UTrick'd2, OVER! Mafia wins!

[#HBC | Gorf]

The question is wether you allow Ryker to take that power position with his vote.

I'm confident enough in my town read on em to not care about what he does wrt his pressure on Acro at this point. And I don't think he'd be dumb enough to quickhammer. If I didn't want to allow Ryker the power in his head, I wouldn't have my vote on em. It just doesn't matter to me if Ryker thinks he has the power or not here... It's much more productive than JUST waiting for people to post.

 

[Meadowsizzle]

I (Sold2) should have called V/LA earlier. I'll have to read through later, I'm still busy for the remainder of this morning.

I'm seeing things about hammers...

 

[Zeke the Moth]

I regret that I have not posted as much as I'd like. Tournament Saturday that I should have V/LA'd for.

BUT I DIDN'T, BECAUSE I'M THE GOD DAMN BATMAN.

Thoughts later today.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Why do they cut toilet paper into such small squares? I don't know how you'd use only one, unless you like to live on the edge or something.

Vote Count
Ryker [0]
Soup [0]
Brosuke[0]
Werekill[0]
Kantrip [0]
Acrostic [5] - Kantrip, Meadowsizzle, Brosuke, Gord, Felipe
Joey[0]
Felipe[0]
LAK[0]
Inferno[1] - Soup
Zeke The Moth[0]
Meadowsizzle[1] - LAK
Gordito [0]
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Not voting: Werekill, Joey, Zeke The Moth, Acrostic, Inferno, Ryker

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch! Deadline for D1 is set at November 26th at 11:59 PM!

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Vote: Meadowsizzle

That's totally not an Acrostic vote. Fix it.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

You better answer me Ryker.

 

[Dooms]

Not voting Acrostic until I read fully and see the reasoning Ta-don. Even then it'll be delayed and probably not happen until the 23rd-24th because hammer when theres still 4-5 days left sounds dumb Ta-don~!

 

[Zeke the Moth]

But I did read...Glyph just ninja'd me.

Vote: Zeke the Moth

Ryker - What do you intend to do to spearhead through RVS as fast as possible? Are you going to ignore it entirely, or are you going to attempt to push through it from the frontlines?
Soup - Do you think there is anyone in this game you can read better than others, Soup? Also, how likely do you think it is that you may replace out of this game?
Brosuke - Hey Brosuke, I don't recall playing mafia with you before. My impression of you is that you know your way around the ropes, though. What would you say about this assumption? Is it accurate? Who are you going to be watching closely in this game; anyone you are wary of?
Werekill - Do you plan on staying more rational and level-headed in this game than you were in Majora's Mask? If yes, how do you hope to accomplish this?
Acrostic - Hey Acrostic, what'd random.org tell you? If you actually do use it, how long does your tunneling generally last?
Joey - What is your mafia experience? Who have you played with on the player list before? Who do you feel confident reading?
Felipe - Would you advocate your own lynch if there were no other targets, felipe? Do you agree with this statement: You have the possibility to be a liability in lategame as you are an easy mislynch for scum. Why or why not?
LAK - This is John and Red Ryu, correct? That is an interesting hydra. Having played with the combined members of this hydra quite a few times now, do you feel you will be able to read me well?
Inferno - You don't get any RVS questions. How does that make you feel? Oops, I guess you do after all.
Zeke The Moth - This is Raziek and Shadow Moth? I haven't played with you before, Shadow Moth, though I recall your name. What is the most recent game you have played in? Who was in that game and is also in this game? Raziek, if we had to policy lynch someone right this second who would you choose?
Meadowsizzle - And this is the Sold2 / WashedLaundry hydra? Sold, with how many set-ups you have reviewed amongst the games I am sure you have played, you must have some good set-up speculation abilities. Do you think those will be useful in this game, being that is a UPick? @Laundry, who do you feel most confident in reading in this game?
Gordito - I call you Gorf, right? I've seen others do it in games I've read. Not that I remember anything from them What is your opinion on the playerlist? Who is vigbait, in your opinion?

Vote: No Lynch

I think this is the best RVS vote. No one ever throws their RVS vote here. What are your thoughts, No Lynch? If I told you I got mod-confirmed information you were an independent survivor, what would you say, No Lynch?

Policy lynch choice would be Soup, easily. He's bound to herp sooner or later.

Do you seriously need to ask the former question? Set-up speculation is borderline useless and just sets up unnecessary WIFOM.

I like this post.

Not so much following as so much letting the game flow and flowing with it, if i need to take commision once or twice, i will, but right now i'm trying not to laugh at Ryker and his obvious flavor.

Unvote Vote: Kantrip

Unvote Vote Kantrip.
You've got the right idea gorf, he's shaking like a leaf.
how are your nipples anyway? don't get too close to me.

Kantrip, how come you're all big bad and tough or want to seem it, yet you apologize so much for your bravado?
it doesn't make sense from the pressure or reaction you are trying to apply.

There you go again, Kantrip, you get all huff puff, how long is it going to take for you to apologize to me after the tables turn on you? can you keep this tough guy act up?

Kantrip, let's talk.
a one on one feel huggy hurt feelings got dumped by a girl talk.

I really think you're starting off on the wrong foot, questions are nice and everything but if you're trying to make a statement you have to keep the pressure on, when you instantly apologized for your actions, it seemed like your were scared about how people would react to you, and that lead to a weird read on you, because it seemed like you wanted to come in with a BANG yet you fizzle sometimes.

keep your mind assertive but know what you are doing, you're tripping all over yourself which is making you scummy.

This sequence of events is pretty disgusting. From outright admitting he's going to follow, to actually VISIBLY doing so, to then trying to act like he's wearing big boy pants and assume a position of power. Bandwagoning pressure then acting like you started it so you'll benevolently let him go? Bleck.

Vote: Soupamario.

BEGIN PAGE 3.

 

[Zeke the Moth]

4, rather. Derp.

 

[Zeke the Moth]

I like Gorf right now for being the first to vote me. The pro-town intentions there are pretty clear: He's never played with me and wanted to see how I reacted to the pressure of his vote. Soup and Meadow are null for it, it really only tells me something that Gorf thought to do it first.

BLECK. This is null at best. Kantrip is playing the agreeable townie guise, and I don't like it.

OH MY GOD UNVOTE VOTE KANTRIP.

I honestly think you are a part of an anti town faction. And I think anybody should think this at this point.

Gordito, I like you.

Fair enough, Mr. Ruby Brandy Meadowsizzle III.

And this page still ends with Soup needing to die.

SO SAYS THE GODDAMN BATMAN.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Where IS Soup?

 

[Zeke the Moth]

Vote: Kantrip

This play is just awful in so many ways of the word.

This vote raises a red flag. Not sure why, but I haven't been wrong on my red flags lately.

Those quotes are a horrible butchering of my grammar, but eh.

That answer was reasonable, Soup.

Unvote

-sigh-

This happens to me every game. I'll stop posting now.

BARF.

Vote Soup .

You're a swell guy.

@Inferno: Coming from New Jersey, are you a Jew by any chance? I know that there is a strong Jewish community generally around the East Coast. I personally have some level of interest in orthodox Jews, reformed Jews not so much. Mazeltov.

@Werekill: I'm curious, why do you think that D1 has less importance than other days in a mafia game. Would you kindly give me some of your reasons?

@Meadowsizzle: Is everything okay? :l



Because if this is a joke, I don't get it. And is there any particular reason why you feel embarrassed? Is one of you going to go missing? :l

@Kantrip: The results of my random.org searches are top-secret and not for pedestrian knowledge at the moment. After all, if I told you my results, my mission would be jeopardized and I would have to hang up my super secret agent tuxedo.

Vote: Soupamario

During RVS|Confirmation phase, Soupamario's tone in the following posts: #32 and #60 indicate that he has a sustained interest in this game for a duration of half a day. He even points out the fourth letter rule in order to speed the process through confirmation in order to have the game start. This "enthusiasm" doesn't last however, as we witness him taking on a very different tone three hours into D1:

Soupamario was as stoked about this game as Asdioh was to Skyrim. Soupamario made a conscientious decision within RVS to change how he decided to approach the game. Based on the information presented, I am under the impression that his reason is underlied by scum intent.

This reasoning is goddamn stanky.

Soupamario didn't hard claim and I would prefer if he did not, I want to see what will come of it.

Unvote: Soupamario

Soupamario's flavor hint to my pressure vote was townie.

I am twelve and what is this?

Unvote Vote Acrostic

SECOND.

I don't even know what's going on in here anymore.

Vote Ryker

You're making me hate you.

I was joking anyways, don't worry. It's ridiculous and anti-town to request a wagon get to L-2 just for Ryker to explain it. It leads me to believe there is no explanation.

First, when were we out.

Second, Acrostic is scum, probably.

Third, Kantrip is about as good at reading things as Turner.

Not seeing Acrostic scum for sure yet, but his reasoning is disgusting.

I like Meadowsizzle, Gorf, Ryker.

Soup MUST die.

Kantrip and Acrostic are dumb.

Inferno set off a flag.

/endpage5notes.

I'M THE GODDAMN BATMAN.

 

[Zeke the Moth]

Oh wow.

I hope that's sarcasm.

No, no he isn't. And that's why you're scum.
Sure, I guess, but so is anyone.

I could say right now that I'm not Crocker and I am instead Trixie Tang, Town Pretty Princess. I would claim that I had put my "flavor" out there simply as a red herring so that I wouldn't be night killed because god knows that Crocker isn't going to be a cop or a doc, much less a princess. You know what you would do about it? Jack ****. I would have a perfectly plausible explanation and am town.

You know what? I could be Gaston, the manliest scum ever, and be faking Crocker completely. I have to act superior to everyone in the game, but that doesn't mean I can't post all caps messages about Fairy God Parents every few posts. You know what? You would never guess it AND I could change my claim to Trixie Tang, Town Pretty Princess, or anything else I can imagine so long as I make it believable. You know what you'll do about it? Jack ****.

No, what you're proposing has absolutely no bearing on Soup's alignment because, as scum, he could be hinting flavor to make you say he wouldn't hint at his flavor. You know that, I know that. It's common sense. No, you know he's town, as only scum or a mason partner would. Masons have no reason to act like that, so we throw out that possibility.

You're scum. You're looking to put Soup on your town list so you can get the credit for it and to help manipulate him because God knows he's obstinate when he's on anyone's scum list except mine or Kuz's. You want to keep him on your little list of townies until you can safely do away with him because he's an easy as balls mislynch to push at any point in the game and he doesn't enough **** that you can 180 off of him blamelessly.

****'s not rocket science. Go die forever.

Fine.

Unvote, Vote: Acrostic

Ryker, this half of the hydra wants you to know that he loves you.

What's Acrostic at?

Kantrip's still dumb. Acrostic gets more scummy.

/endpage6

GODDAMN BATMAN.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Where IS Soup?

Huh why do you ask?

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Doing this thread over again without the Soupa specs:

Ew I should have spaced that. Oh well. Also @LAK, if I told you I wanted to avoid the tradition of pressuring you every game we play together, what would you say?

What type of response were you trying to get with regards to this post? Would this have actually given you an alignment read on LAK? :l

Not rational? Really? Accusing you of being scummy when you were being ****ing scummy is irrational? I can already tell that this is going to be a fun game. :/ Tell me why I was being irrational, or I'm calling this OMGUS because someone's little feelings got hurt when I accused him of something. I got un level headed when I was, you know, about to be mislynched. I'm not liking this here; it's almost like you're trying to set me up later for a quick "oh you're being a ******* like in MM" accusation. If you're not, feel free to set the record straight.

I don't believe that OMGUS is the appropriate term to use. Even if it was an OMGUS and a meta-judgment, would that have an influence on your read on Kantrip?

color me impressed for using a word i had to look up. hell, color me impressed for this intro post. when the **** did you get this observant?

I laughed.

I'm not asking for the sake of having set-up speculation come up in this game. I was asking because I was curious.

Did you gain any alignment reads from Meadowsizzle's slot by using this question. Because it's a question that I posed in Higurashi mafia and although I said it was null, I did get some information from it.

Whoa hold on there Werekill. I did not mean to offend you or insinuate anything with my question. If it upset you, then I apologize. I understand what happened in Majora's Mask and I'm not trying to get at you for it or anything. I'll leave that at that as the game is ongoing.

First off, you can't deny that your emotions showed in some instances, as they are now. By rational and level-headed I only meant that you would keep your cool. Like, you know, stay compose. I am not trying to say anything about your play, or about how you read, or about your skill as a player AT ALL. I also did not intend to set myself up for saying "oh you're being a ******* like in MM".

I wanted to get a read with my questions to you, I wasn't trying to offend you or anything.

The way with which you responded is answer enough for me.

I don't believe that you are seriously offended by what I said, so I won't have to apologize for it or take it back. Besides, I'm not taking back what I asked of Werekill. I'm apologizing if I offended him on a personal level. The questions still stand, but I think I got a read on him for his reaction already.

If you don't mind, what is your read on Werekill?

Also, yes I felt like something about my play is not and has not been working in games I've been playing recently. I guess this approach didn't really work either.

How exactly were you trying to approach the game and also what didn't work with the play style that you were trying to use during RVS. Also what type of information were you trying to get based on your play style.

I like Gorf right now for being the first to vote me. The pro-town intentions there are pretty clear: He's never played with me and wanted to see how I reacted to the pressure of his vote. Soup and Meadow are null for it, it really only tells me something that Gorf thought to do it first.

Seriously.

Here's the lowdown on me, for future reference, Kantrip. I tend to get emotional when I massively think someone is scum, when someone insults me (ESPECIALLY as a defence), and when I'm in real lynch danger. That's how I play, and it's how I'm gonna roll. But yeah, you're forgiven. Next time, say something like: "Hey, try not to go so emotional at times, haha. A few times back in 'ole MM I thought that you were gonna kill everyone in sight." or something like that. The way you said it just didn't... Come across to me as nice, ya know? Anyway, trying to form thoughts on the soupa and Kan wagons that are building.

Have you formed a read yet on either Soupa or Kantrip yet based on what you've looked over so far?

I agree with Soup in that there might be townie intent within your posts, but honestly, it's too early in the Day to really come to any conclusions.

Does this mean that you felt that Kantrip's early posts were fundamentally scummy? Y/N You stated that there "might be townie intent", but did you see town intent from the posts when you initially did your read through?

How about this? I can assume you and him are scummates because you like to vote for your own scummates a lot without reasoning. I've seen it on several occasions.

Kantrip, how genuine was this statement?

@Acrostic, what do you think about the case against Kantrip, and how do you feel about me/meadowsizzle at this point?

I don't really see a case against Kantrip asides the point brought up that he's flailing. I didn't really like his jump on to Soupamario and his town read on you. However, I was more curious why Soupamario decided to defend/protect Kantrip during this exchange and insist that he was a newbie flailing rather than trying to get reads.

Not sure at what point Kantrip was viewed as being scum for this interaction. I don't think that his questions were effective, however I think that his poor questions in initiating the day have led him into a bad predicament. If Werekill got pissed off at something I typed, then I would probably do what Kantrip did, because I tend to be a B-type person and a pacificst. Kantrip's alignment is dependent upon his later game actions in comparison to his play in the past.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Zeke, I'm at L-2.

 

[Dooms]

I read the acrostic reasoning specifically, and I can say that it is great reasoning and that I'm willing to vote Acrostic when we get closer to deadline if need be Ta-don~.

However, I will also say that I dislike Kantrip/Soupa more for their horrible play that I will explain either when I get home or tomorrow depending on what I need to do for homework Ta-don~.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Huh why do you ask?

Just noticing his lack of posting for a while O_O

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

And you felt the need to just throw that out there because...?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

'Twas on my mind.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Skimmed through, didn't like Soup, didn't like Gorf (mad RVS predictions). Thinking Ryker is misreading Acro but then again I suck at reading Acro so I'm not gonna comment for now. Like I legitly thought Soup was scummy and just then Ryker voted him so I was like cool and then he switched to Acro and I was like oh god Lemme do some better reading.

What do you dislike about Soup, what do you dislike about Gorf?

I see what you're seeing Ryker, but on the other hand, I've talked with Acro so often. He over thinks things massively and stuff like this happens. Yeah I wanna see more from Acro. This Soupa stuff isn't enough to convince me. unvote, vote: Acro til I can stop second guessing him.

I don't like this paragraph. I feel like Brosuke is walking both sides of the line with his beginning giving meta justification that me distributing a town read on Soupamario is a town tell. Then the second half consists of me over thinking that I'm scum. Mostly this paragraph is vague and leaves me with very little sense of what discrepancies Brosuke found in my play.

Acro gimme something that's not you vs ryker/soup

I think Meadowsizzle and Gordito capitalized on Kantrip asking poor questions initially during RVS. I think that poor RVS construction led to Kantrip taking easy hits and he got pressured to the point of rescinding his prior direction, although him elaborating on what he hoped those questions would accomplish is more important than the questions themselves. Meadow|Gordito hoping on bad play makes me think that they are going to be looking at the game on a surface basis. It could be an indication of bored town, however I would look into these slots into the future if they decide to play differently without having further justified basis. Soupamario's defense of Kantrip is also something that should be explained. I don't know if Soupamario had an early town read on Kantrip or is empathizing with him based on conditions, however that should be elaborated for the future. I want to see what Werekill's thoughts on his exchange with Kantrip were, as her not taking a stance could be either him taking a similar stance wrt my thoughts on Kantrip or him fence sitting. Ryker is null, most because I can't read people who pressure me such as J in FF IX and Gheb in Higurashi.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I don't like that, Gorf.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm sorry, as town I have no reason to withhold information ya feels me bro?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Epic ninja.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Great information, Gorf.

Also, Acro, I'd like three reasons why town asks questions. Now.
And my dislike of Gorf/Soup is based mostly on gut feeling. I posted earlier about Gorf just seeming way offbeat (like above) and Soup is just him playing "armchair mafia" and for example his OVERCONVENIENT read list (which doesnt even matter **** in that stage of the game yet) raised some red flags for sure.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'd like to dig more into it when I have more material and have some time to read some postlogs. It's getting close to bedtime now and brain is not running at 100%. For now just consider the above post an example.

case1: Is Gorf distancing with Soup now that Soup gets heat? A mafiapartner would never ask such a thing, right?
case2: Is it really him wondering where Soup is?

I don't see a reason why he would randomly post that, it contributes nothing, so I'm more inclined to believe the first case to be true.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Great information, Gorf. Also, Acro, I'd like three reasons why town asks questions. Now. And my dislike of Gorf/Soup is based mostly on gut feeling. I posted earlier about Gorf just seeming way offbeat (like above) and Soup is just him playing "armchair mafia" and for example his OVERCONVENIENT read list (which doesnt even matter **** in that stage of the game yet) raised some red flags for sure.

a. To gauge relative interest in how much one player slot has an interest in others i.e. associations.
b. To bring up things they find questionable or confusion i.e. information.
c. To build a case against another or to being a press on another player i.e. deconstruction and lynching.

Tbh, don't see why you would ask me this.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Unvote

He's trying to gague active thought from you. For example, what do YOU think about Brosuke's 426? Do you agree/disagree with any of his cases, do you find significance in my inquiry of where Soup is?

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Unvote He's trying to gague active thought from you. For example, what do YOU think about Brosuke's 426? Do you agree/disagree with any of his cases, do you find significance in my inquiry of where Soup is?

I didn't notice that Soupamario was getting heat. I've been on the last couple of pages. If I don't catch it on re-read then Brosuke is going to point out where Soupamario was getting heavily fossed, as I was only aware that there was a prevalent wagon on me. I noted that Soupa was only going to be V/LA and should be present today if nothing else came up. Therefore I don't find it particularly telling that someone asks where another player has been. I believe that the interaction though is too transparent to really derive anything from it and I would ignore it.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Like I legitemately don't like people who ask others for their read on X/Y. If they want you to know they probably would've told you.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

I didn't notice that Soupamario was getting heat. I've been on the last couple of pages. If I don't catch it on re-read then Brosuke is going to point out where Soupamario was getting heavily fossed, as I was only aware that there was a prevalent wagon on me. I noted that Soupa was only going to be V/LA and should be present today if nothing else came up. Therefore I don't find it particularly telling that someone asks where another player has been. I believe that the interaction though is too transparent to really derive anything from it and I would ignore it.

If Soupamario apologized to you for not being present today, I would find that something more telling to look into as it reminds me of Kantrip|th3kuzinator's interaction in Awkward Moments mafia which made me curious as to whether or not scum would apologize to their own partner. I got shimmied bad by this because it ended up being a traitor|mafia interaction which skewed my read.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

a. To gauge relative interest in how much one player slot has an interest in others i.e. associations.
b. To bring up things they find questionable or confusion i.e. information.
c. To build a case against another or to being a press on another player i.e. deconstruction and lynching.

Lets put your post to the Xonar™ test! (with the support of Acrostic Question & CO) : D

(you don't have to read the whole post I'm just making a statement that I find your post fluffy and your questions fruitless and pretentious. I feel 0 pressure coming from you (inb4vibessuck).)

I must say I'll add another one to C and that's that it puts pressure on the one you're questioning. Fair enough, imo.

What type of response were you trying to get with regards to this post? Would this have actually given you an alignment read on LAK? :l

a. Associations? Failed the test.
b. Information? Failed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

You can make a case for B but really you wouldn't get anything out of this answer more than a generic answer. Next.

What are you doing.

Fluff.

Why didn't you want to press on Kantrip? I would think that pressing on him would get us out of RVS rather than letting it slip.

a. Associations? Failed the test.
b. Information? Failed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

See, I made it fail C because this is just randomly put in this post. If you legitimately think Soupa is scummy, why don't you make a post about it? This way it has no coherent form and is far from actual PRESSURE.

[...]If it was an OMGUS and a meta-judgment, would that have an influence on your read on Kantrip?

a. Associations? Failed the test.
b. Information? Failed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

And fluffy.
What do you expect out of this answer, anything other than the politically correct reply? Once again, a pressure-less C.

Also, note the way it's asked. It's a yes/no question, not an elaborate question. Removes even more pressure.

I laughed.

Fluff.

Did you gain any alignment reads from Meadowsizzle's slot by using this question. Because it's a question that I posed in Higurashi mafia and although I said it was null, I did get some information from it.

a. Associations? Passed the test.
b. Information? Passed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjHT5GpAYQ

If you don't mind, what is your read on Werekill?

a. Associations? Failed the test.
b. Information? Failed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

Seriously I made this fail B because this shouldn't bother you in the slightest.

How exactly were you trying to approach the game and also what didn't work with the play style that you were trying to use during RVS?

a. Associations? Failed the test.
b. Information? Failed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

Fluffy question. First half does matter a slight bit I guess but a self analysis... really?

Also what type of information were you trying to get based on your play style?

a. Associations? Failed the test.
b. Information? Failed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

Like wtf kinda question is this? Based on your playing style? I don't know where the **** this would be going... maybe you want to see how good Kantrip is? uhhh

Seriously.

Fluff.

Have you formed a read yet on either Soupa or Kantrip yet based on what you've looked over so far?

a. Associations? Passed the test.
b. Information? Failed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

Shouldn't bother you, really.

Does this mean that you felt that Kantrip's early posts were fundamentally scummy? Y/N You stated that there "might be townie intent", but did you see town intent from the posts when you initially did your read through?

a. Associations? Passed the test.
b. Information? Failed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

I don't see why this is important at all though. Fruitless.

Kantrip, how genuine was this statement?

a. Associations? Passed the test.
b. Information? Passed the test.
c. Deconstruction and lynching? Failed the test.

Only question I liked.

I don't really see a case against Kantrip asides the point brought up that he's flailing. I didn't really like his jump on to Soupamario and his town read on you. However, I was more curious why Soupamario decided to defend/protect Kantrip during this exchange and insist that he was a newbie flailing rather than trying to get reads.

I don't really know what to say about this. Wasn't this obvious to everyone already? I've stated multiple times that I dislike Soupa, don't people read up on why themselves and stuff? =/

Not sure at what point Kantrip was viewed as being scum for this interaction. I don't think that his questions were effective, however I think that his poor questions in initiating the day have led him into a bad predicament. If Werekill got pissed off at something I typed, then I would probably do what Kantrip did, because I tend to be a B-type person and a pacificst. Kantrip's alignment is dependent upon his later game actions in comparison to his play in the past.

Fluff with a half stance.


I honestly just didn't like it and I thought it was rather full of nothing.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Man I have trouble translating thoughts to words, add that to a language barrier and you get the PokeMafia fiasco =/

Any questions, please ask. Just like to second this>

Like I legitemately don't like people who ask others for their read on X/Y. If they want you to know they probably would've told you.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Just saw that I failed big time. To address some points you brought up, I asked Kantrip for his read on Werekill because he seemed to back out of giving a read on Werekill despite him saying that he had one. The interaction struck me as him being concillatory and he didn't explain how he came to a read, which I remained curious.

As far as the three standards go, associations in questions are not usually directly seen within itself. Take for instance, th3kuzinator in AM mafia who asked questions D1 to everyone on the player list, and spared only one or two for his partner. Questions themselves have importance, sure. But if mafia are decent, they aren't going to slip up on something such as a straight answer in terms of outing their partners. Case composition sometimes work in a similar manner unless there is a particular direction i.e. Ryker/Kantrip asking me questions to break down the rationale I had for finding a town tell on Soup. Question to information is also swingy, but I will admit that there are points I will abandon when doing page 2 page reading after I decide on what to do.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I didn't notice that Soupamario was getting heat. I've been on the last couple of pages. If I don't catch it on re-read then Brosuke is going to point out where Soupamario was getting heavily fossed, as I was only aware that there was a prevalent wagon on me. I noted that Soupa was only going to be V/LA and should be present today if nothing else came up. Therefore I don't find it particularly telling that someone asks where another player has been. I believe that the interaction though is too transparent to really derive anything from it and I would ignore it.

I'll cut you short.

He didn't get heavily fossed(?) but Zeke started on him and I've stated that I dislike Soup, gotta extinguish the fire before it burns bridges blabla.

Yes I may be overreading I just thought it was offbeat for him to randomly say that is all.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Just saw that I failed big time. To address some points you brought up, I asked Kantrip for his read on Werekill because he seemed to back out of giving a read on Werekill despite him saying that he had one. The interaction struck me as him being concillatory and he didn't explain how he came to a read, which I remained curious.

As far as the three standards go, associations in questions are not usually directly seen within itself. Take for instance, th3kuzinator in AM mafia who asked questions D1 to everyone on the player list, and spared only one or two for his partner. Questions themselves have importance, sure. But if mafia are decent, they aren't going to slip up on something such as a straight answer in terms of outing their partners. Case composition sometimes work in a similar manner unless there is a particular direction i.e. Ryker/Kantrip asking me questions to break down the rationale I had for finding a town tell on Soup. Question to information is also swingy, but I will admit that there are points I will abandon when doing page 2 page reading after I decide on what to do.

Like I said, the content of my post didn't matter. It was to make a point that your post sucked.

I know how questions work tho, thank you very much =/

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Like I wanna leave this to Ryker because he might be able to get out of you what I can't get out of you.

A good look at your intent.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Like I wanna leave this to Ryker because he might be able to get out of you what I can't get out of you. A good look at your intent.

Let me streamline this post to something less sour and depreciating. If you had a one-shot vig ability that you had to use within five minutes of reading this, who would you use it on and for what reasons. How would this help dictate your move for the following day.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

D1 vigging when not everyone has posted yet? Amazing.

I'd rather not answer, due to the broken nature of the question and the fact that I really wouldn't shoot anybody within the last 5 minutes.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

D1 vigging when not everyone has posted yet? Amazing. I'd rather not answer, due to the broken nature of the question and the fact that I really wouldn't shoot anybody within the last 5 minutes.

Fair enough. It was a bad question. I'm also calling it quits for today.