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Wario Is going to be bottom tier

_kSo_

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I sincerely believe that wario is going to be bottom tier character. i mean think about it. his special is a freakin fart? what is that, c'mon. i think many of you will agree with me as well when i say this but I really think he is going to be a useless character
 

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Are you kidding? metaknight is going to be like kirby from ssb64

wario is the samus of brawl, except he'll be the size of DK
 

SuPeRbOoM

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wario cant bomb spam! although he can fart spam, its sort of like Wd'ing but its farting a lot u see? and ya fart = bombs which = hax

so fart bombs that can make you WD awesome
 

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omg he would do it soo well but it would be like fart slip and slide and omg fart recovery duuuude his motorbike is gonna roxor you
 

_kSo_

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DUDE he probably uses his bike for his up B like you kno how mario and luigi just do super punch, well wario probably takes out his bike and propels upward.

not only that, but he gets horizontal recovery by farting just like marth's sideb LOL
 

the grim lizard

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I'm glad you made an entire thread to clear this issue up. Thanks. :bigthumbu

I also love seeing all the huge sigs taking up the friggin' screen...
 

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I wasn't joking. You cant judge somebody for the tier list without even having played as them. It's dumb, really really dumb.

And the tier list is just how often people use the characters in tournaments, it doesn't really mean how powerful somebody is.

Just wait, we'll see.
 

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wtf are you talking about tier list is based on the speed, strength, recovery and combo ability of a certain character. sure, when it comes down to it, the player is what determines who wins, but the character is a big part of it too
 

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You're wrong.
ok where's YOUR end of the argument then? you say im wrong yet you don't post a counter argument. in my eyes that doesnt mean anything.

However I will say that you were right in the sense that you can't tell what a character is going to be like until you play them, but I stand firm on the subject on tiers and how they are determined.
 

Lupo Aro

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You can't make tier lists for games that aren't even out yet. Wait till the game comes out, then we can know the specs on Wario.
 

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...What?

Since when does the fact that Wario's down B is a fart have any impact on his ranking in the tiers? Isn't it more of how it works, than what it is, which determins this stuff?
 

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ok where's YOUR end of the argument then? you say im wrong yet you don't post a counter argument. in my eyes that doesnt mean anything.

However I will say that you were right in the sense that you can't tell what a character is going to be like until you play them, but I stand firm on the subject on tiers and how they are determined.
^^ i agree with KSO cuz he's leet

and yaya grim lizard got ownd
 

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tiers are based mostly on tournement play

i know that there are other things that factor in, but a lot of it comes down to tournament results
 

The Mark

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I love these threads.

Listen, until the game comes out. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about what the tiers will be.
 

_kSo_

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...What?

Since when does the fact that Wario's down B is a fart have any impact on his ranking in the tiers? Isn't it more of how it works, than what it is, which determins this stuff?
I'm using past history as a guide here. since when does something like that ever mean something serious? I mean look at game&watch, he's not a joke character but hes most definitely not high up in the tiers.

and I wasnt placing people in the tiers for this game i was simply taking a guess. god all you people do is flame lets try and act like civilized human beings
 

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wtf are you talking about tier list is based on the speed, strength, recovery and combo ability of a certain character. sure, when it comes down to it, the player is what determines who wins, but the character is a big part of it too
Tiers aren't soley based on how good characters play in the terms you mentioned, it's more how much people play as those characters. Bowser is at the bottom, because nobody plays as him in tournaments. Which is because he sucks.

But people who play by tiers are weak. You should play as characters you like, not ones who are good.

stop getting owned, noob

OMG a brawl noob
First you call him a noob, with no reasoning behind it. Then you call him a Brawl noob, a game that hasn't come out yet, so nobody has played it, so nobody can be classed as a noob. *******.
 

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I'm using past history as a guide here. since when does something like that ever mean something serious? I mean look at game&watch, he's not a joke character but hes most definitely not high up in the tiers.

and I wasnt placing people in the tiers for this game i was simply taking a guess. god all you people do is flame lets try and act like civilized human beings
No, it doesn't work that way. Wario has diffrent moves. He has diffrent statistics. He's not G&W's carbon copy. And taking a guess because Wario has one move that isn't serious, is no way predict. You could predict though if you knew how it worked, instead of the outward apperance.
 

the grim lizard

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I'm not going to validate your thread by giving you an explanation. Everyone else here has explained it very well. Tiers are based off of tournaments. Nuff said.

And you may as well said nothing to back it up because your "proof" was completely off the mark, primarily because THE GAME HASN'T COME OUT. So, yes, we will all get on anyone's case who makes a tier thread before Dec. 3.
 

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I'm not going to validate your thread by giving you an explanation. Everyone else here has explained it very well. Tiers are based off of tournaments. Nuff said.

And you may as well said nothing to back it up because your "proof" was completely off the mark, primarily because THE GAME HASN'T COME OUT. So, yes, we will all get on anyone's case who makes a tier thread before Dec. 3.
your just hatin, you ever think bout that?:mad::mad:
 

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No, it doesn't work that way. Wario has diffrent moves. He has diffrent statistics. He's not G&W's carbon copy. And taking a guess because Wario has one move that isn't serious, is no way predict. You could predict though if you knew how it worked, instead of the outward apperance.
Yes, he's not G&W's carbon copy and we can't base it off one move, I'll agree with you. I was taking a shot in the dark, which is what all you guys are doing with your "oh so and so is going to be in brawl" or "so and so has this final smash"

i was just making a statement. go yell at those other people making threads about what you think about a certain aspect of the game. Oh infact EVERYONE is taking a shot in the dark because AS YOU SAID, the game hasnt come out yet
 

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Yes, he's not G&W's carbon copy and we can't base it off one move, I'll agree with you. I was taking a shot in the dark, which is what all you guys are doing with your "oh so and so is going to be in brawl" or "so and so has this final smash"

i was just making a statement. go yell at those other people making threads about what you think about a certain aspect of the game. Oh infact EVERYONE is taking a shot in the dark because AS YOU SAID, the game hasnt come out yet
Nobody said anything about final smashes. We're not concrete saying WARIO ISN'T BOTTOM tier, all we said is there is no way to judge yet.
 

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wtf are you talking about tier list is based on the speed, strength, recovery and combo ability of a certain character. sure, when it comes down to it, the player is what determines who wins, but the character is a big part of it too
ok where's YOUR end of the argument then? you say im wrong yet you don't post a counter argument. in my eyes that doesnt mean anything.

However I will say that you were right in the sense that you can't tell what a character is going to be like until you play them, but I stand firm on the subject on tiers and how they are determined.
AlphaZealot said:
The tier list is a measure of how characters stack up in tournament play according to the current metagame.

So, no, character potential has nothing to do with the list, at least in the sense that you are trying to predict how a character will evolve to be played a year from now.

The list is just a current representation of how things play out on the tournament scene as a result of the metagame. Falco's game has been evolving over the last year and as a result we have seen Falco shoot up a few notches. Fox's game has undergone that same evolution. Meanwhile very little has been added to Sheik's metagame. Chu Dat started a revolution with Ice Climbers, but it was slow to catch on, which is why the previous list has the Ice Climbers lower than this new list. The new list actually takes into account that other people are playing the Ice Climbers, not just Chu Dat (meep, azn lep, among a few others).

This list is the RESULT of tournament play. Keep that in mind. Many people seem to be saying that this list will influence people, while it is really the opposite way around, the list is influenced by the competitive community. On the noncompetitve newby level the tier list may seem to be counter to logic or just a popularity contest, but it really isn't. Certain characters are played more frequently than other characters because they have more going for them.
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