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Unofficial Project M Ridley - CLASSIC RIDLEY BETA RELEASED! 31/10/16

What is your opinion on this hack?


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BaganSmashBros

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Were you looking for suggestions on what else to do with it, or did you have something in mind? I don't know what I'd do off the top of my head, but I could research and think about it.
Not really. I have something in mind (proper tail replacement), but can't find parts for it. So, i wasn't looking for suggestions. And i now remember what i forgot (pelvis replacement), but i think its not necessary.
 

latinking

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Awesome work on that stage. Excellent progress on that Meta Ridley, and I'm absolutely hyped about the future Dark Samus mod of yours.

When this alternate costume is done, are you thinking of making his Air Down B create flame shockwaves when he lands? Only for aesthetic purposes of course, the damage should remain consistent with his regular Ridley version of the attack.

Also, will you be releasing this at the same time as the next Ridley update (with new jab attack and Fireball-reflect-bug fixed, etc)?
 
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Awesome work on that stage. Excellent progress on that Meta Ridley, and I'm absolutely hyped about the future Dark Samus mod of yours.

When this alternate costume is done, are you thinking of making his Air Down B create flame shockwaves when he lands? Only for aesthetic purposes of course, the damage should remain consistent with his regular Ridley version of the attack.

Also, will you be releasing this at the same time as the next Ridley update (with new jab attack and Fireball-reflect-bug fixed, etc)?
Thanks.

Yes. I will also do similar thing to few other attacks.

Yes...i think...
I'm losing salt that's gorgeous. Though the metal lacks the luster its still very very good.
Tail surgery...
Thanks.
Not the first time.
 
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OmegaX5000

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I'm not sure if this is true, but didn't that pelvis replacement keep Meta Ridley's legs and tail attached to his lower section? Ever since you brought it up, it's looked a bit weird without it, though I do like where this costume is going!
 

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That Meta is so incredibly beautiful....
Thanks.
I'm not sure if this is true, but didn't that pelvis replacement keep Meta Ridley's legs and tail attached to his lower section? Ever since you brought it up, it's looked a bit weird without it, though I do like where this costume is going!
Im not sure. It certainly attached the tail, but legs aren't fully replaced above shins.
 

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So, i succesfully added metallic shine to this model. Looks a lot better:

Now i just need to add pelvis replacement (i already know what to use for this one), recolor wing spikes and it will be done. Then i'll send it to beta testers to test for lag. If it will not lag with 2 Ridleys and 1 Meta Ridley (it will be impossible to have more than 1 Meta Ridley, so, no need to test with 2 or 3 Meta Ridleys and Ridley lags with 4 of them, so, no need to test with 3 Ridleys and 1 Meta Ridley or 4 Meta Ridleys), then i'll add it to the update. But it won't be released this week.
 
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So, i succesfully added metallic shine to this model. Looks a lot better:

Now i just need to add pelvis replacement (i already know what to use for this one), recolor wing spikes and it will be done. Then i'll send it to beta testers to test for lag. If it will not lag with 2 Ridleys and 1 Meta Ridley (it will be impossible to have more than 1 Meta Ridley, so, no need to test with 2 or 3 Meta Ridleys and Ridley lags with 4 of them, so, no need to test with 3 Ridleys and 1 Meta Ridley or 4 Meta Ridleys), then i'll add it to the update. But it won't be released this week.
Why are the wings white? is is the lighting?
 

latinking

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Several days ago, you mentioned that you weren't pleased with one of Ridley's victory animations (the one in which he breathes fire). In case you haven't thought of a replacement yet, what if you did something similar to Dedede's? He has one where a Waddle Dee is standing in front of him. Perhaps you could have Pirates reporting to Ridley?

The image you made in deviantart of Ridley standing behind his two Black Pirate guards could be a source of inspiration actually. Imagine the following:
At first, the 2 Pirates are in front of Ridley, with their backs turned towards the screen, looking at their leader (and he's looking down at them). Then, Ridley lifts his head slightly, to make eye contact with the screen. This causes the 2 Pirates to look over their shoulders towards the screen also. Suddenly, both guards do a quick 180 degree turn, with their claw guns open and pointed at the screen (or just doing a menacing stance). Throughout this entire animation, Ridley would be sitting in the pose you give him in your deviantart image (which reminds me of the way his Golden Statue was sitting in Super Metroid).
 
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Is there any possibility of making Ridley tilt his Final Smash in a different direction in a future update? If you can make him spit fire balls horizontally while in the air by tilting the control stick to the left or to the right, why not do the same in his FS?
 

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So I was looking at the default Baganley or whatever you call him and you said that it was based on his Super Metroid colors and I was think maybe you could make an alt that looks more like Super Metroid.

01 - Default Color.png

- The main thing is his color, he was a darker shade of purple is Super Metroid so use his Meta Ridley alt (not the real one you're working on right now) and make it more purple.

- His eye's were orange with no pupils so yeah ditch those.

-Color his wing spikes not counting the on two on top of them.

-Tail spike needs to be same color has his body.

-Remove his "sideburns" and the two small skin spikes on his wings.

-Wings need to be a little bit darker.

I don't know if you'll be able to do this right since you're working on the REAL Meta Ridley alt (which looks Badass BTW ) but if you can then I would really appreciate that since it looks like you won't be getting to Classic Ridley anytime soon.
 

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Are the textures on the Ridley's lair stage supposed to look like this?

It's a perfect stage, the hazard version is my favourite. I still find it a bit awkward how that one Space Pirate just stands on the main platform jumping back-and-forth watching, but I can just easily delete it, haha.
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Several days ago, you mentioned that you weren't pleased with one of Ridley's victory animations (the one in which he breathes fire). In case you haven't thought of a replacement yet, what if you did something similar to Dedede's? He has one where a Waddle Dee is standing in front of him. Perhaps you could have Pirates reporting to Ridley?

The image you made in deviantart of Ridley standing behind his two Black Pirate guards could be a source of inspiration actually. Imagine the following:
At first, the 2 Pirates are in front of Ridley, with their backs turned towards the screen, looking at their leader (and he's looking down at them). Then, Ridley lifts his head slightly, to make eye contact with the screen. This causes the 2 Pirates to look over their shoulders towards the screen also. Suddenly, both guards do a quick 180 degree turn, with their claw guns open and pointed at the screen (or just doing a menacing stance). Throughout this entire animation, Ridley would be sitting in the pose you give him in your deviantart image (which reminds me of the way his Golden Statue was sitting in Super Metroid).
File size limitations.
 

Depressedzombieluigi

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Hey Bagan, do you sometimes think you spend too much time on this mod and not enought time doing other stuff? You've been working and posting new content for this mod for months and I think you should take a break and enjoy life for a little while. This mod is amazing but I feel like you work WAY too hard on it without seeming to stop.
 
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That is a bit true Bagan I hope you regulate some free time for yourself (that doesn't involve you having to lose your Internet haha).
 

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That tail... You did good.
Thanks.
Several days ago, you mentioned that you weren't pleased with one of Ridley's victory animations (the one in which he breathes fire). In case you haven't thought of a replacement yet, what if you did something similar to Dedede's? He has one where a Waddle Dee is standing in front of him. Perhaps you could have Pirates reporting to Ridley?

The image you made in deviantart of Ridley standing behind his two Black Pirate guards could be a source of inspiration actually. Imagine the following:
At first, the 2 Pirates are in front of Ridley, with their backs turned towards the screen, looking at their leader (and he's looking down at them). Then, Ridley lifts his head slightly, to make eye contact with the screen. This causes the 2 Pirates to look over their shoulders towards the screen also. Suddenly, both guards do a quick 180 degree turn, with their claw guns open and pointed at the screen (or just doing a menacing stance). Throughout this entire animation, Ridley would be sitting in the pose you give him in your deviantart image (which reminds me of the way his Golden Statue was sitting in Super Metroid).
This sounds like a good idea. Just need to a-
File size limitations.
-F***. But im sure i can think of something that doesn't requires any extra props.
So I was looking at the default Baganley or whatever you call him and you said that it was based on his Super Metroid colors and I was think maybe you could make an alt that looks more like Super Metroid.

View attachment 62343
- The main thing is his color, he was a darker shade of purple is Super Metroid so use his Meta Ridley alt (not the real one you're working on right now) and make it more purple.

- His eye's were orange with no pupils so yeah ditch those.

-Color his wing spikes not counting the on two on top of them.

-Tail spike needs to be same color has his body.

-Remove his "sideburns" and the two small skin spikes on his wings.

-Wings need to be a little bit darker.

I don't know if you'll be able to do this right since you're working on the REAL Meta Ridley alt (which looks Badass BTW ) but if you can then I would really appreciate that since it looks like you won't be getting to Classic Ridley anytime soon.
I can do this. And he should be more (heavely desaturated) pink than purple if we are going by the sprite's colors.
Are the textures on the Ridley's lair stage supposed to look like this?

It's a perfect stage, the hazard version is my favourite. I still find it a bit awkward how that one Space Pirate just stands on the main platform jumping back-and-forth watching, but I can just easily delete it, haha.
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...no...This should not happen...at all...They should look a bit washed out or something, but not this. No such things were reported before.
Hey Bagan, do you sometimes think you spend too much time on this mod and not enought time doing other stuff? You've been working and posting new content for this mod for months and I think you should take a break and enjoy life for a little while. This mod is amazing but I feel like you waste too much of your time working on this without taking breaks.
Nah, i think its fine. I don't work on it 24/7 anyway (just randomly start doing stuff without any breaks and end it after a hour or two and then go watch something or play PM) and its fun. If it would be boring, i wouldn't have went past the beta.
That is a bit true Bagan I hope you regulate some free time for yourself (that doesn't involve you having to lose your Internet haha).
I do it well enough. PM Ridley isn't how i spend most of it. Just small part of it.

Thank you both for caring i guess.


And good news - Meta Ridley is lagless. He still lacks proper pelvis replacement since nothing i found looked right and i can't use Brawl Meta Ridley's since its also attached to many other things like tail, legs, arms, torso, etc. All icons are ready for him.

Also, Dark Samus is the winner of the poll...yeah...gotta get used to animating normal characters i guess...
 
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Maybe the replacement can have him laughing (obviously it'd still be roars, but it'd resemble a laugh in any case) for his victory? That'd be a good way to integrate his high intelligence in without altering the moveset.
 

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Question how do you add ridley's lair to pm and what stage do you have to replace?
 

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Maybe the replacement can have him laughing (obviously it'd still be roars, but it'd resemble a laugh in any case) for his victory? That'd be a good way to integrate his high intelligence in without altering the moveset.
He already shows it in Side Taunt, so, something else needs to be here.
Question how do you add ridley's lair to pm and what stage do you have to replace?
Insert STGPALUTENA.pac into projectm>pf>stage>melee.
Does the .rel I use matter? Instead of putting it over Skyworld I put it over Norfair.
I doubt it (didn't tested with Norfair, but i used Norfair as a base). And model's texture is messed up here, so, i doubt thats the reason.
 

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He already shows it in Side Taunt, so, something else needs to be here.

Insert STGPALUTENA.pac into projectm>pf>stage>melee.

I doubt it (didn't tested with Norfair, but i used Norfair as a base). And model's texture is messed up here, so, i doubt thats the reason.
So do I place STGPALUTENA.pac with the one I want use like the one with extra movement or do I just place the one I want into the folder?
 

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So do I place STGPALUTENA.pac with the one I want use like the one with extra movement or do I just place the one I want into the folder?
Place one you want into the folder, but rename it so its STGPALUTENA if its version with extra movement or falling platforms.


Now Meta Ridley's aerial Down B has his own GFX:

Before he lands, his feet are covered in fire and when he lands, they create 2 shockwaves. I know that there was only one, but it doesn't looks right because of GFX i used and just because it doesn't makes much sense. All hitboxes deal fire damage, but everything else is same. Other changes exclusive to Meta Ridley i want to do is electric hitboxes for Up Smash, electricity GFX on his chest for stunned state and when launched (in MP, when you hit his weak point, same thing happens as far as i know, so...) and...what else to do? I can't turn his fireballs into short burts of plasma beam as i wanted, so, there is not much i can think of.
 

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Flaming feet is pretty damn accurate on certain versions of MP. Maybe you could add the small screech for the ram, you know right before he moves forward. Haha
 

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Place one you want into the folder, but rename it so its STGPALUTENA if its version with extra movement or falling platforms.
So I have to delete the other STGPALUTENA that was already in the folder?

Also how do you add the songs, do I have to rename them too?
 

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So I have to delete the other STGPALUTENA that was already in the folder?

Also how do you add the songs, do I have to rename them too?
Yes.

Yes. Rename them like this:
P01 - X song
P03 - Y song
P02 - Z song
P04 - Ω song
They will still be called things like "Underworld", "Skyworld", etc. But this can be fixed too. It takes more time to do though.
 
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