ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
why dont they put shiek into brawl. I mean i am awesome with her. She is my best character.
Dont ask why. I dont know the answer
Dont ask why. I dont know the answer
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We Want Shiek
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Lgndknight
Smash Ace
can you say "I only play with high tier characters cuz my friends all do." I beat all my Marth and Shiek friends with Green-Headband Jigglypuff AKA Shinobi-Ryu-Kage. your opinion isn't universal, and so your meager list of supporters, as well as the lack of your search function abilities, makes this topic more closeable than a door.
vesperview
Smash Hero
I love how every Sheik fan only wants her back cause she is "awesome".
I've been waiting for a good argument to include Sheik in Brawl for weeks, but that's the best every Sheik fan can come up with.
I've been waiting for a good argument to include Sheik in Brawl for weeks, but that's the best every Sheik fan can come up with.
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
i will give you an arguement
first off she has one of the most controllable bounce-backs (i cant think of the word right now) also she has the range attack that does good damage, plus she is one of the fastest, PLUS she has the chain that you dont have to redo over and over again
first off she has one of the most controllable bounce-backs (i cant think of the word right now) also she has the range attack that does good damage, plus she is one of the fastest, PLUS she has the chain that you dont have to redo over and over again
vesperview
Smash Hero
Well then be my guest.
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
i just did
vesperview
Smash Hero
You're giving me an argument? Do you even know what an argument is?
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
i will give you an arguement
first off she has one of the most controllable bounce-backs (i cant think of the word right now) also she has the range attack that does good damage, plus she is one of the fastest, PLUS she has the chain that you dont have to redo over and over again
thast my argument
what is urs?
first off she has one of the most controllable bounce-backs (i cant think of the word right now) also she has the range attack that does good damage, plus she is one of the fastest, PLUS she has the chain that you dont have to redo over and over again
thast my argument
what is urs?
Lgndknight
Smash Ace
so your "arguement" is giving an example of a shiek combo? or whatever you can call that.thats not arguing, thats presenting new information, you need a second opposition/rebuttle attitude now. I'm in a debate class, I KNOW what an arguement, and what presenting new infromation is.
vesperview
Smash Hero
Oh, so you're saying Sheik should return because she does good damage and she is fast? That's not a reason.
Counter argument, any character can have a good moveset, do good damage and be fast.
Sheik is the most overrated Zelda character ever.
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
then what is your character, mario? hes only in the game cause its based off of him, he sucks, all the returning caracters are lame besides dk, fox and bowser, also link is good thats about it
and after that shiek also has one of the best power combos because one leads right into another, plus another reason they need shiek is because zelda sucks alone, with shiek you have a way more chance of winning
and after that shiek also has one of the best power combos because one leads right into another, plus another reason they need shiek is because zelda sucks alone, with shiek you have a way more chance of winning
vesperview
Smash Hero
Oh my God! opinions, just opinions.
Ok, here is why Sheik shouldn't return:
- Outdated
- Overrated
- Irrelevant to the Zelda series at present time.
- Twilight Princess is taking precedence in Brawl over OoT
What do you got?
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
out dated, over rated? MARIO FOR GODS SAKE is way more outdated than shiek! and might i ask what snake is doing, falco? what do they have to do with the game. NOTHING!!
vesperview
Smash Hero
Mario outdated? Oh I forgot Mario Galaxy has just come out as well as Metal Gear Solid 4, not to mention Star Fox Command just came out last year, now where the hell is Sheik? nowhere since 1998, brilliant.
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
touche....dang your good, good point... but mario just keeps on coming out with new crap, will he ever die!!!
probably not
probably not
Lgndknight
Smash Ace
... wait a minute... Mario sucks? did I just hear you type, Mario sucks? Mario... sucks? nonono sir, you've crossed the line, nobody insults Mario and types without thinking about it.
Mario's positives vs. Shiek, Final round
Mario has...
A reflecting move, that turns people around, better than a chain that leaves you open for punishment....
A vB, that obvious, more moves.
A meteor smash, that's always good.
Better ^B, goes higher, less lag
doesn't need to sweetspot Usmash or dashing attack
Balance
not especially good at anything, but not especially bad at anything either
good airspeed.
Shiek has...
Speed, that's a given
Pretty quick attacks
Horrid B moves
Double hit Fsmash
Usmash that doesn't work when your opponent is on the ground (Mario's does)
laggy Utilt
laggy Dsmash
lacking throws
lacking upB
Godd combo ability, I'll give you that
requires opponent to be in the air for a kill, no ground killmoves
a good player has very few useable moves, making for a losing battle from a strategy point of view
Mario's positives vs. Shiek, Final round
Mario has...
A reflecting move, that turns people around, better than a chain that leaves you open for punishment....
A vB, that obvious, more moves.
A meteor smash, that's always good.
Better ^B, goes higher, less lag
doesn't need to sweetspot Usmash or dashing attack
Balance
not especially good at anything, but not especially bad at anything either
good airspeed.
Shiek has...
Speed, that's a given
Pretty quick attacks
Horrid B moves
Double hit Fsmash
Usmash that doesn't work when your opponent is on the ground (Mario's does)
laggy Utilt
laggy Dsmash
lacking throws
lacking upB
Godd combo ability, I'll give you that
requires opponent to be in the air for a kill, no ground killmoves
a good player has very few useable moves, making for a losing battle from a strategy point of view
vesperview
Smash Hero
Compare Mario to Sheik? Is that even necessary? lol!
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
you think that do you, well might i add that sheik does have ground kills, for one she kicks and your gone her >b attack kicks you and your gone and the up smash does work when your on the ground. Have you ever played with her? You obviously havent because it does work
ArcNatural
Banned ( ∫x, δx Points)
Ike your arguments are very weak. This is probably the best argument to why Sheik should return.
Sheik had one of the most easiest combo setups and edgegaurd setups. Needles excellent at forcing your opponent to approach, ridiculous grab range along with Marth, also and excellent spot dodge. She also has great recovery, throws, dash attack, and speed.
Rather than make a new character go through the hatred of being too broken, might as well put Sheik back in the same exact way.
Sheik had one of the most easiest combo setups and edgegaurd setups. Needles excellent at forcing your opponent to approach, ridiculous grab range along with Marth, also and excellent spot dodge. She also has great recovery, throws, dash attack, and speed.
Rather than make a new character go through the hatred of being too broken, might as well put Sheik back in the same exact way.
vesperview
Smash Hero
Gameplay has nothing to do with Sheik's return... she isn't my main, I actually always felt she was irrelevant in Melee, even Skull Kid would have made more sense at the time than Sheik, Sheik did nothing in OoT other than throw Deku Nuts and play a harp, how is that important?
error_alt_delete
Smash Champion
she is everyones best character...
OK?...so what?
what argument? I dont see one.
umm...so you think only the characters you like deserve to be in? you arnt going to last long in these threads my friend if this is your way of thinking...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAH mario is out dated HAHAHHAHAAH!!!.....are you seriously saying that?!?!??!!
snake is in because konami begged for his entry plus hes WAY more known than sheik!!!
falco is another star fox rep thats why!(plus he was the second most known star fox character at the time).
ArcNatural
Banned ( ∫x, δx Points)
Didn't I win this thread?
Lgndknight
Smash Ace
you need to sweet spot and make the CHHK sound for it to kill anybody, her >b has little knockback, and lots of lag, and which kick can kill you at a reasonable percent? which one? certainly not her >smash, you could practically have a tea party with that kind of lag, and two hit moves are bad....so can you give me what ground moves kill at percents below 100?
my personal vendetta with high-tier abusers causes me to research them, which is why I enjoy Bowser-ing and Jigglypuffing all my friends who go off the tier list for characters, and why I quit using Marth.
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
idk know why its important but why is luigi in melee and brawl all hes done is mario kart and luigis mansion, why is he in? hes irrelevant also arcnatural ive pretty well stated that though this entire thread
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
idk know why its important but why is luigi in melee and brawl all hes done is mario kart and luigis mansion, why is he in? hes irrelevant also arcnatural ive pretty well stated that though this entire thread
vesperview
Smash Hero
No, I love how Sheik's fans use her unique moveset and fast overpowered abilities to make people think she is a shoe-in, in Brawl, Sheik would really have 0 chance if she wasn't in Melee.
All he's done is Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion? You need to check your facts there lol.
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
what else has he done, please tell me besides gba games which are pointless and lgndknight what character can kill with a smash at 100 percent, certainly not any character that has killed me besides giga bowser
vesperview
Smash Hero
Mario Bros. Super Mario World, Mario Is Missing, Mario Kart series, Mario Party series, Mario Tennis, Mario Strikers, how can you compare Luigi to Sheik? Is ridiculous
LemonKing
Smash Journeyman
What are you like 10?
The reason that you want sheik in is because you probably main her. Sheik is one of the easiest characters to play simply because of the fact that she has so much combo ability. She is basically a walking combo machine and a crippled man in a wheelchair could win as her.
All of your arguments are idiotic. Luigi is an icon in the Mario Gaming world, and as a matter of fact is playable as a character in Galaxy. Shiek has not been in a game since 1998 and the only reason you want her in is because she is "kool dude".
Get a life. If that's the best argument you can come up with then that's disgusting. Comparing her to other characters that deserve to be in also isn't helping you.
Sheik doesn't deserve to come back.
error_alt_delete
Smash Champion
GTFO of my internets!!!!
you insulted mario AND luigi, you my
luigi has been in WAY more games then two, I dont know what made you think other wise.
get your facts straight before you come back!
LemonKing
Smash Journeyman
Even if this is a double post I have to get this out here.
You are quite possibly the biggest, idiotic scrub that I have ever seen. Take Bowser and set the opponent to 100% and hit them with a charged up Forward Smash. Take Falco and hit him with a forward smash as well.
It is obvious that you know nothing about Melee.
Lgndknight
Smash Ace
With a smash at 100%, you leave yourself open here, Mario's >smash can kill at 100%, obviously Bowser's F-smash can kill at like 65%, fully charged, Link's >smash can kill at 100%, Bowser's vsmash can kill at 100%, Ganon's and falcon's Down and Usmashes can kill at 100%, Jigg's >smash can kill at 100%, Peach's d-smash kills at 100%, Marth's tipper kills at 100%, the list goes on!
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
luigi hasnt had one of his own games in how many years, i know sheik hasnt but thats pointless too and now im not 10 and if oyur like 20 you have no life so if you are GET A LIFE AND A GIRLFRIEND and i dont main her cause my main is link but shiek is easy how do you expect to win, use the worst guy like dr. mario?
Stryks
Smash Hero
... SO? Should falco stay as a clone JUST because hes top tier? OBCOURSE NOT, shiek is now a minor character to the series as a whole, and zelda has her TP design, TP zelda =/= OoT zelda, TP doesnt have the training to become a shiekah...
UBER FAIL
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
you guys do know that im doing this to piss u off
haha losers
haha losers
vesperview
Smash Hero
Nice comeback? hahahaha, why the hell are you arguing Sheik's capability in Melee to have her in Brawl? You're the most biased Sheik fan i've seen.
LemonKing
Smash Journeyman
You reak of fail. Such hardcore fail that you make me want to find a pregnant women and punch her multiple times in the stomach.
Luigi was in a game that was released ONE WEEK AGO! Sheik hasn't been in a game for 9 YEARS!
Are you ********?
ikelegend93
Smash Apprentice
like i said im doing it to piss the **** out of queer bags like you guys who have no life
wow im good
haha i laugh at you all!
wow im good
haha i laugh at you all!
Lgndknight
Smash Ace
doc is the worst? I'm beginning to doubt your knowledge of smash in general, honestly, and I'll restate the tier-buster over and over
repeat after me..(ahem)
A good (insert bad, low tier character here) beats a (insert high tier,fast character here) any day.
take gimpy, using bowser. bowser is low on the tier list, gimpy can beat people high on the tier list.
good low beats bad high
Your Hero
Smash Champion
Hmm.. That's a tad strange. The fact that Kind Dedede, Diddy Kong and Pit are in kind of proves you wrong (maybe not King Dedede; I'm not sure). They weren't in any recent games that I know of and weren't even in melee, but they made it in.
Even Ice climbers are in. According to what you say, Ice Climbers should not have made it in. He was barely known, unless if you had a Snes or whichever system he came from. I only found out about him from melee, same as I found out about Pit and even Sheik.
Lol Doc was my fav :[, I found it much more fun to be a docter throwing pills rather than a plumber throwing fireballs lol
Wow real mature. We go on the threads just to have fun debates, not have to deal with you.
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