Walgreens Mafia - DRAW game - The mod ****ed up pretty bad...=/

[T-block]

RR, you said you accept my reasoning. do you agree with it?

if we're not going to be able to lynch aa, i'll settle on rajam

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Man, I'm OK with TBlock alive just because he seems to be like the only player actually doing something. Not quite 6 hours until deadline and I will not stay awake for longer than 1 hr 30 mins.

 

[asianaussie]

got up earlier than i thought

protected ryu because i honestly had no other townreads at that point, barring myself

didn't protect myself because a) not thinking too straight (first time being town PR, this is also why i stupidly suggested someone cop me) and b) i was half hoping i would get killed and this would be one less distraction in my life

 

[T-block]

what happened to this

i will instead talk about why i think you're town

during the fuss thrown up around the gambit a lot of people were quick to crucify you and say you were backpedalling etc

i honestly didn't buy into it, so after the dust settled i decided your gambit had towny intentions behind it

yeah

find me a quote where you said RR was town, because i don't think you did

 

[Jim Morrison]

got up earlier than i thought

protected ryu because i honestly had no other townreads at that point, barring myself

didn't protect myself because a) not thinking too straight (first time being town PR, this is also why i stupidly suggested someone cop me) and b) i was half hoping i would get killed and this would be one less distraction in my life

Yoooo your claim is looking so shaky to me.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Ugh now I'm possibly gonna waste a cop investigate on AA to see if he's legit doctor, or if he's not as I suspect.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Screw it, gonna take the safe route

Vote: Rajam

 

[T-block]

Ugh now I'm possibly gonna waste a cop investigate on AA to see if he's legit doctor, or if he's not as I suspect.

ugh, i'm fine with this i guess

unvote
vote: Rajam

aa, i still want you to respond to that post before the Day ends

 

[asianaussie]

shrug

i don't really have an explanation, i must have decided you were null sometime between now and then

i mean, gorf apparently thought i was ridic town at one point but i shifted back to null pretty quickly

Ugh now I'm possibly gonna waste a cop investigate on AA to see if he's legit doctor, or if he's not as I suspect.

i would rather you investigate gheb or J, if you want ill protect you

if it matters i believe your claim

 

[Jim Morrison]

Sounds good.

 

[Asdioh]

god damn, there are like 80+ posts in the hour after I left for work. time to read ._.

 

[T-block]

aa, will you vote rajam

 

[Asdioh]

SDO, why do you question AA's claim? Do you have a reason more than gut?

I was like 90% sure that T-block was the doctor. It only made sense with his miller claim. If you claim miller, scum is most likely not going to kill you, since that's pretty much a VT to them, narrowing down the pool of potential PRs. Almost as importantly, the cop won't waste an investigation on you. Doctor and Cop are two of the only roles that are reliably considered town when somebody claims it, unless there's a CC. So T-block could later claim Doctor during massclaims and that would be really useful and stuff. Him claiming miller guaranteed the cop wouldn't waste a Night on him, and almost guaranteed that scum would leave him alone for a while.

That's why I thought AA was just fishing for counterclaims, and the fact that T-block didn't unvote and also thought the same thing only reinforced it. I also thought his comments on "unrestricted blah blah roles" was an attempt to push AA without revealing himself as the doctor. Perhaps I was thinking too deeply into it?

So, aside from the fact that I simply think TB's play has been townie, that's part of where my superstrong townread stems from.

We don't have any time to waste though. T-block, judging by the fact that you're not pushing an AA lynch anymore, I assume that you don't CC?

"Salt would be in aisle 5 right near the Jelly."

:dwam:

setup spec is not at all the only reason obviously

it reads more as "might as well expose the doc" than a real doc claim

but more importantly, why would he protect you? he never mentioned you as a town read D1. in fact, he barely mentions you at all. why does he protect the miller who had been a non-presence all Day?

WHAT'S MORE, he lists me as one of his strongest town reads, but then says toDay that he is fine with my death. i asked him to elaborate on why twice, and he conveniently ignores it.

yeah I quoted this but I already wrote stuff

 

[Rajam]

rajam needs to answer this. still think he can die



sticking with my newbscum sokr read, although i've never played with him before. someone should verify july's meta on him. potentially of note is how he avoided the rajam push altogether, only giving a weak mention of him in 247.

don't give july a town pass too quickly. she is more than capable of playing like this as scum. haven't seen anything suggesting either alignment for her.

still don't believe kantrip's role, but that's not important. his reasoning for jumping on my wagon was terrible (calling the crumbing scummy, trying to incriminate me for playing being focused on defending myself, etc). coming from kantrip i'm not sure whether it's scummy or just dumb play though. i do think he is caught up and excited to be able to push me, given our history (he'll deny it of course), which would probably tend to push his actions towards what he was doing, even as town. if you get a guilty later, absolutely push kantrip to use his ability - i would not feel comfortable with him in late game.

rr town for miller cc.

mentos, aa, guus leaning townie. aa > guus > mentos for order. need to see more from all of them though. more action from guus.

asdioh is fine. as i said, some of his reasoning looks a little wack (even his reasoning for town read on me looks silly at times), but i've seen it before from him, so null on that. other than that, nothing alarming from him.

gorf's initial reasoning for suspecting me was absolutely terrible, but he's been good lately, okay with gorf as well.

i've gotten a somewhat opportunistic feel from gheb but that might just be because of time zones and the times he posts. null on him.

July (J) =/= T-block

explain this one

That quote comes after T-block revoked his miller claim. I feel this is T-block giving his most honest oppinions and reads at that moment since he received a lot of pressure in those initial moments after he revoked the claim. I think the way in which T-block treats July about checking her meta on Sokr and not giving her a quick-town pass is honest

 

[Rajam]

Gonna say this straight up:

With cop+doc outted, I think we should mass-claim

 

[Rajam]

How much time until deadline? What's EST time now?

 

[Rajam]

More on the setup speculation side:

With doc+cop "confirmed", I think miller has a lot of sense. Also, probably scum has either a godfather or a rblocker

 

[T-block]

no,I don't cc

That quote comes after T-block revoked his miller claim. I feel this is T-block giving his most honest oppinions and reads at that moment since he received a lot of pressure in those initial moments after he revoked the claim. I think the way in which T-block treats July about checking her meta on Sokr and not giving her a quick-town pass is honest

coin flips,gheb

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So it's 3 am here and I'm going to bed now. Deadline in 3 hours, eh?

Unvote Vote Rajam

GorfSK, feel free to shoot me.

 

[Asdioh]

Aw T-block, everything I thought I knew was a lie :/
You'll have to explain your reasoning for the miller claim... later.

I guess I'll go with a Rajam lynch since my preferred lynches (AA/J) fell through. Compromising sucks.

 

[#HBC | J]

Kay I'll be here to hammer by deadline but I'm gonna post a few thingies or try to by tonight. ^.^

 

[Rajam]

T-block, what PR are you that made you fake-claim miller to avoid a NKill?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'll not be here to vote Rajam at deadline, I'll vote em when I leave for bed I guess.

 

[#HBC | J]

I can handle it because I am up doing things so if you don't wanna feel stressed.

Uhm, I got distracted by AT mafia but I'll try and get some thingies in honestly by deadline.

Rajam, quit fishing. >=[

 

[Rajam]

My oppinion on Night Actions:

JM: Cop either aa, J, Asdioh, Gheb. Don't cop T-block
aa: Protect JM. Don't protect yourself

If there is a scum rblocker around, then they're obviously rblocking one and killing the other. If cop survives and has a result, then scum probably has a godfather instead of a rblocker, and that's why I don't want JM copping T-block because I don't want cop clearing a potential godfather (T-block is the one who potentially fits that role the most given the miller claims issue, and if there is in fact a mafia godfather)

Gorf: Shoot either J or RR. And shoot; I'm full-support for you shooting toNight. If scum has a rblocker, we can at least hope you're faster than scum which could give us another Night with doc/cop alive.

 

[T-block]

oh, i also wanted to point out that aa gave a reason for not protecting himself other than "i can't protect myself". idk how often it is that doctors are allowed to protect themselves (my impression is that it's not often), but it's one thing that's pointing to fakeclaim for me.

T-block, what PR are you that made you fake-claim miller to avoid a NKill?

hahaha

 

[T-block]

do NOT cop asdioh. if he were scum, he would have killed me last Night.

idk why you think it would be good for godfather to claim miller, but it's really not relevant because your whole setup post was stupid and i sincerely hope that nobody takes it seriously.

 

[Rajam]

Also, Rockin basically mod-confirmed both Gheb and T-block aren't scummates in #1695

 

[#HBC | J]

Hmmm, I'm ready to vote Rajam. My thoughts are changing a bit but I need Rajam's flip with this new info of a Doc/Cop claim toDay.

Vote: Rajam

*live-update*

Really?

 

[#HBC | J]

44 pages of nothingness I believe.....

This'll be fun. xD

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh man yeah I know.

 

[asianaussie]

clarification: i was entirely unaware doctors are unable to target themselves

no mention of this was made in the pm

 

[#HBC | J]

Well if you figure that info out AA, keep it to yourself. Ask the mod and then just yeah do what I said first and keep it to yourself.

People throw reads out before flip and before I crank out this re-read. Thanks! <3

 

[Rajam]

T-block, I think you did a bad play if you're town doc

aa could've flipped rblocker after lynch, and even if not, asking Gorf to take out J should've been enough

^ Consider this is T-block cclaims aa toMorrow. Force him to claim asap, either now or toMorrow. All this time I thought he was either cop or doc. By not cclaiming neither role after aa claimed cop, then idk what the hell his role is, but I don't see how it would fit in his miller claim gambit with the purpose of avoiding NKill...

@scum: If T-block is town then he is town princess. Flavor: "cute girl in the store who everyone likes" . If you kill him you win. You know it's true if you're only two

@Gorf: be trigger-happy, but don't kill T-block

kthxbai

gl town!

 

[T-block]

aa, that's because your role PM isn't a doc role PM at all

rr, asdioh, gorf town
JM town for now, but i'm keeping my eye on him
scum lies in gheb, aa, j

if rajam isn't bsing, i'd go with gheb/aa

if rajam flips scum, probably aa. i THINK i'd clear j in that case, but i'd have to reread.

 

[#HBC | J]

Why does JM have an eye on him for claiming cop?

Rajam, now I get why they call ya trollmaster Rajam. Claiming some else is princess is ballsy and funny as hell. xD

 

[T-block]

because we're not guaranteed to have cop in the game?

he's defs a few tiers below the three i mentioned that i'm watching

 

[#HBC | J]

You didn't even mention RR so if you believe RR is actually the miller, then why wouldn't we have a cop in the game?

 

[T-block]

that is an awesome point

i am an idiot

ohhhh god the tb/rr thing is going to get revived again isn't it ._.

 

[#HBC | J]

Noooo you is not an idiot. Mark it up to it being late at night and this game being a mess haha.

But hmmm to push that as a scum-slip of a TB/RR team just because you said "Oh god I hope it isn't revived" and see where that goes. >:3