What if on 'With Anyone' online play...

[LancerStaff]

Is it? I always figured it was just semi smart play in ffa if you had to attack. You take out the best player first and if you are the best player you camp out and run trying to sneak in last hits.

I dunno, I dont like that rule and it seems like it could be abused for punishing players for something not too serious.

Remember Taunt Parties? Noobie Mc Nooberson fights some random guy and now everybody is gaining up on him. At least in for Fun you can hope to beat a better player with items or go for second place. 3v1s aren't fair not matter how you slice it.

 

[Senario]

Remember Taunt Parties? Noobie Mc Nooberson fights some random guy and now everybody is gaining up on him. At least in for Fun you can hope to beat a better player with items or go for second place. 3v1s aren't fair not matter how you slice it.

Well I never bothered with brawls online due to its infamy for being not great. Ganging up on somebody isnt fun but I dont think it is a punishable offense. Just leave that room. Four player freee for all will always run the risk of somebody feeling like they are targeted if they die quick enough. It is hard to prove though, were they actually targeted or were they super unlucky with items and stage hazards and died for it? In regular 4 player free for all you dont see it that often that three of the players can avoid each other to hit one person either

Taunt parties blah. Whoever came up with that idea I would like to play and beat them at the game enough so they get super salty. A really boneheaded idea that I think ruins any sort of fun you wanted to have. It feels like trolling and generally is a lot easier to prove I would imagine.

 

[SS-bros14]

This may be stupid, but what's a Taunt Party?

 

[LancerStaff]

Well I never bothered with brawls online due to its infamy for being not great. Ganging up on somebody isnt fun but I dont think it is a punishable offense. Just leave that room. Four player freee for all will always run the risk of somebody feeling like they are targeted if they die quick enough. It is hard to prove though, were they actually targeted or were they super unlucky with items and stage hazards and died for it? In regular 4 player free for all you dont see it that often that three of the players can avoid each other to hit one person either

Taunt parties blah. Whoever came up with that idea I would like to play and beat them at the game enough so they get super salty. A really boneheaded idea that I think ruins any sort of fun you wanted to have. It feels like trolling and generally is a lot easier to prove I would imagine.

The problem being that allowing people to gang up on another disallows pretty much any play at all from the effected. Whereas if one person is better the rest can still actually play. They can still win too, if they get lucky enough and/or avoid the better player.

This may be stupid, but what's a Taunt Party?

Basically a bunch of people taunting instead of fighting. Will often team up against those fighting TPers.

 

[JabbatheHutt]

wait... theres gonna be admins for online play. wtf.

 

[SS-bros14]

wait... theres gonna be admins for online play. wtf.

Didn't you watch the smash direct?

 

[Vann Accessible]

Maybe Smashboards can make its own server someday.

That'd be decent.

 

[LancerStaff]

Maybe Smashboards can make its own server someday.

That'd be decent.

The communities/tournaments features in MK7/8 would be nice in SSB.

 

[Deleted member]

I think it's going to be fine. And like LancerStaff said, it'd be very nice to have communities / tournaments features on the game. Agreed x9000.

 

[SS-bros14]

Basically a bunch of people taunting instead of fighting. Will often team up against those fighting TPers.

Oh, that must've stunk. I'm sure one time they ran into a competitive player and learned their lesson .
Also, there's a thread that says that you can set up tournament groups:
http://smashboards.com/threads/new-smash-online-information.363378/

 

[LancerStaff]

Oh, that must've stunk. I'm sure one time they ran into a competitive player and learned their lesson .
Also, there's a thread that says that you can set up tournament groups:
http://smashboards.com/threads/new-smash-online-information.363378/

Just posted there, actually.

"You can keep track of how you do..." Sounds like GSP.
"...And join groups for different levels of play..." For fun and for Glory.
"...Or region based." Worldwide or regional, typical options for online play for Nintendo games.

He basically said nothing. And wasn't this the guy who thought Rayman was playable? Even if he ment there was a true ranking or community system, we can't trust what he says.

 

[erico9001]

A 'quality post' on Miiverse is usually Rosalina in a bikini.
I'd prefer 'Hi, I'm new here'.

The mods at Miiverse are not these tyrannical people that they are made out to be, and the amount of people whining on Miiverse about them is annoying. One message getting deleted is no big deal.

Was there any other reason to making this thread than complaining about Miiverse mods? It seems odd to me that you would wonder if Miiverse mods would be moderating Smash bros online play when Miiverse and SSB4 are so loosely connected. That is, unless you have an underlying motive. Perhaps this message that got deleted was your own or a close friend's and now you want to get back at the mod that deleted it?

Well, that explains my opinion better than anything. No, they won't be, and in the hypothetical situation that they are, I wouldn't care.

 

[SS-bros14]

The mods at Miiverse are not these tyrannical people that they are made out to be, and the amount of people whining on Miiverse about them is annoying. One message getting deleted is no big deal.

Was there any other reason to making this thread than complaining about Miiverse mods? It seems odd to me that you would wonder if Miiverse mods would be moderating Smash bros online play when Miiverse and SSB4 are so loosely connected. That is, unless you have an underlying motive. Perhaps this message that got deleted was your own or a close friend's and now you want to get back at the mod that deleted it?

Well, that explains my opinion better than anything. No, they won't be, and in the hypothetical situation that they are, I wouldn't care.

This wasn't even meant to get into an argument about the admins. I'm saying that if the admins in online play are like the ones on miiverse, we're in trouble.
And 'want to get back at the mod that deleted it?' What?

 

[Luigi#1]

As an occasional Miiverse user [SOOOOOMETIMES when I'm bored] I can verify the admins are trash. Very trash.
But I'm sure better admins will be in this... right?

 

[Saito]

Remember Taunt Parties? Noobie Mc Nooberson fights some random guy and now everybody is gaining up on him. At least in for Fun you can hope to beat a better player with items or go for second place. 3v1s aren't fair not matter how you slice it.

Oh man I loved taunt parties.

Taking on 3 people at the same time was always a rush.

Like a 70% win ratio for those damn things. I just wish that It was melee. Probably would of been a 95% win ratio.

Smash 4 looks like KO power will be better along with combo potential so if I come across one I'm gonna say a 80% win ratio for those things.

 

[Luigi#1]

The mods at Miiverse are not these tyrannical people that they are made out to be, and the amount of people whining on Miiverse about them is annoying. One message getting deleted is no big deal.

Was there any other reason to making this thread than complaining about Miiverse mods? It seems odd to me that you would wonder if Miiverse mods would be moderating Smash bros online play when Miiverse and SSB4 are so loosely connected. That is, unless you have an underlying motive. Perhaps this message that got deleted was your own or a close friend's and now you want to get back at the mod that deleted it?

Well, that explains my opinion better than anything. No, they won't be, and in the hypothetical situation that they are, I wouldn't care.

Lol wow.

 

[Hayzie]

Let's see.....

Posts like "dat ass" and "I'm c*mming" still exist even when I reported them.

Not to be a tattle, but I wanted to see how well the admins work.

I was once banned for 2 weeks for.....probably getting the last comments every day in a row for a while.

I once had my picture of Midna deleted because it was deemed as "evil".

But Sakurai perversion and kiddie comments are fine.

Miiverse admins trash indeed.

 

[Luigi#1]

Let's see.....

Posts like "dat ***" and "I'm c*mming" still exist even when I reported them.

Not to be a tattle, but I wanted to see how well the admins work.

I was once banned for 2 weeks for.....probably getting the last comments every day in a row for a while.

I once had my picture of Midna deleted because it was deemed as "evil".

But Sakurai perversion and kiddie comments are fine.

Miiverse admins trash indeed.

Once on a pic with Wii Fit Trainer someone said
WARNING: Sexual references on a massive level.

Spoiler

"Those buns could use a little mayonnaise if you know what I mean." It was never deleted. [Christ that was gross too.]

 

[Hayzie]

Once on a pic with Wii Fit Trainer someone said
WARNING: Sexual references on a massive level.

Spoiler

"Those buns could use a little mayonnaise if you know what I mean." It was never deleted. [Christ that was gross too.]

THAT RINGS BELLS.

 

[DevaAshera]

Yeah, I'm not saying they aren't a bit overkill..I know I got reported and had content deleted for 'giving out (my) personal information'.
What did I give out? These..
http://ssb4dojo.com/ (To show where I learned some information)
and

To show that the Symbol on King Dedede's back was meant to be a Peace Sign and not a Bunny when someone asked why King Dedede had a Bunny Symbol on his back.

 

[Senario]

Oh man I loved taunt parties.

Taking on 3 people at the same time was always a rush.

Like a 70% win ratio for those damn things. I just wish that It was melee. Probably would of been a 95% win ratio.

Smash 4 looks like KO power will be better along with combo potential so if I come across one I'm gonna say a 80% win ratio for those things.

A win is a win. Show those taunt spamming people the meaning of playing smash bros lol.

 

[TheUltraDeino]

Let's see.....

Posts like "dat ***" and "I'm c*mming" still exist even when I reported them.

Not to be a tattle, but I wanted to see how well the admins work.

I was once banned for 2 weeks for.....probably getting the last comments every day in a row for a while.

I once had my picture of Midna deleted because it was deemed as "evil".

But Sakurai perversion and kiddie comments are fine.

Miiverse admins trash indeed.

I remember making lots of inappropriate suggestive-looking stuff using stamps from Mario 3D world, none of those pics were taken off or anything.

I only had 2 posts ever taken off of miiverse, one of them was a drawing of a poop in Nintendo Land dubbed "Best game ever!" at the pikmin minigame, but the other one was a joke post about Project M

That being said, being on topic, I wouldn't worry about the admins of a fighting game. Atleast I won't, 99/100 times I'm probably gonna be playing With Friends

 

[SS-bros14]

I remember making lots of inappropriate suggestive-looking stuff using stamps from Mario 3D world, none of those pics were taken off or anything.

I only had 2 posts ever taken off of miiverse, one of them was a drawing of a poop in Nintendo Land dubbed "Best game ever!" at the pikmin minigame, but the other one was a joke post about Project M

That being said, being on topic, I wouldn't worry about the admins of a fighting game. Atleast I won't, 99/100 times I'm probably gonna be playing With Friends

JSYK, that Project M post was taken off probably because the admins count Project M as criminal activity.

 

[TheUltraDeino]

JSYK, that Project M post was taken off probably because the admins count Project M as criminal activity.

Yeah, it was. I just think that it's funny how the admins think any mention of Project M, and, hell, even mentioning PM is criminal activity

 

[SS-bros14]

Yeah, it was. I just think that it's funny how the admins think any mention of Project M, and, hell, even mentioning PM is criminal activity

Yeah, some people have even just said the word 'Project' and the admins think it's Project M.

 

[LancerStaff]

Yeah, it was. I just think that it's funny how the admins think any mention of Project M, and, hell, even mentioning PM is criminal activity

Project M is technically illegal, and they'll erase any mention of modding/hacking/etceteras, even modding old Xbox games. I'd guess they're just trying to cover their legal rears by doing this.

 

[Gidy]

Miiverse admins allow MiiverseAfterDark

Deletes baseless comments on a game

Seems legit

I'm glad that Smashboards exists. Only thing I did on Miiverse was go in to the Smash section for the Miiverse pictures but since they are uploaded here I haven't gone to Miiverse in months.

 

[Gidy]

Project M is technically illegal, and they'll erase any mention of modding/hacking/etceteras, even modding old Xbox games. I'd guess they're just trying to cover their legal rears by doing this.

Illegal? Hacking a game isn't illegal.

 

[DevaAshera]

Illegal? Hacking a game isn't illegal.

It isn't illegal, but its in a legal gray area.
According to the Software Rights of Video Games, you don't actually own the game at all. By purchasing a Video Game you, from a legal standpoint, are actually just purchasing a license to use said product on the system(s) it was created for.
Any alteration of said Game is a legal gray area because while its not actually harming the Company in any way (usually, since Cracks are a thing for PC Software to by-pass Anti-Piracy Measures), it is altering the Software that you, from a legal standpoint, don't actually own and only hold license to use.

Some companies, such as Valve, openly allow Modding and Hacking of their games, some, such as Nintendo, and Japanese companies in General, are far more adverse to it in general.

Now I love Mods and Hacks. Whether its something as awesome as Project M or as just-for-fun as using Princess Zelda in Left 4 Dead 2 or playing any character on any stage in Sonic Adventure 2, but its something you must be very careful with.

 

[Gidy]

It isn't illegal, but its in a legal gray area.
According to the Software Rights of Video Games, you don't actually own the game at all. By purchasing a Video Game you, from a legal standpoint, are actually just purchasing a license to use said product on the system(s) it was created for.
Any alteration of said Game is a legal gray area because while its not actually harming the Company in any way (usually, since Cracks are a thing for PC Software to by-pass Anti-Piracy Measures), it is altering the Software that you, from a legal standpoint, don't actually own and only hold license to use.

Some companies, such as Valve, openly allow Modding and Hacking of their games, some, such as Nintendo, and Japanese companies in General, are far more adverse to it in general.

Now I love Mods and Hacks. Whether its something as awesome as Project M or as just-for-fun as using Princess Zelda in Left 4 Dead 2 or playing any character on any stage in Sonic Adventure 2, but its something you must be very careful with.

I think Nintendo doesn't mind the modding, as no action is taken against them. From past experience it seems they are most worried about people using their characters without permission. Examples of this are them shutting down Pokemon MMOs and claiming youtube videos for money.

 

[PingPongCop]

So, 'Hi, I'm new here.' Is a stupid post?

Yes, very.

 

[StarLight42]

You're mixing up the authenticity and credibility of moderators on a social platform for children with those getting paid to supervise online content in a game played by millions.

I never knew "hi, i'm new here" was so offensive to children.

 

[DevaAshera]

I think Nintendo doesn't mind the modding, as no action is taken against them. From past experience it seems they are most worried about people using their characters without permission. Examples of this are them shutting down Pokemon MMOs and claiming youtube videos for money.

They likely having taken action as Project M hasn't actually harmed the sales of Super Smash Bros at all, if anything, it improved the sales of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, since the disc is required to run the game and the PM Team directly stated they will not create a version that works without it. Since they'd tried to stay on Nintendo's good side as best as possible, they haven't run afoul of them.

The problem though is that Nintendo can not officially recognize nor condone Project M as then we get into the sticky Copyright Law issues. From what I've learned from my connections at Capcom, while Fan Works can be Amazing and they may even love them, if they are seen acknowledging them then Copyright Lawyers could claim they aren't actively 'protecting' their IPs as they are letting a 3rd Party use their copyrights without direct legal permission. If they then do not come down on said project with a Cease & Desist Order, then they risk losing their IPs to the Public Domain. I can't pretend to understand why that is, but it is how it works.

So, in essence, by Nintendo fervently deleting any mention on MiiVerse of Project M and refusing to even acknowledge its existance, they are actually Protecting the team, in a way, as if it was brought up in court that Project M was mentioned and allowed to be discussed on Nintendo's official social network and that Nintendo had knowledge of the Mods existance, they would either have to issue a Cease and Desist Order to the Project M Team or run the risk of not only losing the rights to Super Smash Bros, but also possibly the rights to all the characters/series contained in said game, none of which Nintendo would even allow to be risked

 

[Ellipsis]

They likely having taken action as Project M hasn't actually harmed the sales of Super Smash Bros at all, if anything, it improved the sales of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, since the disc is required to run the game and the PM Team directly stated they will not create a version that works without it. Since they'd tried to stay on Nintendo's good side as best as possible, they haven't run afoul of them.

The problem though is that Nintendo can not officially recognize nor condone Project M as then we get into the sticky Copyright Law issues. From what I've learned from my connections at Capcom, while Fan Works can be Amazing and they may even love them, if they are seen acknowledging them then Copyright Lawyers could claim they aren't actively 'protecting' their IPs as they are letting a 3rd Party use their copyrights without direct legal permission. If they then do not come down on said project with a Cease & Desist Order, then they risk losing their IPs to the Public Domain. I can't pretend to understand why that is, but it is how it works.

So, in essence, by Nintendo fervently deleting any mention on MiiVerse of Project M and refusing to even acknowledge its existance, they are actually Protecting the team, in a way, as if it was brought up in court that Project M was mentioned and allowed to be discussed on Nintendo's official social network and that Nintendo had knowledge of the Mods existance, they would either have to issue a Cease and Desist Order to the Project M Team or run the risk of not only losing the rights to Super Smash Bros, but also possibly the rights to all the characters/series contained in said game, none of which Nintendo would even allow to be risked

You are thinking of trademark law. Copyright can't be lost that way.

 

[Saikyoshi]

Reports on Miiverse are immediately hidden until reviewed after being reported, and restored if the report is baseless. The admins aren't nearly as ban-happy as everyone seems to think.

 

[DevaAshera]

You are thinking of trademark law. Copyright can't be lost that way.

Then I meant Trademarks..I get the terms mixed up often since they are quite similar.

 

[R0Y]

Let's see.....

Posts like "dat ***" and "I'm c*mming" still exist even when I reported them.

Not to be a tattle, but I wanted to see how well the admins work.

I was once banned for 2 weeks for.....probably getting the last comments every day in a row for a while.

I once had my picture of Midna deleted because it was deemed as "evil".

But Sakurai perversion and kiddie comments are fine.

Miiverse admins trash indeed.

Yeah...I had a relevant comment about racing the staff ghosts Mario Kart 8...removed for being irrelevant...meanwhile...

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

I have hundreds of posts on Miiverse and the admins have never bothered me.

From my view, the only people that get banned are the ones that don't used Miiverse for what it's intended for (like talking about your new pet cat on the Smash community), or just breaking the rules.

You're supposed to talk about games, that's all. Not the crisis in the middle east or the latest episode of Arrow.

This is more of a Miiverse rant now, and I'm sure that you don't ever do any of that. The admins aren't bad though, they're just doing their job. Too many people treat Miiverse as Facebook or Twiiter. They think they can post whatever they want. That's not what Miiverse is for.

 

[R0Y]

I have hundreds of posts on Miiverse and the admins have never bothered me.

From my view, the only people that get banned are the ones that don't used Miiverse for what it's intended for (like talking about your new pet cat on the Smash community), or just breaking the rules.

You're supposed to talk about games, that's all. Not the crisis in the middle east or the latest episode of Arrow.

This is more of a Miiverse rant now, and I'm sure that you don't ever do any of that. The admins aren't bad though, they're just doing their job. Too many people treat Miiverse as Facebook or Twiiter. They think they can post whatever they want. That's not what Miiverse is for.

Posting "Beating the staff ghosts on all 32 tracks in Time Trials gives you the gold tires!" the day of launch is not irrelevant. I think I even marked it with a spoiler.

Posting about Goku in the Smash community is...

The Miiverse admins are terrible.

 

[SS-bros14]

Posting "Beating the staff ghosts on all 32 tracks in Time Trials gives you the gold tires!" the day of launch is not irrelevant. I think I even marked it with a spoiler.

Posting about Goku in the Smash community is...

The Miiverse admins are terrible.

Not to mention, even if it was a spoiler they will just mark it as spoiler instead of deleting it.