Uses for PK Freeze? Help needed.

[Suway]

Hey,
So I've been maining Lucas for a while now, and I think I'm getting pretty good at playing him.
But I can't seem to find any good applications for his PK Freeze, and I don't like the sight of a non-used special.
Using it on an aerial attacker usually ends up with them airdodging it and then punishing me.
I've also been watching alot of Lucas videos from pretty good people. (In my eyes at least.)
And I hardly ever see them use it.(Let alone hit someone with it.)
Is Freeze just a bad special or can someone give me tips or something for applications during fights?

 

[ChaosTheoryX]

i personally almost never use pk freeze, and the ony time ill use it is if they are off stage. to me pk thunder is more effective if they are off stage try and air dodge it

edit: lawl fable 2

 

[spudzalot]

I use freeze every once in a while. But the other PK's are much better in almost every situation. But I do use it right after I die during those invincibility frames so I cant get punished.

 

[prOAPC]

use it for edge guard, specially vs recoveries like fox and ike's side b
if the opponent is in the air, press B but don't hold it, the enemy will air dodge and you can receive him with a jab combo, pk freeze has low lag after using it

 

[pyrimadines]

Like Pro said, PK Freeze does not have a lot of lag to it which is nice.
I use it in two situations: as an edgeguarding technique when I want to change it up from PKT, and as a baiting tool. I judge the distance between my opponent and myself then I do a short PK Freeze or a drawn out PK Freeze depending on whether I can use it space a little. My opponent can't resist just running in to abuse the lag, but by that point I'm already waiting and can attack with a jab or jab-canceled combo.

 

[Levitas]

I use it if I predict an aerial approach. Otherwise make sure it hits their sheild, that gives you enough time to start a jab combo before they hit you.

 

[Suway]

Ah, I always hold B and try to aim it..
I'll try some of the stuff mentioned.

 

[dawgbowl]

Against reflectors, throwing PK freezes is safer than PK thunders (when they are offstage)... Reflecting the PK freeze opens you up to move... reflecting a thunder leaves you helpless.

I'm not a huge fan of PK freeze but it isn't completely useless, just VERY situational.
(ledge guard PK freeze spikes are awesome though)

 

[ToxiCrow]

i rarely use it, even when there off the stage.
if the opponents percentage is high and it'll be a guarenteed ko, i'll hit them with it.
if not, i wont use it because it'll send them upwards and aid their recovery. so yeah i dont like it too much.

 

[Levitas]

I don't use it as an edgeguard. (except sometimes on fox illusions/falco phantasms, but don't tell)

I use it as a defensive yomi device that sometimes kinda works sorta.

 

[ToxiCrow]

I don't use it as an edgeguard. (except sometimes on fox illusions/falco phantasms, but don't tell)

I use it as a defensive yomi device that sometimes kinda works sorta.

i've tried it. do u fully charge it and then let go of B when the hexagon is on you??

 

[Irsic]

It's easy to predict peoples air dodges and follow them with the Freeze and then catch them as the air dodge ends.

PK Freeze really pressures people offstage because...even while the ability is easy to dodge, ...you still have to dodge it. It's a scary *** attack to be hit with too because you're basically stuck and Lucas is free to harass you, or it can stage spike you, and I've gotten Snake before at a relatively low %.

Also, low ending lag, etc. Bait, etc. It's not a bad skill, don't overuse it though or you'll get punished.