vericz's PT--Tourney vids and singles vids!!!

vericz · Mar 13, 2008

Changed title since this isnt just charizard anymore. Any questions you may have i can help!!

Doubles from the tourney are up, i got winners, losers, and grand finals, I play PT in all of them.
Couldnt beat reno and crom (Snake and Meta)

batsman415 · Mar 13, 2008

He's good, but I like using all 3 of the pokemon the same, but yes i get very happy when Charizards up to bat.

CharizardFan · Mar 14, 2008

It's good to hear, that not everyone sees Charizard solely as a "switchdevice" for Squirtle.

I'd like to see the videos of you, vericz.

Mario & Sonic Guy · Mar 14, 2008

Charizard sure is a decent character to use. It may be a bit slow, but it sure strikes quicker than Bowser.

Dreiko · Mar 14, 2008

I thin zard alone > ike...sure he doesn't' Ko from 50%...but he has a much better recovery and flamethrower >>>>>> ike's explosion in just about everything and their speeds are similar.

PopeOfChiliTown · Mar 14, 2008

I love Charizard.

His dash speed combined with his grab range makes tech chasing effective and fun, and they gave him amazing tilts for zoning, combined with great aerials and an awesome jab. He's heavy, he never dies. In a while people will start to realize that they only like Squirtle because he's easier to use.

vericz · Mar 14, 2008

batsman415 said:
He's good, but I like using all 3 of the pokemon the same, but yes i get very happy when Charizards up to bat.

I like using all 3 as well but why switch when I can 3 stock people with charizard alone!! Like I said I have gotten a few up-b kills (fly i think) when characters like fox are at 50%. I'll get some vids up later today, Right now I just have 2

Dreiko · Mar 14, 2008

vericz said:
I like using all 3 as well but why switch when I can 3 stock people with charizard alone!! Like I said I have gotten a few up-b kills (fly i think) when characters like fox are at 50%. I'll get some vids up later today, Right now I just have 2

Most people have already done that...no need to post vids lol.

vericz · Mar 14, 2008

Dreiko said:
Most people have already done that...no need to post vids lol.

.......ok

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Ferio_Kun · Mar 14, 2008

I wouldn't mind seeing some of the vids.

vericz · Mar 14, 2008

Ferio_Kun said:
I wouldn't mind seeing some of the vids.

Yea, I'm still goin to put them up, after work though.

Black/Light · Mar 14, 2008

Dreiko said:
Most people have already done that...no need to post vids lol.

If he says he is really good with Char than I have no idle why theres no need to post the vids to show us. I love Char, he is the most reliable pokemon I have with PT (Ivy is a close 2nd and Squirt is. . . Im trying to get more comfy in the air with him.) but I still have problems killing with him without becoming someones sand bag for a well.

Brawl is now in melee's place. . . we need good vids to learn (or copy. . ) from

ClarkJables · Mar 14, 2008

Mario_and_Sonic_Guy said:
Charizard sure is a decent character to use. It may be a bit slow, but it sure strikes quicker than Bowser.

i can actually own charizard pretty easy wit bowser

NeoHippie41 · Mar 14, 2008

Yeah, why wouldn't he post some vids? I'd like to see a good Charizard. He's ignored in a lot of the videos I've seen.

TheDanRathersProject · Mar 14, 2008

I always laugh whenever I short hop while smashing rocks with my head, it's just a comical move that makes my buddies mad.

Kemious · Mar 14, 2008

My involvement with Charizard mostly depends on what type of match, who I'm playing and what kinda stage. In Time I end up using him in the last 45 seconds or so. I dont like using him Larger stages and against smaller character in one on one battles. However in Larger stages and Free for alls he is king

Knyaguy · Mar 14, 2008

My fav charizard combo is U-Smash to Fly. It is the stuff of which legends are made from.

vericz · Mar 15, 2008

sorry about no vids today, had work and just got home. But i have a tournament tomorrow that is sure to record vids so ill record the saved films i have as well as tourney matches and post them up. It won't all be charizard, got to add some variety.

And yes, rock smash is a nice approach. People get really messed up with the hitbox after charizard breaks the rock and it leads to a grab afterward.

batsman415 · Mar 15, 2008

Knyaguy said:
My fav charizard combo is U-Smash to Fly. It is the stuff of which legends are made from.

Quoted because i love this too. Almost as much as an ivysaur nair to bullet seed.....

Versatile818 · Mar 16, 2008

Quick, someone give me some tips on KOing with Fly. I suck with it and rarely use it offensively. It looks like such a cool move like Rock Smash, and I'd love to take advantage of it. >_>

Suo · Mar 16, 2008

Versatile: Charizards fly is great as an aerial KO, it has super armor frames throughout almost the whole move, so its uninteruptable.

My staple use of it is to get an opponent up into the air, whether its upsmash, uptilt, or rocksmash etc. and then use charizards three jumps to hang around, lining up an attack, or baiting an airdodge, then punish with Fly, it's most important that you hit them with the end of the move, which contains the KO hit.

Yukiwarashi · Mar 16, 2008

I've finally learned to love Charizard, thanks to Card's guide. Like him, I also thought of Charizard as the least reliable but he really is full of power. The only thing is, I wish he was heavier. I'm really not seeing the tankish side of him at all. ._. I always switch him in when Ivysaur is around 110-120 %, maybe that's why...

yule4 · Mar 16, 2008

It's all about Charizards fair, best edgegaurd move in the game!

TechnoMonster · Mar 16, 2008

Don't forget N-air for edgeguarding.

TheLake · Mar 16, 2008

And Bair of course.

vericz · Mar 16, 2008

TheLake said:
And Bair of course.

Yes, bair is a great move not only for edgeguarding but for pushing them out, it has lots of knockback. Also with the fly, be sure to bait the airdodge first, if you miss you will be punished easy cause charizard falls so slow. Tourney host will be uploading vids within the next few days

slave1 · Mar 17, 2008

vericz where are your vids

Lightsaberboy · Mar 17, 2008

rock smash is great. you'd think charizard would get major headaches after constantly bashing his head into huge chunks of rock XD

Kemious · Mar 17, 2008

Yeah the range if it is really deceptive. I love catching people off guarding. Making it seem like I missed or something only for them to go flying.

vericz · Mar 17, 2008

slave1 said:
vericz where are your vids

I didnt record the tourney host did, he has the vids but ill link you to the tourney page. I got second in doubles with my friend zoro who uses toon link. PT is difficult in doubles. We only lost to a snake/meta team.

I got 7th in singles, lost to snake(the guy from doubles, sooo good) and then kirby. Vs the kirby my rocksmash hit a shyguy =/ right in front of kirby who was at 150+ so he was spared lol.

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vericz · Mar 27, 2008

Vids are up more to come

fire_wulf · Mar 27, 2008

PT players... please lets not forget the beauty that is charizard tilts. I love is air moves just as much as the next PT main... but his tilts are where i get the KO's against my friends. His Dtilt is crazy good for getting KO's and is quick to boot. forward tilt gets them when they are just out of range of the dtilt and has crazy knockback. Utilt is a personal preference choice when you don't want to do the up smash.

I also play all three though... with Ivy being my best and squirtle and charizard kinda on equal playing field.

vericz · Mar 28, 2008

fire_wulf said:
PT players... please lets not forget the beauty that is charizard tilts. I love is air moves just as much as the next PT main... but his tilts are where i get the KO's against my friends. His Dtilt is crazy good for getting KO's and is quick to boot. forward tilt gets them when they are just out of range of the dtilt and has crazy knockback. Utilt is a personal preference choice when you don't want to do the up smash.

I also play all three though... with Ivy being my best and squirtle and charizard kinda on equal playing field.

Yep, tru

I use all 3 as well, I just always start as charizard cause i believe he is the best choice. Other players may have different preferences though. And Ivy is sooooo hard to use vs kirby its crazy. I have a bunch of 1v1s that will be up soon.

Darr06 · Mar 29, 2008

how can u control who u sart the match as?

infernovia · Mar 29, 2008

Point to the character in the portrait (when you choose PT, the bottom will show all 3) and press A.

vericz, you definitely have a bad habit of spamming rock smash which has made you lose a ton with Charizard. When you started using grabs and jabs, it was almost like rock smash was given a second life. But I am impressed nonetheless. I have a question though, is flamethrower that bad of a move? I think in a lot of situations you could have used flamethrower instead of rocksmash, I was wondering why you preferred rock smash.

Oh and lol on shorthopped Ivysaur Dair. Not being mean or anything, but I don't think I have seen anything as useless as that. I also suggest withdraw with squirtle when you want to recover as you are invulnerable (except when someone hops on you) and you fall pretty quick (I only saw it on one or two videos, maybe you already figured out how to recover better).

JiangWei23 · Mar 29, 2008

Thank you all for these tips, guys, I always felt I performed the worst with Charizard. I always do amazing with Squirtle and Ivysaur, but when it comes down to Charizard the change in speed always threw me off. Also, Charizard's big claim to fame is that he's a survivor, but for some reason I always get KO'd once I get Charizard. >_>

So, any general tips to help out with everybody's favorite Fire/Flying type? I know he has the potential to be a killer, I just don't know how to harness it well.

Noob question too: What's a shorthop? Is it just barely jumping in order to use an air move?

infernovia · Mar 30, 2008

Shorthop is when you let go of the jump button in the crouching animation (that moment on the ground before you get to the air) which halves the jump height. Mainly used to diversify approaches. So essentially, I think you got the idea. In the video, rocksmashed is almost always shorthopped.

I recommend Card's Guide before you ask for help as it usually answers a lot of things. PopeOfChilliTown has a more focused guide on Ivysaur and Charizard. As a general advice, and something you don't see in these videos, try to use his tilts as they come out pretty fast and are very useful. Dtilt comes out super fast and can be cancelled to jabs. I think it overshadows the ftilt, but Ftilt can sweetspot.

vericz · Apr 5, 2008

Updated title since new vids are up

ice_cream_man · Apr 18, 2008

needs more cowbell.

Dynamism? · Apr 18, 2008

I love all 3 of the pokes so much...aw...I think I'm in love.

But first, after watching these vids I must say... "you want some of me? ROCK SMASH!"

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