Graizen
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Thank you <3Agumon's pretty cool, wouldn't mind em
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Thank you <3Agumon's pretty cool, wouldn't mind em
I keep twitting to Namco about Sophitia but none replies. About Agumon and Naplam; I love how he makes valid points. In a way, he deserves to be in as he is Pikachu's rival.It's acknowledgement, if nothing else.
Nah , maybe just a color! But Classic Agumon is the real deal!Fine, it is Ruki my all time favorite Digimon character lol but as she is a cartoon character she has no chance. What about Agumon based on the 5th Digimon series, that guy was huge lol.
Done! Thank you and welcome =)Sign me up, would love me some Digimon representation and that Agumon goodness. One thing for sure is that his Digivolution Final Smash should of be any of the Greymon forms (Especially MetalGreymon).
The day it happens is when my inner childhood would die and come back to life. That's just how great it would be to have him in Smash.
Masaru is badass! HahaWhat I miss of that series, was the main human character went along punching Digimons lol.
dont think that really fits smashOn a side note, if both Agumon and Gabumon got in somehow, how would you feel about a secret button combination to become Omnimon, with one player controlling his ice attacks and one his fire, such that you'd have to work together to move him around properly or to get any of his super moves.
Well maybe... With a new mechanic for Doubles?dont think that really fits smash
The only way I could see Omnimon working is if WarGreymon IS the playable character, just on his own, and his FS would be to summon MetalGarurumon and fuse with him to become Omnimon, either for a single attack or for a short time transformation.Personally, I always found Metal Greymon sadly forgettable, despite his awesome design. War Greymon is where it's at IMO.
I wouldn't mind Rize or VictoryGreymon but season 1 forms would be best because those are the ones that people know and the ones that go with pre-anime Agumon.
On a side note, if both Agumon and Gabumon got in somehow, how would you feel about a secret button combination to become Omnimon, with one player controlling his ice attacks and one his fire, such that you'd have to work together to move him around properly or to get any of his super moves.
Here's the start of my long overdue moveset for Agumon, treating him as a movement based little heavy:
Up Special - Claw Uppercut: Agumon performs a jumping attack in which he sweeps his hands up and over his head, slashing anyone in his way. Superficially, this moves resembles Mario's recovery but will hit for more damage less frequently, potentially hitting up to 4 times for ~12%, though in reality unlikely to connect more than 2 or 3 times. His jump height is a tiny bit below Mario's too and, due to the different hand motion, his hitbox placement will change over the course of the attack, even hitting a little behind him by the move's end.
Along with the hitbox placement, the angle of knockback will also change, making it hard to get the one you want but, should you do so, Agumon will be able to kill off the top of Battlefield at around 110%. Do note that this knockback will only occur on the last hit that connects.
Neutral Special - Pepper Breath: Something of a cross between Mario and Luigi's fireballs, this move will travel twice as far as Mario's before hitting the ground if Agumon is standing and even further if he is airborne. It has no maximum range but will not bounce, instead disappearing in a puff of hissing smoke on contact with any object or after leaving the stage borders. Does around 7% damage and minimal knockback (not enough to launch).
Forward Special - Battle Hawk: Agumon pulls an axe, roughly his own size, out of nowhere, swinging it up and over from behind his back, all the while experiencing super amour. Contact with the swing will do a mere 3% but it will drag enemies forward and potentially into the main impact, which does a far more impressive 16% with 10 degree forward but mostly downward knockback. This is a slow move, since the comparibly mighty weight of the axe is hard for Agumon to lift, and it takes him a similarly long time to remove it frome the ground again. Because of this, the move's ending is quite vulnerable but the range of his axe makes him hard to hit during and even harder to then escape from unscathed. In terms of usability, this move is somewhat comparable to Kirby's risky but high reward hammer. The knockback of this move will kill at a little over 120% if rebounding from the stage.
And, speaking of similarities with Kirby's hammer, the aerial version is very close to what he had in Melee. Agumon will spin 360 degrees forwards twice before putting his axe away, the momentum carrying both him and his opponents roughly 2 stagebuilder blocks in that direction. Anyone hit will take up to 5 lots of 3% damage, making it only as powerful as the afforementioned underused hammer but between its horizontal movement properties and the super armour of the move leaving Agumon vulnerable only briefly at the start and end, this attack should be far more useful.
The third and most interesting part of this attack, however, is that, since Agumon will still fall slightly during the aerial version of Battle Hawk, he can use it close to the ground and touch down during the move. In this situation, it will transition from the spinning aerial into the second half of the grounded version, making for quicker start up and more range but still giving Agumon some pretty harsh ending lag.
Down Special - Spitfire Blast: Agumon pauses slightly before unleashing a flame much like Bowser or Charizards, the main difference being that his small posture changes it to a more upwards angle and makes him harder to hit around the move. Hopefully this makes up for the pause.
Triple A Combo - Dino Bite: A medium speed pair of what Agumon calls punches but are more like straight handed jabs that poke with his claws. Each one will hit for around 2% if the claw connects and 4% if the hand does, pushing foes back a little as they do so to enable the user to move forward into an open-mouthed bite/headbutt combo that strikes for another 9% and medium 45 degree upward knockback.
Done! Thank you and welcome ^-^Agumon would be a great addition to Smash. I am not quite sure if he is actually Pikachu's greatest rival, honestly, he is probably better suited to take on Charizard (if you ask me). Lizard Monster y Lizard Monster. Albeit, it is not as though Meowth is ever going to have a chance at Pikachu's crown. At first, I did not really believe that he was entirely viable; however, with some time, he has grown on me. I have speculated that Bandai Namco is going to get a second representative after Ryu was announced. I figured Yoshimitsu was logical given his connections to both Tekken and Soul Calibur. But then I remembered, nobody actually wants him! Agumon is sort of niche because most people are not cognizant that acquiring the rights to use him would be relatively easy. I think I can speak for most children of my era when I assert that we need to see Digimon v Pokemon happen at some point or another. Who knows, the ballot is a great place for Agumon to truly shine. But, there is an even better place. On the roster of the next game! If rumors are true and Bandai Namco develops the next Smash, Agumon would be a fairly justifiable addition if I do say so myself.
For me, this is a great time to begin supporting one of my old time favorites. If you are still updating the original post, please add my name to the list.
I would say his heavy attack('s)It sure is. Not sure where I'd fit it in though, with Up B having to be Claw Uppercut and both Pepper Breath and Spitfire Blast having to be present.
Eren thank you for that! I LOVE Klonoa as well , and If there is a second Namco rep, even though I prefer Agumon I wouldn't mind losing the potential roster spot to Klonoa. ^-^I put your Agumon art in my signature, I really like the background icon.
As it captures the original essence of handheld pets perfectly, which is in it's own, is a significant contribution to gaming.
If there is a second Namco rep, even though I prefer Klonoa I wouldn't mind losing the potential roster spot to Agumon.
You anti-Klonoa then?Uh, I have absolutely no knowledge or expertise in Digimon, but by the looks of it, Agumon does seem to be the most iconic thing in Digimon. I don't expect him to get in over Klonoa, but who knows? We might get lucky.
No, I'm not, I just don't know Bandai Namco games at all.You anti-Klonoa then?
Personally, I rather like both characters but Agumon is my favourite, for many reasons, not least of which being that Digimon was what I watched when season 2 of Pokemon came out and destroyed all of the show's credibility.
Ah, ok, it was just the implication given by you claiming both that you had no knowledge of Agumon and that it'd be lucky to have him over Klonoa.No, I'm not, I just don't know Bandai Namco games at all.
Still a better theory than anything MattPatt and the other Game Theorists could make up.I will write my theory of why I believe Digimon and Pokémon will meet soon:
The answer is very simple and is called Mega Evolution. I had never seen anything so identical to Digimon within the Pokémon universe, even the name is the same (in Japan it is called Warp and in the US is called Mega), but the features and even some formats are similar.
1 - The Mega evolving Pokémon is a temporary one, your monster will return to normal after a while. The same goes with Digimon.
2 - The Pokémon will return to normal after spending all energy. The same with Digimon.
3 - The Mega evolution is rare to happen between Pokémon. The same with Digimon.
4 - The trainer needs a device to create a Mega evolution. Digivices?
5 - The DNA symbol used in Mega evolution is also used in Digievolutions.
6 - The sentimental link between the Pokémon and the trainer is the same with the Digimon and his chosen ones.
7 - The level of power used by Mega forms of Pokémon is extremely high and could equate to some strong Digimon.
8 - The appearance of Mega Pokemon is just a modification of the original form, just like Digimon.
9 - They will even shout "Mega evolve Charizard!" , Identical to Digimon!
Needless to mention that Porygon is practically a Digimon. He could easily connect the two worlds.
But the fact is that these Mega evolving Pokémon is a blatant copy of Mega Digievolutions. And I believe this will be the starting point for a meeting between the two universes, especially now with Namco Bandai and Nintendo working together.
Below are some images of the facts:
This is a good theory... but I have to admit that I doubt it's true. Sure, Mega Evolutions are similar to Digimon's Mega forms, but I doubt it actually means anything... it could be just a coincidence (or Pokemon just copied Digimon, lol).I will write my theory of why I believe Digimon and Pokémon will meet soon:
The answer is very simple and is called Mega Evolution. I had never seen anything so identical to Digimon within the Pokémon universe, even the name is the same (in Japan it is called Warp and in the US is called Mega), but the features and even some formats are similar.
1 - The Mega evolving Pokémon is a temporary one, your monster will return to normal after a while. The same goes with Digimon.
2 - The Pokémon will return to normal after spending all energy. The same with Digimon.
3 - The Mega evolution is rare to happen between Pokémon. The same with Digimon.
4 - The trainer needs a device to create a Mega evolution. Digivices?
5 - The DNA symbol used in Mega evolution is also used in Digievolutions.
6 - The sentimental link between the Pokémon and the trainer is the same with the Digimon and his chosen ones.
7 - The level of power used by Mega forms of Pokémon is extremely high and could equate to some strong Digimon.
8 - The appearance of Mega Pokemon is just a modification of the original form, just like Digimon.
9 - They will even shout "Mega evolve Charizard!" , Identical to Digimon!
Needless to mention that Porygon is practically a Digimon. He could easily connect the two worlds.
But the fact is that these Mega evolving Pokémon is a blatant copy of Mega Digievolutions. And I believe this will be the starting point for a meeting between the two universes, especially now with Namco Bandai and Nintendo working together.
Below are some images of the facts:
to be fair inst that true of a lot of things in anime manga and the like, the terminology in pokemon and digimon was all ready similar im sure there are alot of things we could compare mega evolution and mega digimon i dont think we can really say it is a copy of digimon a few similarity is not a lot to go onI will write my theory of why I believe Digimon and Pokémon will meet soon:
The answer is very simple and is called Mega Evolution. I had never seen anything so identical to Digimon within the Pokémon universe, even the name is the same (in Japan it is called Warp and in the US is called Mega), but the features and even some formats are similar.
1 - The Mega evolving Pokémon is a temporary one, your monster will return to normal after a while. The same goes with Digimon.
2 - The Pokémon will return to normal after spending all energy. The same with Digimon.
3 - The Mega evolution is rare to happen between Pokémon. The same with Digimon.
4 - The trainer needs a device to create a Mega evolution. Digivices?
5 - The DNA symbol used in Mega evolution is also used in Digievolutions.
6 - The sentimental link between the Pokémon and the trainer is the same with the Digimon and his chosen ones.
7 - The level of power used by Mega forms of Pokémon is extremely high and could equate to some strong Digimon.
8 - The appearance of Mega Pokemon is just a modification of the original form, just like Digimon.
9 - They will even shout "Mega evolve Charizard!" , Identical to Digimon!
Needless to mention that Porygon is practically a Digimon. He could easily connect the two worlds.
But the fact is that these Mega evolving Pokémon is a blatant copy of Mega Digievolutions. And I believe this will be the starting point for a meeting between the two universes, especially now with Namco Bandai and Nintendo working together.
Below are some images of the facts:
To be completely honest, I believe that Mega Evolutions were borrowed from Digimon to freshen up the IP. It would be a familar concept and therefore "tangible" to fans of the series who had something to relate it to. There are many similarities between Digimon and Pokemon, but that does not necessarily mean that they will cross-over. I will admit that the potential is more apparent than once before. To be fair, Agumon in Smash would help establish some precedent for this theory. I am just murky on the details of who owns the television/film rights to Digimon. Is that still Namco?I will write my theory of why I believe Digimon and Pokémon will meet soon:
The answer is very simple and is called Mega Evolution. I had never seen anything so identical to Digimon within the Pokémon universe, even the name is the same (in Japan it is called Warp and in the US is called Mega), but the features and even some formats are similar.
1 - The Mega evolving Pokémon is a temporary one, your monster will return to normal after a while. The same goes with Digimon.
2 - The Pokémon will return to normal after spending all energy. The same with Digimon.
3 - The Mega evolution is rare to happen between Pokémon. The same with Digimon.
4 - The trainer needs a device to create a Mega evolution. Digivices?
5 - The DNA symbol used in Mega evolution is also used in Digievolutions.
6 - The sentimental link between the Pokémon and the trainer is the same with the Digimon and his chosen ones.
7 - The level of power used by Mega forms of Pokémon is extremely high and could equate to some strong Digimon.
8 - The appearance of Mega Pokemon is just a modification of the original form, just like Digimon.
9 - They will even shout "Mega evolve Charizard!" , Identical to Digimon!
Needless to mention that Porygon is practically a Digimon. He could easily connect the two worlds.
But the fact is that these Mega evolving Pokémon is a blatant copy of Mega Digievolutions. And I believe this will be the starting point for a meeting between the two universes, especially now with Namco Bandai and Nintendo working together.
Below are some images of the facts:
While I agree that Mega Evolutions (and quite a few other raising features) were taken from Digimon, which the Pokemon Company might not see as a major competitor now that it has fallen out of the limelight. But because the similarities exist (and similarities existed beforehand) does not mean a crossover is imminent. The Pokemon Company is hesitant to do any sort of crossovers outside Smash. This should be made very apparent by how few games the Pokemon amiibo can actually work on (it's a miracle in my eyes that Pokemon can be used in Super Mario Maker). A crossover with a former competitor seems very out-of-character for the Pokemon Company no matter how awesome it would be.I will write my theory of why I believe Digimon and Pokémon will meet soon:
The answer is very simple and is called Mega Evolution. I had never seen anything so identical to Digimon within the Pokémon universe, even the name is the same (in Japan it is called Warp and in the US is called Mega), but the features and even some formats are similar.
1 - The Mega evolving Pokémon is a temporary one, your monster will return to normal after a while. The same goes with Digimon.
2 - The Pokémon will return to normal after spending all energy. The same with Digimon.
3 - The Mega evolution is rare to happen between Pokémon. The same with Digimon.
4 - The trainer needs a device to create a Mega evolution. Digivices?
5 - The DNA symbol used in Mega evolution is also used in Digievolutions.
6 - The sentimental link between the Pokémon and the trainer is the same with the Digimon and his chosen ones.
7 - The level of power used by Mega forms of Pokémon is extremely high and could equate to some strong Digimon.
8 - The appearance of Mega Pokemon is just a modification of the original form, just like Digimon.
9 - They will even shout "Mega evolve Charizard!" , Identical to Digimon!
Needless to mention that Porygon is practically a Digimon. He could easily connect the two worlds.
But the fact is that these Mega evolving Pokémon is a blatant copy of Mega Digievolutions. And I believe this will be the starting point for a meeting between the two universes, especially now with Namco Bandai and Nintendo working together.
Below are some images of the facts: