what if Nintindo and Sony teamed up to make the ultimate Super Smash Bros.

[Tiny Tiger]

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with Nintindo and Sony teaming up for the 3D,would it be to imposible for them to team up for this,think of all the all-stars that would be on the game then,you would have cloud,sora,and maybe even kratos,it would be even easier to add crash bandicoot&spyro then

 

[Fatmanonice]

The problem with this is that the only franchise Sony directly owns is God of War so their side would have to depend almost exclusively on third parties. You have also to deal with which platforms it would release on and the sheer amount of liscensing red tape all the companies involved would have to go through to make this work. It's a cool idea, for sure, but it's incredibly impractical just because of what all would have to be done.

 

[Jim Morrison]

That's not Sony that's Square, Namco, Insomniac, and so forth.

 

[Purtle]

well fatmanonice covered pretty much anything I was going to say .-.

Thanks a lot :I

 

[Tiny Tiger]

and i understand that,but this is what im saying,it would be easier to get these characters on th game,like crash and spyro are on both Nintindo and Sony,so if it worked with both,then it wold make it that much easier to get them into smash,and as far as platforms go,it could be like soul calibur4 where for x-box it had yoda,and PS3 it had darth Vader,Nintindo would keep a certain character and Sony would keep one for their version is basically what im saying

 

[finalark]

Yeah, getting 3rd Party characters into your games is harder than you think. Plus seeing how Sony is competing with Nintendo that would be pretty much impractical.

And the thing with Soul Calibur is that Yoda and Vader are both owned by Lucas Film/Arts, making things much easier.

I'd rather see a DC VS. Marvel Platformer Fighter, personally.

 

[Reapereater]

The character's in Sony's line of games are too complicated. It'll just end in a war to having Cloud or Sephiroth in game. Then finally they gotta decide on the name... Super Smash Bros or Soul Calibur with platforms pretty much.

 

[Tiny Tiger]

what im saying with soul calibur is that nintindo would keep mario or someone,and sony would keep someone,and there would be a reason to buy both games,just like soul calibur did,and it would be just as hard for marvel and dc to team up with their rivalry,if not harder,than for nintindo and sony

 

[finalark]

Cloud or Sephiroth

Attention: These are not Sony Characters.

 

[Tiny Tiger]

exactly,they are third party,and i understand how hard it is,but without a system to put the third party characters on,then they are useless,they need a system to be put on to make the game,and i said they team up to make a super smash bros game,not a soul calibur,so their would be no arguement in the name,basically what im saying,is sony helps make the super smash bros game

 

[UberMario]

No, that wouldn't work, because SONY doesn't own those characters.

Square Enix owns:
Cloud
Sepiroth

Namco owns:
-Soul Caliber (already has a Nintendo game)

Naughty Dog/Traveller's Tales/Radical Entertainment "owns":
Crash Bandicoot (who has already appeared on Nintendo systems at least ten times)
Spyro (Also appeared on Nintendo systems already)


Sony owns very few game series, probably the only one that could be truly considered owned by them is Gran Turismo, but it's still developed outside of Sony.



And how are they teaming up? Nintendo's making a handheld that totally killed Sony's idea in every way, shape, and form. (Have to buy 3D Glasses, a 3D Tv, plus 3D hardware, yeah . . no)

what im saying with soul calibur is that nintindo would keep mario or someone,and sony would keep someone,and there would be a reason to buy both games,just like soul calibur did,and it would be just as hard for marvel and dc to team up with their rivalry,if not harder,than for nintindo and sony

Soul Caliber ALREADY HAS a Nintendo system game (Soul Caliber II), and that has Link in it. And Nintendo and Sony will only be allies once one of them falls, just like with Sega. They've been rivals ever since Sony made overly large demands from Nintendo when Sony was asked by them to help make a CD-based system, (which is the reason the Playstation exists, and the CDi, Nintendo went with Phillips in order to try to harm Sony after the previous fiasco).

exactly,they are third party,and i understand how hard it is,but without a system to put the third party characters on,then they are useless,they need a system to be put on to make the game,and i said they team up to make a super smash bros game,not a soul calibur,so their would be no arguement in the name,basically what im saying,is sony helps make the super smash bros game

Sony's help is useless if the [3rd party] brands don't openly come or are paid, since NOT A SINGLE one of the characters or games mentioned (Soul Caliber, Final Fantasy, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro) are owned by them, and most have had as many or more games available on a Nintendo system than ones that are Sony-exclusive. (Except Soul Caliber, but that still has one Nintendo release)

Unlike Nintendo, Sony owns [in the vaguest sense] MAYBE 10 [few except GT which are of any note] series total, if that. They thrive on 3rd Party software.

 

[Tiny Tiger]

OMG,forget soul calibur,it was a example,it has nothing to do with it,i know soul calibur has been on nintindo,it was an example,and the game informer mag mentions that they teamed up for the 3D stuff,and once again,i know they are third party characters,they have been on both systems,therefore it will be easier to put crash on they game if nintindo and sony work together

 

[UberMario]

,therefore it will be easier to put crash on they game if nintindo and sony work together

Third-party Developers won't care if Sony AND Nintendo make it if they already are on both systems, they'll go to either one. I would say different ten years ago, where Crash Bandicoot and Spyro were to Sony as Game Freak [Pokemon] is to Nintendo [they used to be on Sega systems before they made Pokemon], but it is quite obvious at this point in time none of those companies really care what system they are on if it can process what they want to make. If the makers of Crash and Spyro wanted to add their characters to Smash, they would have done so by now like the maker of Metal Gear did, but they haven't so it's no more likely if Sony was added that they'd get in, especially since Sony has nothing positive to give to Nintendo that wouldn't be totally cancelled by royalties. As for Soul Caliber, expect that when Pac-Man gets in, that would be the highest chance of it's entry in some form. Final Fantasy might have a legitimate shot at being in since Square Enix has been more open about making 3D games such as Kingdom Hearts for Nintendo systems in the past decade. (though contrary to popular belief they never really left Nintendo)

 

[Tiny Tiger]

i have a feeling that they were waiting for smash to get bigger,just like sonic just got added,and im only using soul calibur as a example to where the other comment said they would have to decide on a platform,i could care less about soul calibur getting on smash,and if sony was involved,then they would be able to pay more,and basically,Kratos would be possible to join,without all they gore of course

 

[finalark]

just like sonic just got added,

Sega didn't agree to put Sonic in because they didn't think the Smash franchise was "big enough" at the time of Melee. Back in 2001 Sega was still in the console market (although only barely) and would have never agree to let one of their characters into a Nintendo game. The only reason why Sonic was in Brawl was because of some stupid April fools joke pulled years ago.

 

[Tiny Tiger]

then you proved my point,sonic didnt join because sega didnt think it was big enough,crash and spyro are most likely doing the same,idk if spyro will be in the next game,but i see the strong possibilty of crash being on the next smash game,how bout this,what do you all DBZ joining,just goku for the first one?

 

[finalark]

sonic didnt join because sega didnt think it was big enough,

At this point, I really should be above doing this sort of thing but...

Did you even read my post? Did you...

... I'm doing a **** find job at feeding the troll here.

 

[Darkslash]

then you proved my point,sonic didnt join because sega didnt think it was big enough,crash and spyro are most likely doing the same,idk if spyro will be in the next game,but i see the strong possibilty of crash being on the next smash game,how bout this,what do you all DBZ joining,just goku for the first one?

Okay first and foremost, Sonic didn't join SSB becuase Sega was still in the console market, not becuase SSB "wasn't big". They aren't any more, and Sonic is practically a 3rd party character now, so no one gives 2 ****'s about what console Sonic is in. Snake was supposed to be in Melee but didn't get in becuase of time constraints, and I doubt Kojima would put his prized character into a game that wasn't "big" enough. I doubt Crash, Spyro or Goku would be in the next SSB. Like stuff that has been repeated over and over again, it's going to turn into development hell.

You just can't put characters into a game just becuase the developer feels like.

 

[Tiny Tiger]

yes i read your post,did you read the one i posted before you camr back into it?i said crash and spyro were waiting for smah to get bigger,therefore,you saying sonic didnt join because sega didnt think smash was big enough was proving my whole point!

 

[Tiny Tiger]

look,the creators of ssbb said they added sonic because everyone wanted him,hes third party,just like crash and spyro are,everyone is asking for crash now,hes third party,and is making plenty of games with Nintindo,therefore,its just as likely that crash will join as it was for sonic to join

 

[finalark]

yes i read your post,did you read the one i posted before you camr back into it?i said crash and spyro were waiting for smah to get bigger,therefore,you saying sonic didnt join because sega didnt think smash was big enough was proving my whole point!

Crash and Spyro will never be in smash because they're reputations were destroyed shortly after their original trilogies on the PS1.

I didn't say that Sega didn't think Smash was big enough, I said that Sega was competing with Nintendo at the time of Smash 64 and Melee's release meaning that there was no way in hell that they would ever put one of their characters into the game.

Actually, can you tell me what this is and what it's significance is?

leveryone is asking for crash now

lolololololololol

 

[Tiny Tiger]

Sega didn't agree to put Sonic in because they didn't think the Smash franchise was "big enough" at the time of Melee.

looks to me like you did say it wasnt big enough,and crash and spyro arent as big as they were,but the fact remains that the fans want them on brawl.

 

[Tiny Tiger]

and as far as you laughing at that,look at the wish list for the next smash all over the internet,crash is on almost everyone of them,just because you think crash isnt good anymore,dont mean everyone else thinks the same

 

[finalark]

looks to me like you did say it wasnt big enough,

Oh hey, look at that. I accidentally forgot to put one word in there so that obviously means that I meant what you want me to despite the fact that I've been doing nothing but arguing the opposite. Here, let me fix my post:

Sega didn't agree to put Sonic in NOT because they didn't think the Smash franchise was "big enough" at the time of Melee. Back in 2001 Sega was still in the console market (although only barely) and would have never agree to let one of their characters into a Nintendo game. The only reason why Sonic was in Brawl was because of some stupid April fools joke pulled years ago.

Now read it. And don't stop at the end of one sentence, try finishing the whole thing.

and crash and spyro arent as big as they were,but the fact remains that the fans want them on brawl.

Correction: You want them in Brawl. I don't think I have ever seen anyone else ask for them to appear in the next smash game.

and as far as you laughing at that,look at the wish list for the next smash all over the internet,crash is on almost everyone of them,just because you think crash isnt good anymore,dont mean everyone else thinks the same

The edit button is your friend. And how about some links there?

 

[Tiny Tiger]

then just look up the wish list for the next game,and maybe read them and you will see crash,or go to youtube,one guy even made a move set for crash on it,and yes ill admit that id love for crash to be on the game, ive been playing games since i was 4,im a classic gamer,and new games wont change my opinion,id rather play the original mario than halo,you just let some new game thats no good change your opinion

 

[finalark]

then just look up the wish list for the next game,and maybe read them and you will see crash,or go to youtube,one guy even made a move set for crash on it,and yes ill admit that id love for crash to be oeen playing games since i was 4,im a classic gamer,and new games wont change my opinion,id rather play the original mario than halo,you just let some new game thats no good change your opinion

Whatever. This argument is going in circles with you refusing to acknowledge anything except for your own viewpoint. I've had enough of your insane troll logic, I'm out of here.

And lol at calling the PS1 "classic."

 

[Tiny Tiger]

classic for sony,it was the start,and by classic,i was referring to NES,witch i started playing wen i was 4 years old,that is what i was calling classic,and it aint me that is going on and on,your the one who determined that crash sucks,not me

 

[Darkslash]

classic for sony,it was the start,and by classic,i was referring to NES,witch i started playing wen i was 4 years old,that is what i was calling classic,and it aint me that is going on and on,your the one who determined that crash sucks,not me

Looking calling your self a classic gamer doesn't hold water around here parts. Spyro and Crash have both past their expiration dates and are now just former shadows of them selves.

And please, if you're going to call out stuff, post links. I want to see these fan lists and this youtube video.

 

[Teran]

Nintendo is the only videogame company with a large roster of iconic videogame characters exclusive to its systems.

 

[Tiny Tiger]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=crash+bandicoot+in+brawl&aq=2 there is your link to just one of the youtube vidios

 

[Tiny Tiger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1sScvlZOn4 another one for you

 

[Tiny Tiger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IpUOehAsNw&feature=related and another

 

[Apollo$]

I don't really see how fan videos like that could make that much of a difference really

 

[Tiny Tiger]

never said they did,he asked for them,so i gave them,it proves other ppl want crash on the game,other than myself

 

[Tiny Tiger]

http://www.listal.com/list/super-smash-bros-wishlist wishlist #1

 

[Tiny Tiger]

you dont like crash either apollo$?

 

[UberMario]

Very few people actually want them in really (and pretty much everyone knows that an anime character like Goku has a 99.99999% chance of not coming in because, well, they aren't video game characters. And before you say it, the Pokemon anime came AFTER the video games, not the other way around as with Bleach, Beyblade, Digimon, DBZ, etc.)

If you look at most lists, the five most wanted 3rd Party characters are pretty much:

-Megaman (Easily the most wanted not to get in)
-Tails (Sonic the Hedgehog)
-Knuckles (Sonic the Hedgehog)
-Ryu (Street Fighter)
-Pacman (Pacman >_>)

Rarely do I see any demand for Spyro, Crash, or Goku, especially the latter, however, if you've always wanted to see them duke it out you could always play Mugen.

 

[Tiny Tiger]

i never sid they didnt want them,i was just saying that people want crash,and actually,ive seen crash on more list then ryu,ive seen hundreds of list this year with crash on it,but i gave the proof to him that he asked for,and i hardly see anyone ask for spyro or goku either,thos are two id like to see,but i see alot ask for crash,and yes megaman is asked for more than any other,but as faher play as crash,because thesooner crash gets on,the sooner the possibility of me playing as tiny against bowser

 

[Tiny Tiger]

and thats the character that i myself really want on there,and i know it wont happen,but id love to see sega put earthworm jim on smash,thats just my opinion though

 

[Tiny Tiger]

Looking calling your self a classic gamer doesn't hold water around here parts.

and dude,you dont know me,ive been playing games my whole life,i could care less if you dont believe me,all i know is there aint too many classic games i havnt played and beat,including the smash franchise,and mario franchise,and ill call myself a classic gamer on my blog if i wish to