wrestling in middle school and it hasn't rubbed off on me it seems. Hehehe...

 

[TechnoMonster]

Not fun against DeDeDe. I'm all about not getting grabbed but I don't need that drama.

 

[Mr.E]

Does the statue in phase two mess with Dedede's CG any?

 

[Sudai]

No. Only things that mess with the CG are uneven land (tilted lylat or stage 3 CS count), a trip, and anything that stuns D3 for any amount of time (Or you if the stun is less than that of the DThrow's normal stun).

 

[majoras.]

so against IC and dedede its good to counterpick lylat?

 

[Sudai]

I always CP D3 to Lylat if I know there's no chance of them going Snake. If there's a chance they're gonna go Snake, I'll CP to Orpheon or Yoshi's Island(Brawl). The slants in Yoshi's makes it weird for D3 to CG. I'll only pick Orpheon if it's more than a 60% chance of them picking Snake though. Don't really want that small of a stage against a D3.

As for ICs, I like to CP to Rainbow Cruise. No infinite and it's too easy to gimp Nana. Once she's dead, Popo dies at the left vertical part like..90% of the time no matter percent.

 

[JCaesar]

Eff that, CP Japes against DDD, especially if they might go Snake (and I've noticed that DDD's always have a strong secondary, no one ever goes DDD for an entire tourney for some reason). Anyway, yeah, DDD blows on Japes, can't CG, can't camp, can't kill (just watch out for water suicides).

 

[JJR.O.B.]

I think they dont go DDD for a whole tourney because he has too many bad mathcups.

 

[Mr.E]

CP Japes and you get MK or G&W shoved down your throat to take advantage of the high ceiling. ;(

 

[Sudai]

Eff that, CP Japes against DDD, especially if they might go Snake (and I've noticed that DDD's always have a strong secondary, no one ever goes DDD for an entire tourney for some reason). Anyway, yeah, DDD blows on Japes, can't CG, can't camp, can't kill (just watch out for water suicides).

I have a ******** TO that recently decided to ban Japes because a few people complained about a falco CPing there and doing CG > DAir to kill them. I showed him it's a non issue really and proved how easy it was to get out of with at least 7 characters and he said he'd think about unbanning it, but never did..sigh. It's ******** to ban a stage for something like that anyway, especially when it's not effective against smart people.

 

[frdagaa]

I hated Japes throughout melee. After I watched OS's little demo video on cooking s'mores and pitchin tents there against that Snake, though, I've loved it. Do you still go to his tournaments?

 

[Mr.E]

I CPed Japes against Dedede twice in brackets Saturday night and I was not impressed with the results at all. You can be CGed on the central platform and camping the side platforms is just an invitation to get Dee spammed faster than they can be lasered through. The high ceiling does as much for Dedede as it does for ROB and it's still an invitation to having ROB's two worst character matchups CPed against him. Is there something I'm not getting here?