What if Pokemon was brought to reality?

[UltiMario]

you didnt read how i screwed all the pokes, did you?

the only dangerous ones would be like Charizard and gyrados

You act like you debunked 90% of Pokemon.

In reality, at most its 25%.

Some threatening possible things?

Tyranitar is still a dinosaur in a rock suit.
Aerodactyl lives on.
Metagross is a robot. Who needs bioloogy, eh?
Dragon types as a whole.
Every legend I can think of will EVENTUALLY exist.
Electivire is actually realistic and threatening now.
Mamoswine > Tanks
IF Ghost types exist, then they can be deadly too.
Fighting types **** if they can get close-in
Porygon-Z would eventually be created, and since its not really biological, it can do whatever the hell it pleases. Hyper Beam > A lot of things.
Also, countering you bug-type statements, the Bug types in Pokemon with hard exosceletons seems to have large, extremely flexable joints. Immobile is the last thing you'll be saying when Scizor cuts your head off.


And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Not only this, but if this happens in the far future when virtual-reality -> Real world, then our more discoveries in the future would yeild that many Pokemon you think are impossible, can be possible by new science proving it so. Only extreme cases like Magcargo would be unable to exist at that point I bet.

Also Joe, Pokemon > Guns. Why would you take the time to creat a bomb, when instead you can just take a Porygon-Z, then fire the strongest Hyperbeam possible in reality at a base, and get the same effect?

Pokemon are menecing and would revolutionize war.


But really, we should be talking about how Pokemon could revolutionize PEACE.

 

[Wave⁂]

I think I'm just going to ignore JOE from now on. I prefer UltiMario's posts.

 

[finalark]

But really, we should be talking about how Pokemon could revolutionize PEACE.

So ignoring that Joe will eventually pwn you with hard science, let's look on the brighter side of things. Seeing how the games and anime have already shown us that if the mons got into the wrong hands it would be the end of the world.

So how could Pokemanz make the world a better place? Well, it could possibley open up a ton of new professions, and I'm sure that the popularity of the video games, card game, ect. would skyrocket. The mons themselves could be used to help such as supplying electric power ("Oh great, my card batter is dead. Hold on, let me just get my Pikachu....") or even help rid the world of some pollution. That is, assuming that for some reason our laws of science get the finger and the anime's laws of science come into place. In that case scientists eveywhere would start crying, seeing how they'd have to go back to square one.

 

[JOE!]

Depends on the pokemon honestly, assuming the laws of the universe to allow them to exist with all their in-game powers, a number of them would be extremely effective at specialized roles, and don't forget certain ones could probably be trained to use guns too.


Fire pokemon>flamethrowers for example, psychic pokemon would revolutionize special forces and covert opps, and that's just the start, think of the implications of powers that haven't been explicitly used, poison and plant pokemon for biological warfare (both in the normal sense and used against crops and the like) are a very easy example of this.


Pokemon in war is SCARY, just not in traditional battle lines, but that is fast becoming irrelevant.

yeah, they would be scary assuming for some reason their powers worked, but then again even if some worked, they still do fall under some laws of physics, like earthquake not being "aimable", or guns being able to easly kill 95% of them



as for Ulti's post, you know you're wrong..

 

[UltiMario]

Many of the most threatening ones don't give a **** about the laws of Physics, they still work under them, so lets scratch that.
Earthquake isn't ever going to be needed for any purpose that will help human life. Lets scatch that then too.

Now, I am going to go and skim through all the Pokemon, and give you a rough percentage of all Pokemon that can survive gun bullets. Then, a number of how many can survive explosives.

Survive Bullets:
About 60% of Pokemon can survive quite a few hits. About 12% can actually tank bullets with no problem. Is this "tanking with no problem" the figure you used when making your post?
Just as a fun fact, I found that the 3rd Gen appears to have the most Pokemon that are good at tanking bullets.
Now for explosives.

Survive Explosives:
I found about 15% of Pokemon can survive explosives without too much trouble, but only about like, 8% could ever tank them.

Joe, you're forgetting one thing whenever you make a statement.

These are not animals.

These are extremely intelligent animals with superpowers.


Joe, I admit, sometimes you have been right, but there have been other times where I wanted to slap you from your own stupidity.

 

[Wave⁂]

I'm curious as to how you got those numbers.

 

[UltiMario]

By getting a list of every pokemon, then skimming through them, and pretty much going yes-yes-no-yes-no-no, etc, about whether the Pokemon had the build or typing in order to survive enough hits, then posting my results.

The numbers could be a little off, but overall, thats what they generally look like.

Explosives was the easier to count, because only some Ubers, Rocks, Steels, and Fire types could take explosions.

I know for a fact I'm not over-estimating, the numbers you see here are quite modest.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

So what you're saying is basically only 12% of Pokemon could "survive" from them, while the other 88% get crushed.

Again. This is your flawed logic. You might say that a Blastoise could survive a couple shots, but I wouldn't be able to say that it couldn't. You're not allowing what other people may think.

-Terywj

 

[pickle962]

God help us all if Pokemon ever becomes real. It's bad enough people wanna catch 'em all in the games, if them creatures ever existed in real life.....

 

[Wave⁂]

That number seems about right, despite being subjective.

 

[JOE!]

while yes, some could take a few shots, the guys you describe as being able to be like superman, bouncing bullets off their bodies, would be the ones who wouldnt be living anyways.

if an attack like Tackle can damage them, a bullet will KILL them if not maim them. End of story.

As for fire types survivng explosions, the damage from explosions if the shrapenel and concussive force. It would rip them to shreds.


and your argument as to "they dont apply cus theyz pogeymanz, not animals" is a matter of pure semantics.

They would still be living creatures, thus fall under categories of biology that would apply to each pokemon, such as the bug types being too big to have exoskeletons in our current O2 levels and gravity, or pokes such as electabuzz not being able to move properly or even attack (shocks itself to death).

stop being so narrow minded and look at nature for examples of why all these things are like this.

 

[UltiMario]

Tackles only can hurt in the games via the rule that damage absolutely must be done.

In a more realistic situation, a Tauros could Double-Edge a TTar, and it wouldn't feel a thing.
Same with Metagross.
Same with any other Pokemon with a protective shell.
All of which can bounce off bullets.

Also, SOME Fire Types WOULD survive explosions, such as Heatran or the Mag family. Just to prove my point.

For your electric Pokemon logic, in that theory, the Electric Eel couldn't exist, and nothing with poison could exist because the poison would just destroy the rest of their bodies and kill them. Electric Pokemon would have specially adapted to use electricity just like animals are specially adapted to have toxins in their bodies.

You're the one beig narrow-minded. Figuring out any possible way a Pokemon COULD exist would be the true mindset of this thread, rather than trying to debunk the existance of everything.

If this happened and every single Pokemon somehow is able to exist then I would laugh and point at Joe, and throw garbage cans at him for the rest of his life.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Or, you could realize that Pokemon won't exist, so you laughing at him would never happen.

You could still do it anyways.

-Terywj

 

[JOE!]

you do realize that snakes arent immune to their own poisons, and elec eels have super-leathery skin and special muslces to insulate themselves, along with their environment for protection, right?

 

[UltiMario]

And what says that Pokemon can't have special muscle tissues and the like to stop them from killing themselves?

On another note, on the terms of special tissues, I recall there being a gel that could be put on anything to make it heat and flame proof, the flame will still burn, but it won't be felt/have any effect on it. Maybe something like this could work with rapidash, moltres, and if amplified, slugma? Like, it being built-in to the top of the skin cells?

 

[JOE!]

those gels require chemical manufacturing, and it would weigh down Moltres, keeping his from flying still, be impractical for magcargo as he'd need to be like made of it, and on top of that, they would need to constantly eat the materials needed to create the chemicals in their diet, which are toxic.

also, electabuzz isnt gonna have special muscles if he has fur like that, along with those tiny appendages.

Its the skin more than the muscle that provides the insulation, which is why the pika's i stated could have the more plausible elec attacks as they have fat fat bodies (most likley insulated) along with those pouches to provide "outlets"

 

[adumbrodeus]

yeah, they would be scary assuming for some reason their powers worked, but then again even if some worked, they still do fall under some laws of physics, like earthquake not being "aimable", or guns being able to easly kill 95% of them



as for Ulti's post, you know you're wrong..

The "killed by guns" issue is really common to everything, plenty of amazing weapons are vulnerable to conventional weaponry, including normal soldiers, they're just effective enough that this outweighs that downside.


Also consider that a number of pokemon would be capable of using conventional body armor.



Again, we're not talking about bulk forces, we're talking about specialized roles, which a number of pokemon would be quite effective in to a terrifying degree.



As far as earthquakes go, if it's activated in your opponent's territory, does it matter?

 

[UltiMario]

Also consider that a number of pokemon would be capable of using conventional body armor.

You just jogged my memory.

In Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, Pokemon were used for warfare, and everything was wearing body armor. IT didn't seem to even effect the Pokemon's moveablilty in any way. I'm not sure, but I think I also might recall FLying types with Armor on.

Now for Joe's post.

@Joe- Similar to how animals can produce their own toxins, how do we not know that these gels could also be produced? I'm not sure of them chemical structure of the gel, I tried looking for it and came up with very little. Not sure if its possible, but if it is....

 

[Terywj [태리]]

As far as earthquakes go, if it's activated in your opponent's territory, does it matter?

Best argument in this thread.

Inb4Wobbs.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Wob can counter the earthquake and point it at Washington DC

Totally.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Wob can counter the earthquake and point it at Washington DC

Totally.

And that is why I said Inb4Wobbs..

You terorist!

-Terywj

 

[Kantō]

mewtwo had armour on in the1st pokemon movie. he looked pretty bad *** too. lol

 

[Terywj [태리]]

mewtwo had armour on in the1st pokemon movie. he looked pretty bad *** too. lol

Was he able to reflect attacks when he was in the suit of armor? I don't remember..

-Terywj

 

[StinkomanFan]

Laws and regulations would arise as well as licensing issues.

Spoiler

At least Digimon are limited to certain people.

 

[JOE!]

You just jogged my memory.

In Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, Pokemon were used for warfare, and everything was wearing body armor. IT didn't seem to even effect the Pokemon's moveablilty in any way. I'm not sure, but I think I also might recall FLying types with Armor on.

Now for Joe's post.

@Joe- Similar to how animals can produce their own toxins, how do we not know that these gels could also be produced? I'm not sure of them chemical structure of the gel, I tried looking for it and came up with very little. Not sure if its possible, but if it is....

its becaus ethe gels have components taht are deadly to be inside living organisms. They *could* produce it, but have tiny, tiny lifespans...

That and they would need to be like pissing it out of their pores 24/7 too keep the flames going.


as for the earthquake comment Adum, it was just an example of how "EQ" only effects the enemy pokemon you cast it on, and not the Gym, trainers or anything else. This means it wouldnt work like it does in the games, or that it is simply very weak, and wouldnt do much but make the more imbalanced poke's trip.

and Ulti, stop dancing around the subject, and look at the reasons why alot of the pokemon wont work. I might just have to go through each type again and say which will and wont work at being living beings...

(pretty much all fighters and normies are OK off the bat, save for like hitmonlee)

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

You just jogged my memory.

In Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, Pokemon were used for warfare, and everything was wearing body armor. IT didn't seem to even effect the Pokemon's moveablilty in any way. I'm not sure, but I think I also might recall FLying types with Armor on.

The beginning of that movie is so ******.

There should be a strategy game about a war like that where you can command the army and send out platoons and stuff. That would be pretty legit.

Whoops, off topic.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Advanced Wars...? Or are you looking for something more realistic.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Poison is poison.
Are some snakes and spiders venemous? yes.
Do they live 3 hours because they carry venom? no.
Could this also happenwith the gel and have an average lifespan? Theoretically, yes.

Life is the most adaptable and flexible thing on this planet. You treat it as the life today has been the life forever, and has and always will remain that way.

Life can do absolutely amazing things. It can live indepentant of the sun. It can live independant of water. Its just the infinate specializations that life can do that would allow Pokemon to live in this world.

 

[JOE!]

nope, plastic is the most adaptable and flexible

and they live becaus etheys tore venom in VENOM GLANDS or SACKS.

in order for these guys to produce their gels, they would need to, as I said, essentially piss it out of their pores 24/7 to feed the flames. That cnanot be done by simple glands, and all the exposure would poison them. As well as there'd be no way for them to obtain this fuel as the indredients are toxic and they cannot move around to feed because Firey wings means you dont fly, and being made of fire prevents you from eating things as they burn infront of you.

Also, you do realize that no life can truly live independant of water for 100% of it's entirety, right? Even cacti need a sprinkle now and then or they die.

As for sunless life-forms, they feed of either volcanic energies or chemicals (deep sea or deep caves) to replace the energy gained via sunlight (chemo isntead of photosynthesis)

and where do you get off calling me narrow minded when looking at these life-forms? I made it so CHARIZARD COULD BREATH FIRE!

Unfortuntaly, alot of pokes simply fail at being workable life-forms as we see them presented, due to odd anatomy or other things I listed in my big post, If we simply take them into our world that is.


I mean seriosuly, you're saying things like ice Beam would work or Acid armor would really turn vaporeon into water..

 

[UltiMario]

I said nothing of Turning Vaporeon into Water.

I said Muk.

LOLOLOLOL

Also, I knew of how Charizard works froma TV program about Dragons. You didn't make Charizard work, you just copypasta'd.

Some life can be around without water.

They're just a handful of bacteria, unfortunately.

Also, I still don't find "odd anatomy" a reasony why a Pokemon simply wouldn't work. Sure, it would be a hinderance, but they would still survive.

Also, Moltres WOULDN'T be made of fire, just with a firey-exterior.

Also, I'm thinking that under extremely specific circumstances that I'm too lazy to explain WOULD allow Moltres to live perfectly fine without being killed by toxins. The only drawback with the theory I thought up would stop its ability to fly. Either that, or the rest of its body would have to be a giant airsac, but then it'd die from a lack of vital organs.

I'm not going to make any more arguements for a while. I need to save my posts for 1337.

 

[Wave⁂]

Humans have really odd anatomy. An appendix, whatever that thing does. Pubic hair, the only thing that does is attract parasites and crap.

 

[JOE!]

Humans have really odd anatomy. An appendix, whatever that thing does. Pubic hair, the only thing that does is attract parasites and crap.

they both had uses when we were wild:

digesting raw meat and protecting our junk from stuff

by bad anaotmy i mean pokemon like electabuzz who have BIG bodies and little legs, rendering them failures at locomotion.

as for the muk comment, it still flies as you basically said something could live as a liquid.

Biologic flamethrower is as copy/paste as saying scyther would collapse under it's own exoskeleton. Its simply the way it would work, if you wnat i copy/pasted the exoskeleton note right from "before the dinosaurs".

no life is found without water, not even bacteria.

if moltres cannot fly, it fails as a creature because it is a big fat bird that has to walk everywhere, and must feed it's rapidly burning source for it's fire.

also: "OMG i has a theory but im to lazy to post it but it works, trust me!" is argument suicide

 

[adumbrodeus]

Joe, I really think you're missing the point here, here's not suggesting pokemon are IRL realistic, this is speculation of what the world would be like if they were realistic and did exist.

As far as the earthquake, based on what we've seen in terms of animation it's gameplay/story segregation.

 

[JOE!]

has earthquake actually been used in the anime? I dont recall it...

anywho, I do realize thats what he meant, but I posted a few pages back what'd happen if they were bent to our laws. He is arguing that things like Metagross could actually be living and have powers

 

[o-Serin-o]

Omg why hasn't this thread been made before.

Basically all the ups and downs have been said, so no need to reiterate.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Humans have really odd anatomy. An appendix, whatever that thing does. Pubic hair, the only thing that does is attract parasites and crap.

The appendix is a vestigal organ. Much like the hind flippers of whales.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Joe, I really think you're missing the point here, here's not suggesting pokemon are IRL realistic, this is speculation of what the world would be like if they were realistic and did exist.

Can we please make the thread do this?

Please?


I know Joe hates that, but this is how the thread will become fun again.

And it might make people come back.

And it might make this thread not full of scientifc arguements and suck.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Lololol.

Great post by Adumbrodeus. xD

-Terywj

 

[JOE!]

*looks at Adum's post a second time*

this is speculation of what the world would be like if they were realistic and did exist.

buuuuttt...if they were realistic, they would fall victim to the laws of nature, as Ive said..

as for being fun: Tough.

You said you wanted them to be brough to real life, real life would kick the ***** of 90% of them, just as it has to 90% of all species that have lived on earth for the last 2 billion years.

 

[UltiMario]

Its not 90% of species fault that **** beyond their control happens.

We'd still be in the dinosaur era if it wasn't for a Mucking meteor.