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vs. Doc

Dogysamich

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Lets see. (ima doc player btw, and my capfal is terrible, but i swear to god doc vs capfal is one of the dumbest matchups in the game)

Vid 1: Approach with n.air more. N.air annhilates doc. Kills his pills, he cant shieldgrab you out of it, it's just, dumb. XD And when you do nair, space them better. Other big this is to work on your execution. I see you slippin on simple d.air -> knees, and whatnot. If you're going to D.air, land behind them so shieldgrabbing is NEVER an option.

Being on YS doesnt help, you want to avoid those kinds of stages when you have a choice.

And one more thing, move around more. Doc cant keep up with you.

... and dont raptor boost off the stage. XD

Vid2: Execution. >.> I see you landing in doc's space with an aerial and then shielding. Again, you can space yourself well enough with a n.air (or b.air if you want to), and not land in his space. So dont, and if you do, dont stand there blocking unless you KNOW he's coming to come with something.

-end- XD

Vid3: (these vids are hurting my eyes btw)
Way to space him out with jabs in the beginning. That's what you're looking for the whole time, keep him outta your zone.

I get the feeling that when you shield -> spotdodge, you're trying to come out of your shield with a d.air. It's good thinking, ya just need to make it happen.

Vid4: omg DI away if he's u.air juggling you, dont give him more jugggglez. B.air -> b.air was pretty hot.

XD @ scarjumping.

.... woooooooooooooooow @ uno jokes.

!!!! that combo at the end dear god.

But na, notice how you won the 1 match on FD, but lost the 3 on YS and FoD? that's because those stages encouraged you to not move around. All in all, you need to move more instead of getting next to doc and locking yourself in your shield.


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Good stuff though. Better than my CF. >.>
 

JonaDiaper

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i was thinking the same thing about me needing space, FoD made me mess up my shffling alot, Yoshis there wasnt enough for me to run around like i like to. i remember recording some matches on Dreamland and im pretty sure i won, but the camera my friend used is gay.
 

Dogysamich

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sounds about right.

You also need more PS. That stage is too f'n good for falcon.

Just do be so hasty to commit to your shield. Run more after your aerials, and dont land right in front of people.
 

JonaDiaper

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werd ther was some ps too, i dont know what happened to them all. i should have some more against him by sunday. we might play again saturday. ill try to use my movement more. thanks for takin the time for all that.
 

otg

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On my 5th 4 Loko and still ****** you.
yeah Jona, your Falcon is definitely nice. For someone who's been playing for such a short amount of time your pretty **** good. Next time I'm gonna have a new controller though, so you better watch yourself :laugh:

You should come down here and play some of my crewmates, see how you do.
 

elvenarrow3000

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Aaagh, dark black haze over the TV.

When you're grabbing and you're not sure where they're going to be, I would suggest dashing out then back in for a JC grab. It'll make it so that you're not facing the wrong direction. Grabs have a lot more lag than you think, so it's best to avoid whiffing them. Not that you'd want to whiff anything anyway.

As far as comboing into smashes goes, I don't think it's a great idea. On a character like Doc, the usmash is probably going to send him too far for you to hit him again and the fsmash... probably won't connect. If you really want to tack on more damage, you can uair or nair, land onto a platform, then knee.

At 1:00 I'm not sure why you went into the ftilt... you definitely could've just grabbed him. Really, I think you're going onto platforms a lot more than necessary. Yoshi's Story is small enough without restricting yourself to a platform. If you're opponent is up on one, you can shffl a uair or dair from under him or rise up to one side of the platform with a nair.

Speaking of nairs, it doesn't seem like you're capitalizing on them very well. You're landing quite a few, but there's very rarely any follow up. Try uairing after, or Raptor Boosting, or kneeing, or even JC grabbing.

Why do you keep playing on bad Falcon stages? Go Dreamland 64 or Final Destination if possible.

Ummm... just in general, work on your DI a little as you're missing some spots and maybe space yourself out a little more. There're a lot of times where you don't really have the advantage, frame-wise and you're still in his face, which often leads to you getting dsmash'd or combo'd or something.

You might also want to consider gimp killing a bit more. OTG seems to down-B recover pretty high, so you can run out and uair him out further.
 

JonaDiaper

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we did play more on dreamland, ps, and fd but they werent recorded. i coulda sworn YS was gonna be a good place for me cuz Scar ***** there, but i forgot im not scar. but since the random button was in favor of OTG that day we played mostly on small stages(BF,YS,FoD) i swear i was like why the same stages again and again???? but oh well. i can deal. thanks for dat
 
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