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Is this Bessie?
That doesn't qualify as "calling out", especially when compared to the Sabrar part of the same post:
And then you never brought that up again, not even when you voted Heury. Why?
Actually laughed out loud on that one
Absolutely not, Heury is my second preference. I'm trying to work out why Sabrar talking about his own scum meta was suspicious enough to be spelled out (and get into a kerfuffle), but not suspicious enough to be even mentioned regarding Heury later. The vote serves mainly as emphasis and an indication of where my mind is. This game isn't majority vote, so I'm troubled by your attempt to create such a strong connection between me and Heury despite my express suspicion of him.
I'm not saying this post reason I cleared you. Swiss claimed vig on page 1 and then your plan including yeeting him, and then I cleared you. I just used this quote for my point since I ran into it while going through and was lazy too lazy to go to original post d1.
I expected votes being new because new players are easy day 1 votes and because like its been stated a few times before new players are hard to read which makes them good suspects as well.
Anyone would or should ve suspicious if anyone is throwing thier name out there. Why would I not be suspicious of that. And I also mentioned that ran mentioning me and hammering me right at the beginning made me suspicious of him as well so its not just heury. And I already answered that question in my read on heury. Ive found this self assessment true in other games but if no one else who has played with him before has found this to be true even once then I will drop it.
Why am I your second preference? I don't recall seeing it anywhere.
Bessie's fluffiness is one of the best things about her.
This is what you gave as an answer to ranmaru's question which was precisely about why me yeeting Swiss would clear me. So basically you still didn't give an answer but you're pretending like you did.
Don't be willing to just "drop" things if someone disagrees with you. Nothing wrong with standing your ground.
I'll try, I should be able to be on Saturday night, I'll try my best Sunday morning but I've got to drive 5 hours that day so I don't want to wake up to early.
sniped by ran feels bad man.
For me Tattertot's readlist is just more questions. Because like yah, what you brought up here is true and scummy behavior from tattertot, but the guy had like 2 days to make this, so if he was mafia I'd expect it to be a bit more polished? Continuing this train of thought after this next post.
I happen to agree with this take by Laserguy. Mala said Laserguy was a great and super helpful partner for him in his first scum game. I think that game was brought up here earlier but I don't remember the name.
I just feel its a big disingenuous to bring up being nk'd for your power...that you flaunt I guess.
thanks for answering. Personally I feel Bessie having a bit of fluff makes me read her more town, as she doesn't appear to have a bias anywhere.
I'm not sure why at this point its derailing. We still have 2 days ill EoD give or take. Somi came in late, and this is their first real push so I personally find it fine.
Actually, I don't think someone suspecting you is suspicious in itself. The whole point of the game is that town doesn't know anyone else's alignment so there's going to be a lot of town-on-town action (especially on D1). What matters is how people make their conclusions about you or anyone else and if their reasoning makes sense from their point of view (obviously it often won't from yours, you know you're town).
It's in my reads list, I think your arguments for pushing Tattertot aren't great, especially the one about new players being difficult to read. I'm also dubious about how much information we get from the flip of a newbie who's been suspect to most of us (partly because of the aforementioned difficulty).
Ok, guess you actually missed that list, because bessie is still a town lean, just not a strong one. As for fluff, it doesn't equal scum by any stretch of the imagination, it's not even a strong tell or anything, but it's a hint.
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I'm voting Swiss at the moment for the record
This is an interesting take, hope I'll have enough time to go over the reasoning when it comes out. Ran is p town to me rn, reminds me of his play in sumting.
I can definitely see a bit of caution and hedge in his reads list post. For me it's a question of whether that's scum indicative for a new player. I think it's expected for a new player, but I'm open to hear your take on it.
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since Tattertot has played with you, admittedly in a different form, do you have any meta opinions on his current play?
As I said, it was in response to what was happening in the thread at the time. Why are you ignoring this? Why did you ignore that I said my vote was primarily a pressure vote?
How many games have you played with somi? Have you ever seen him play as scum? My meta on somi is pretty good.
This kind of post always feels very townie to me.
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That interaction about the laserguy thing was very odd in how he adresses it. It felt, rushed almost. I can definitely see that as trying to get out to seek help from a mafia partner, but that raises the question of where has the mafia partner been the rest of the time and before the post.
I actually generally get to the opposite effect. I see it as mafia pretending to have given up and accept death to throw people off. What makes it feel townie to you?
My experience is that mafia tend to be more interested in self-preservation and don't often think about reasons their yeet may help Town. If mafia is given up they normally just ghost the thread rather than risk exposing their partners.
Doesn’t need to be a proper case - just quote the posts you don’t like and anything of relevance