We Like IKE! Or do we...

[Ryan.]

Do you think Ike's Final Smash, Great Aether, will return from Brawl? Would you like it to?

I'd like for it to return, personally. It was one of my favorites. Feel free to post any new final smash ideas if you have any.

Edit: Great Aether returns, with blue flames!

 

[Floor]

Just wanted to know everyone's thought's over Ike. This means Chrom, Lucina, and Robin and ect are limited. Do you think We'll get anyone else? I was thinking FE would get 3 reps, perhaps 2 being from Awakening. Looks like I'm wrong.

Discuss how Ike's confirmation affects the rest of the roster here.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Blue flames, please.

No bias.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

As a returning veteran, it doesn't. IMO.

 

[Morbi]

I agree with Lordling; Ike's inclusion doesn't really change anything. It was to be expected.

 

[Floor]

Yeah. I'd hope for something more powerful though. Great Aether looked GREAT visually. But did anyone realize it was weak?

 

[Ryan.]

I think it doesn't affect anyone's chances. I like the fact that he is back, personally. He's a good character.

 

[Cpt.]

I love that Ike is back. He is a really fun character to use. I just hope that he is a bit more like Project M Ike. I wouldn't say it hurts the chances of new FE reps though.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

There will still be one newcomer from FE fo sho.

I hope its not Chrom

 

[Deleted member]

Ike doesn't really affect anyone. It just shows that there is a likely outcome that there will be three Fire Emblem reps. He should have been expected due to his popularity; I can't see the "recency" or "relevancy" of Chrom force Ike to get cut.

 

[Floor]

Hmmm... I thought more people would share my view here. I definitly like him, I would just like more Awakening characters as well.

 

[Morbi]

Great Aether was my favorite Final Smash; the despair and joy when I am caught in it. I can't help but admire his body as he pounds away at me... with his sword.

 

[Ryan.]

Do you prefer Ike's new model (Radiant Dawn) over his Brawl one (Path of Radiance), or do you wish he looked more like he did in Brawl?

Here's a comparison.

Brawl:

Smash 4:

 

[Neo Zero]

Hmmm... I thought more people would share my view here. I definitly like him, I would just like more Awakening characters as well.

I don't know how many times it needs to be said. One character does not disconfirm another. Greninja and Lucario did not deconfirm Mewtwo, and Ike and Marth do not deconfirm Chrom. It's still entirely possible that one or more characters could come from Awakening, there are no max slots or game representation patterns or anything silly like that.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Manly Ike is best Ike.

 

[sunshinesan]

Something canon please.
Here's an idea. The Black Knight Spawns and Ike do battle with him, clashing everywhere and anyone getting in their way gets blasted away. Kinda like Kat & Ana or Latios & Latias Assist trophies in terms of how chaotic it is.
Or maybe Yune blesses him and he gets all blue and fiery, in which case it could be a transform Final Smash or then proceeds to blue flame Great Aether (I suppose, if they want it to fit.)
Or maybe Ashera comes out and turns everyone to stone, and Ike goes "Hello? Anybody?!"
Or maybe the Greil Mercenaries comes in and wrecks havoc similar to how Dedede's or Pit's old one worked.

 

[Morbi]

I also prefer "manly" Ike. It is a much better model, I wouldn't mind a costume for his Path of Radiance design. But I certainly prefer that Ike that actually looks like he can hold his sword.

 

[sunshinesan]

I don't know how many times it needs to be said. One character does not disconfirm another. Greninja and Lucario did not deconfirm Mewtwo, and Ike and Marth do not deconfirm Chrom. It's still entirely possible that one or more characters could come from Awakening, there are no max slots or game representation patterns or anything silly like that.

I agree that it's not concrete like that but ultimately any character cuts in on potential ones on the basis of limited resources used to create this game on a schedule.

 

[Ryan.]

Haha 11 to 0. I agree with you guys.

 

[Floor]

I don't know how many times it needs to be said. One character does not disconfirm another. Greninja and Lucario did not deconfirm Mewtwo, and Ike and Marth do not deconfirm Chrom. It's still entirely possible that one or more characters could come from Awakening, there are no max slots or game representation patterns or anything silly like that.

To a great extent yes. But it could get out of hand in certain situations. Imagine a game with 10 mario reps and a max of 5 for other games. I see your point here though. I wasn't positive Ike would return to be honest.

Sakurai said "not every character would return" Prior to Ike's confirmation, I was thinking of all of the possible cuts. ROB, Game and Watch, the veterans from melee and SSB would stay I thought... But I was thinking "Some have to be cut. Sakurai said so..." So I decided to put characters in my cut list that I otherwise wouldn't have put. Just because so many are staying. The list was...

1. Ike
2. Wolf(maybe)
3. Lucas
4. Meta Knight
5. Snake
6. Pkmn Trainer

6 characters isn't that many cuts in all reality.

 

[NintendoKnight]

If this poll happened a few years back, I would've voted on PoR's design. But now, RD's design has really grown on me, and I learned to appreciate it. Before he was revealed, I wanted him to have his RD Hero Class design. Which is exactly what I got, but it exceeded my expectations.

 

[Neo Zero]

To a great extent yes. But it could get out of hand in certain situations. Imagine a game with 10 mario reps and a max of 5 for other games. I see your point here though. I wasn't positive Ike would return to be honest.

Sakurai said "not every character would return" Prior to Ike's confirmation, I was thinking of all of the possible cuts. ROB, Game and Watch, the veterans from melee and SSB would stay I thought... But I was thinking "Some have to be cut. Sakurai said so..." So I decided to put characters in my cut list that I otherwise wouldn't have put. Just because so many are staying. The list was...

1. Ike
2. Wolf(maybe)
3. Lucas
4. Meta Knight
5. Snake
6. Pkmn Trainer

6 characters isn't that many cuts in all reality.

I think, on a personal suspicion, the cuts are going to be kept to an absolute minimum. No more Subspace alone frees up a lot of memory, the 3DS version which, iirc, is about the same max file size Brawl had has much less additional content such as songs and the like. It seems to me Sakurai is prioritizing the roster this time, and then building the rest around them.

 

[Another K-2L Survivor]

Wow, the vote is pretty unanimous so far. Things are hardly ever unanimous here. Not complaining though, LOVE the new look.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

The 3DS got Smash Run though.

 

[Morbi]

Wow, the vote is pretty unanimous so far. Things are hardly ever unanimous here. Not complaining though, LOVE the new look.

You can never deny objective fact, the Smash 4 model is just so much better. Someone with a different opinion will come eventually.

 

[Neo Zero]

The 3DS got Smash Run though.

Smash Run is no where near as extensive as Subspace. It also wont have the cutscenes which ate so much memory. A bigger factor is if the newcomer trailers will be put in the games however, I imagine they would, but again, I'm sure they're built in mind for all the characters surrounding them.

 

[Ryan.]

You can never deny objective fact, the Smash 4 model is just so much better. Someone with a different opinion will come eventually.

Haha I expect it sooner or later. Not that their opinion is wrong or anything. If everyone had the same opinions there would be not enough speculating.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

I'd like to see him whip out the good ole' Urvan and do some swinging action reminiscent of the Great Aether. With blue flames involved, obviously.

 

[Floor]

You can never deny objective fact, the Smash 4 model is just so much better. Someone with a different opinion will come eventually.

And here he is haha... It took me 5 minutes to decide though. I just thought SSBB Ike looks more agile (VERY DECIEVING) . I like agile swordsmen, and I hate swordsmen showing biceps...

 

[mini paincakes]

Manly Ike makes old Ike look puny in comparison.

 

[Starcutter]

I like Brawl's Design better, however, I do wish it was really high def for a more accurate comparison.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

They're both really hot.

 

[---]

If you want to talk about FE characters in general, please use this thread.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

If they even ****ing think of replacing one of the hypest Final Smashes in the game, they better just cancel the game now.

Blue Flames with actual color vibrance, and it's perfect.

Literally nothing else needed.

 

[Ryan.]

Haha YES different opinions. And I'd be curious to see how his Brawl model would look in HD.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

Has anyone noticed how they changed the shape of his eyes?

 

[Hong]

Ike in Brawl.

I never liked his depiction. He looked better in the Path of Radiance cutscenes, and even more so in Radiant Dawn. He is looking mighty handsome in Smash 4.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Yes, he's now berserking 24/7

Perfect

 

[Morbi]

And here he is haha... It took me 5 minutes to decide though. I just thought SSBB Ike looks more agile (VERY DECIEVING) . I like agile swordsmen, and I hate swordsmen showing biceps...

The Hound is an agile swordsman?! ---BREAKING NEWS---

I asked my sister; it literally took her 4 (more like three and a half) minutes to say, "maybe the Smash 4 version." She was really fond of Ike's model from Brawl, so I can relate with your hesitation (even if I do not share the sentiment).

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

PLEASE keep Great Aether, it was fun to use