Vs Recorder - Mewtwo Video & Critique Thread

[Chiroz]

Good news, I finally have time to play Mewtwo. It's been 3 weeks and I haven't been able to play him almost at all but now I'll be able to learn and evolve my Mewtwo play.

Before I start though I'd like to post the replays I've saved over the last couple of weeks so, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCttG16jT_EvO9Z2LbBXvp_g



There's a LOT of videos there (like 20-30). 2 disclaimers though, most of the videos are old and I haven't gotten much practice with Mewtwo at all (my played time of Solo + Practice + Online is still in the 1 digit mark and I haven't played local multiplayer with Mewtwo at all) so you might see me make some mistakes on spacing/safety or try to follow up things that shouldn't be followed up on, etc. Basically I have a lack of Mewtwo-knowledge in most of the videos, but that will soon be remedied over the next few days.

As a second disclaimer though, I normally only save replays where I did something cool (I should start saving the replays I get my ass handed to myself so I can learn from my mistakes, but as of right now I did not save any of those), so I will win in most of the games you see on my channel. Not that FG really matters much, but at the beginning I was losing almost 70-80% of the games I played with Mewtwo, but now apparently I have an 90% win ratio over my last 50 games, so I am getting much better with very little practice (like 2 hours).



Hopefully now that I can actually play and learn Mewtwo I will get much better over the next 1-2 weeks and I can upload videos which portray a much better skill level. I am also thinking of starting to stream myself playing. I can stream 720p of myself playing Mewtwo everyday, I don't know if any of you would be interested in that.

Please watch my videos and critique any mistakes or give me any suggestions on what I should change up.

 

[Croi]

Went Mewtwo (almost) exclusively at my last local. Placed 3rd, but it was a Round Robin and I showed up an hour late. I coulda gotten first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZvECqgnukE This one's probably the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK86wkLIFyo This one had a sick ending to game 1 though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsVUNL2AezM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPECkeCCI9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BucSk5pQFYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woNOPYi95eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWr2YKLiRGA I hate customs

 

[rekt]

Went Mewtwo (almost) exclusively at my last local. Placed 3rd, but it was a Round Robin and I showed up an hour late. I coulda gotten first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZvECqgnukE This one's probably the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK86wkLIFyo This one had a sick ending to game 1 though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsVUNL2AezM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPECkeCCI9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BucSk5pQFYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woNOPYi95eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWr2YKLiRGA I hate customs

That second match with Lucina was stupid. And the commentators made me sick to my stomach. "ZOMG GOOD LUCINA KNOWS HOW TO USE UP SPECIAL." that move is all cheese and anyone who knows how to throw combo can use it. I'm sorry you had to deal with that trash. Solidarity, bro.

 

[Karsticles]

Who else should I be watching besides Trela?

 

[bingbongbang]

Hello guys!
This is a match between me and a gannon.
It was a ranked Anthers ladder match and we were both tryharding.
I think this match really shows off powerful Mewtwo's shadowball can be. It pretty much controlled the match after awhile.
And remember, no matter how far behind you are as mewtwo, you can always strike back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E549f4rFz4I

 

[MookieRah]

@ Croi
Does that custom up-b actually combo if you DI properly? I'm thinking that it doesn't. Also, you make a lot of obvious grab attempts that you really shouldn't have gone for. You gotta learn to not simply react in a knee- jerk fashion and really observe what is happening.

Edit:
I've watched all your vids now Croi, and you did a really good job. My original message above was posted through my phone, so I didn't have the time or patience to post about the fact that you played well.

There are three things that I think you need to work on. First is stage control. You don't seem too concerned with it, and it's a big deal. Position yourself to where you have more stage behind you than your opponent, this cuts off your opponents options while giving yourself plenty of room if you need to back off. In your matches you seem to be quite aggro, and you will give up stage advantage to go for a risky move. This often times puts you into dangerous situations. Speaking of which, did you ever wonder why Hank Hill kept landing sudden fsmashes on you? It's because he knew you would roll, but the reason you rolled is because he had stage control. He was patient, and pushed you into a corner and allowed you to do his work for him. This can work in your favor as well. It's much easier to predict your opponent if they don't have many options.

The second is that you commit too much in neutral. This is more evident in your matches against Hank Hill. You began start throwing out random smashes which didn't help you at all. When someone is focussed on rush-down, the last thing you should do is to just throw stuff out. Use your dtilt and ftilt as pokes, maintain good spacing, and just keep calm. Using safe pokes, while not as rewarding on hit, means you make less mistakes, which means that your opponent has less chances to KO you.

Lastly, you do tend to get greedy and often will go for risky things with low chances of success that put you out of position. For example: you have a tendency to overextend after you land a fair against an opponent by the ledge or right offstage by trying to followup with another fair from your double jump. It's kinda obvious, as there is so much time for your opponent to react and it's quite telegraphed. Almost every time you do this, your opponent will get around you and often punishes you as you are now the one trying to recover. You are better off just landing and charging a shadowball (giving you a guaranteed advantage), or landing and then reacting to what your opponent does.

 

[Chiroz]

@ Croi
Does that custom up-b actually combo if you DI properly? I'm thinking that it doesn't. Also, you make a lot of obvious grab attempts that you really shouldn't have gone for. You gotta learn to not simply react in a knee- jerk fashion and really observe what is happening.

I think it does until a certain %. I play a Lucina/Marth main on a regular basis and I've tried many DIs and I have been able to avoid it but it always seem to be when I am already at a decently high %. Also the problem is that it doesn't have to combo, that Up-B can be used throughout the match whenever you're positioned for it, it's so fast that it's really hard to avoid. It can just be used as an anti-air of sorts, plus it gives Marth/Lucina such a good aerial mobility afterwards that it's even safe to use outside of the stage facing away from the stage (you can still make it back to the edge if you're above the stage level).

 

[Karsticles]

Man, where are all the great Mewtwo videos? :-(

 

[DrizzyDrew]

Here i have a 1v1 subscriber battle against a very good Greninja with my Mewtwo.

https://youtu.be/stju1H7a288

 

[Karsticles]

Okay, here is my first upload on the Elgato HD60:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0CZ4ACZ6lA

Would y'all give me feedback on the quality? My PC stutters at 1080p, so I don't actually know how well it turned out. -_- Any and all feedback is appreciated on the video quality, upload title, description, and tags - I am new to all of this.

Note that the gameplay is from April 17, so match feedback isn't really necessary, haha. :-)

I have over 100 more replays to upload of Mewtwo gameplay. I'm not the best Mewtwo, but there's such a dearth of gameplay to watch that I feel like anything is better than nothing.

 

[Ghidorah14]

Mewtwo attempts to show this ZSS scrub the error of her ways.
https://youtu.be/1SrBlDad26Y

 

[meleebrawler]

Mewtwo attempts to show this ZSS scrub the error of her ways.

Since this is 3DS online it deserves some leniency for bad inputs, but...

That ZSS is really, REALLY bad (she doesn't seem to know grab exists), but if I'm gonna be quite honest
you're not much better. The main reason you win is that you're using kill moves and she's not (aside from the rare Boost Kick).
She also never attempted to get followups after dash attack when it would have been really easy.

You roll way too much; a real ZSS would punish all those back rolls really easily, especially with her grab which would
then lead to painful combos. If you're gonna punish a paralyzer with a Shadow Ball, try to skip the reflecting step and
just throw the ball straight through. Use other means to punish after a successful reflect to conserve charges; they're
too good to waste like that against good opponents. Also, if you're going to throw a bunch of shadow balls, consider
using uncharged ones instead, they fire faster and can cover more space that way.

 

[Ghidorah14]

Yeah, I dont play mewtwo that much, and I was just kinda messing with the guy. I just found it hilarious that I kept hitting him with his own paralyzer. Video was moreso about him playing like crap than me trying to show off. I was really hoping he'd catch on and start mixing it up more, but alas.

 

[Matty89]

 

[Karsticles]

I got all excited because I thought someone posted content.

 

[Ghidorah14]

Not really a "guide to mewtwo" so much as it is a "here's my attempt at mimicking alpharadTV."

At least call it a montage or something. Calling it a guide is just misleading.

 

[Dyz]

Hello fellow Mewtwo players, i usually post montages or compilations of the best moments, i been asking for feedback whenever i should do commentary or full matches, but no one seems to reply, so hopefully i can get my answers here, i have two videos i will OP says not to embed, so thanks to anyone who watches :D!

1st video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRO9EXebHKc

2nd video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yriR8LLrsU

 

[Karsticles]

Hello fellow Mewtwo players, i usually post montages or compilations of the best moments, i been asking for feedback whenever i should do commentary or full matches, but no one seems to reply, so hopefully i can get my answers here, i have two videos i will OP says not to embed, so thanks to anyone who watches :D!

1st video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRO9EXebHKc

2nd video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yriR8LLrsU

I don't really get the point of watching compilations of you stomping moons. I crave full sets of quality play.

 

[pikazz]

this isnt a full gameplay video but this is a mewtwo video.

my first ever montage 'w'

 

[Dyz]

I don't really get the point of watching compilations of you stomping moons. I crave full sets of quality play.

thats what i been meaning to get feedback, i used to upload full matches but i thought people find it boring so i started doing compilations, well thanks for your opinion next time i have an good quality mewtwo matches, i will keep it in full :3
thank you for leaving a comment :D!

 

[Karsticles]

thats what i been meaning to get feedback, i used to upload full matches but i thought people find it boring so i started doing compilations, well thanks for your opinion next time i have an good quality mewtwo matches, i will keep it in full :3
thank you for leaving a comment :D!

Ah. You are welcome. I recommend showing matches against players you struggle against, especially.

 

[Eight_SixtyFour]

this isnt a full gameplay video but this is a mewtwo video.

my first ever montage 'w'

I like the Up Air into Forward Air setup.

This probably isn't much but there is some Mewtwo play on Tourney Locator's channel. Two players, Mew^2 and P2P Gibus seem to have a decent grasp of the character. I can't really say for sure since there aren't many videos of this character

 

[pikazz]

I like the Up Air into Forward Air setup.

calling it "The Rising Claw" combo, best thing is that UAir to FAir is a true combo and killable just like you saw in the video ;w;

but yeah, I wish it was more videos or mewtwo :/

 

[Eight_SixtyFour]

More vids of Mew^2. Not much Mewtwo exposure

 

[moofpi]

Got some good stuff from Fire and Dice, usually a higher level California weekly.

This is Void who goes Mewtwo in his first match against Charliedaking's Fox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnUT_Q6me90

 

[Chiroz]

Got some good stuff from Fire and Dice, usually a higher level California weekly.

This is Void who goes Mewtwo in his first match against Charliedaking's Fox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnUT_Q6me90

While Void is a great player, his Mewtwo is still not very great. I have beaten Charlie twice in bracket (haven't lost Also I was there at that moment and I talked to him about Mewtwo. He was saying that he wants to secondary Mewtwo and Roy because he thinks Mewtwo's D-Air is one of the best moves in the game and it's unexplored.

 

[moofpi]

While Void is a great player, his Mewtwo is still not very great. I have beaten Charlie twice in bracket (haven't lost Also I was there at that moment and I talked to him about Mewtwo. He was saying that he wants to secondary Mewtwo and Roy because he thinks Mewtwo's D-Air is one of the best moves in the game and it's unexplored.

Yeah, his custom needle Sheik combos are disgusting so I was really looking forward to his Mewtwo play.
He is correct, I heard somewhere Mewtwo has probably the strongest Dair in the game. I like that some more really good players are looking into Mewtwo's potential.

 

[Chiroz]

Yeah, his custom needle Sheik combos are disgusting so I was really looking forward to his Mewtwo play.
He is correct, I heard somewhere Mewtwo has probably the strongest Dair in the game. I like that some more really good players are looking into Mewtwo's potential.

He didn't mean the spike though. He means the sourspot hit. He says people forget that that has such a huge knockback and that he thinks it might make Mewtwo better.

Anyways I am really looking forward to him learning Mewtwo, I just hope he doesn't lose hope. If you like FaD, I go to it every week but everytime I am on stream I suck majorly, I will say it's stream nerves (johns) .

I've been placing decently though, top 17/55 in the last 4 tournies that have had Void, Larry, Mr R, Vinnie, Rich Brown, K9 and SS Shane all top players in their respective regions.

I think my Mewtwo is getting a little better at least, plus I've had a lot of pros gimme praise on how well I use Mewtwo even after they wreck me, lol.

 

[moofpi]

Sourspot Dair eh? Now that's interesting. I just wish there were more videos showing developed Mewtwo gameplay.
And yes, I love Fire and Dice. Great level headed commentary, highest level play of any weekly I've seen, stacked tournaments. That's cool you go to tourneys in such a strong region, amazing training grounds.

Be that Mewtwo guy people watch out for!

 

[Karsticles]

He didn't mean the spike though. He means the sourspot hit. He says people forget that that has such a huge knockback and that he thinks it might make Mewtwo better.

Anyways I am really looking forward to him learning Mewtwo, I just hope he doesn't lose hope. If you like FaD, I go to it every week but everytime I am on stream I suck majorly, I will say it's stream nerves (johns) .

I've been placing decently though, top 17/55 in the last 4 tournies that have had Void, Larry, Mr R, Vinnie, Rich Brown, K9 and SS Shane all top players in their respective regions.

I think my Mewtwo is getting a little better at least, plus I've had a lot of pros gimme praise on how well I use Mewtwo even after they wreck me, lol.

I know that feeling. Get your ass kicked, "Your Mewtwo is great!"

 

[gimpleader]

I just realized that Mew2 is the ULTIMATE Little Mac Counter. That was intended with an extreme amount of sarcasm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIQRo4emnno
V

 

[RosieTwoDutch]

This is my Mewtwo against a Megaman player. I lost 2-0 but good footage to study if you are trying to get a grip on Mewtwo.

http://www.twitch.tv/ssb914/b/677105741

If the link does not automatically set to the right time, its 1:55:24.

Points of interest:

- Mewtwo's Side B can reflect Megaman's:

- Neutral B
- Side B
- Down B? (Actually not sure)
- Forward Smash
- Uair (Tornadoes)
- Dair (spike) (1:59:11)

- Nair Oos w/ changing R to Jump to buffer is great option; can mess with Megaman's projectiles
- In this particular match-up, I was jumping as Megaman was throwing the gear so I could catch it while continuing my move (1:58:41)
- Nair is also great for punishing rolls towards Mewtwo. In this matchup I got carried away by approaching Megaman with Nair, and I would try to mix up which side of his shield that I landed on. Risky af but hey

- KNOW THE PERCENT AND KILL AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE!!!

- Mewtwo's Side B on Battlefield will make certain characters land in somewhat of a jab lock position on the first set of platforms.
- I have no knowledge as to whether the opponent can tech immediatedly (1:58:49). I missed the oppurtunity but what you want to do in this situation is immediatedly USMASH!!!

 

[Pakky]

Not sure if this is the place to post this but has anyone face a Mewtwo user by the name IPAKMANN?

 

[Chiroz]

Not sure if this is the place to post this but has anyone face a Mewtwo user by the name IPAKMANN?

No, why?

 

[Pakky]

No, why?

Oh because that's me, and I was wondering if anyone has run into me on there before, strangely I have never fought another serious Mewtwo player.

 

[Chiroz]

Oh because that's me, and I was wondering if anyone has run into me on there before, strangely I have never fought another serious Mewtwo player.

Mewtwo is probably one of the characters I see the least online, whether it be FG or Anther's ladder. I think if I have fought more than 10 Mewtwo's that's pushing it.

 

[DrizzyDrew]

EPIC Mewtwo highlight match and if you enjoy the pokemon movie, you wl;l enjoy this too : ) ENJOY!

https://youtu.be/DeQZQF8_Upo

 

[FalcoDive]

Sorry for the quality, no capture card yet! So I've been working on a 0-death string with Mewtwo for a while, typically it consists of: Confusion > Shadow Ball/F-smash > Short hop dair. In this clip, I have too much rage so it's far more avoidable than I would like, but regardless, it's a pretty neat little string that nets me a lot of KOs on fighters with average or worse recoveries!

Also, for those interested, I find F-smash to typically provide a more favorable knockback with (I think) less endlag to allow for a quicker dair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqsLBGPRQgQ

 

[Chiroz]

Sorry for the quality, no capture card yet! So I've been working on a 0-death string with Mewtwo for a while, typically it consists of: Confusion > Shadow Ball/F-smash > Short hop dair. In this clip, I have too much rage so it's far more avoidable than I would like, but regardless, it's a pretty neat little string that nets me a lot of KOs on fighters with average or worse recoveries!

Also, for those interested, I find F-smash to typically provide a more favorable knockback with (I think) less endlag to allow for a quicker dair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqsLBGPRQgQ

I am really sorry to tell you this, but honestly no string that starts from Confusion is even remotely worth it. If a player does not jump after Confusion (or aerial for those characters with a frame <5 aerial that auto cancels) then they are not very good players.

A combo that only works on people who are either not very skilled or lack the matchup knowledge is not going to have that many uses.



That said, I have been able to F-Smash really skilled players after Confusion. But it's like a 1/10 chance, and that's after you've already landed Confusion. This combo is % specific, so it's even more precise. Plus once people know this is an option they'll actively look to avoid it :S.

Also I wouldn't exactly call this a string. The opposing player has to jump towards you. If they just drop or air dodge then you don't get it either.



Just going to say this here for those who don't know too: Sweetspot D-Tilt->D-Air Spike is a true combo at specific %s for most chars. The problem is they need to be by the ledge and it's an specific % per char.

 

[FalcoDive]

I guess I should have stated that I didn't mean for it to be super reliable or anything, just something interesting you could pull out once in a while. They don't necessarily need to jump right at you either, it's more about reading where they're going to go. Still probably not a string, but it's not useless either. Like you say, I think throwing this out once a match/series could have some merit though. Also, out of curiosity, is there anything I could use to instigate this OTHER than confusion?