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— 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 (@C9Mang0) February 18, 2019

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[staindgrey]

For what it’s worth, Earthbound is the second best selling Wii U virtual console game.

Source on this? I didn't know that.

 

[Just a penguin]

I’m unprankable.

We've gotten to the point where being pranked is an asset that people want to have, and need to ask for it in a non-obvious way, and I'm just here getting pranked without asking and challenging the person who pranked me to a rap battle.

 

[ClaTheBae]

For what it’s worth, Earthbound is the second best selling Wii U virtual console game. I’m sure Mother 3 would sell decently too if only because of the entire history behind it, but it still likely wouldn’t be worth the translations effort.

Oh yeah, people want it, but earthbound was already translated and I'm sure the effort to port it was extremely low. I don't get why so many people want an official US version. Just play the free one

 

[Deleted member]

Nintendo will not pay an entire localization team to translate a game that only a small subset of people will care about.

"Only a small subset of people will care about"

You could easily say this for people who want another Star Fox or F-Zero game, too. I have yet to see anyone provide numbers as to how Mother 3 is "only for a small subset of people".

 

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Ultimate is just Melee 2

 

[KMDP]

"Only a small subset of people will care about"

You could easily say this for people who want another Star Fox or F-Zero game, too. I have yet to see anyone provide numbers as to how Mother 3 is "only for a small subset of people".

RPGs aren't exactly a popular genre of video game outside of Japan.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It reminds me of you in a prom.

Yoo if I had that dress to wear, I so 100% would of went to prom

 

[Deleted member]

RPGs aren't exactly a popular genre of video game outside of Japan.

If that's the case, I'm surprised Etika managed over 15,000 unique people live for his Xenoblade 2 finale, and Vinny Vinesauce with 10,000 for the Mother 3 finale. Not to mention Final Fantasy IX being the top of the charts on the eShop.

 

[Deleted member]

Source on this? I didn't know that.

As of March 2017 at least, it’s shown here about 4:50 in

I also saw a bunch of articles about Eartybound Beginnings selling well.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh yeah, people want it, but earthbound was already translated and I'm sure the effort to port it was extremely low. I don't get why so many people want an official US version. Just play the free one

I actually would like to play Mother 3 in the new Link's Awakening form.

 

[ClaTheBae]

"Only a small subset of people will care about"

You could easily say this for people who want another Star Fox or F-Zero game, too. I have yet to see anyone provide numbers as to how Mother 3 is "only for a small subset of people".

The mother series is pretty niche, and Earthbound didn't initially sell well in NA on release. This has changed, of course, but Star Fox 64 has sold over 4 million units, more than the entire mother series combined. And I'm sure a new mother game would do well, but would a 14 year old GBA game really be worth their time to translate and potentially even censor?

 

[staindgrey]

RPGs aren't exactly a popular genre of video game outside of Japan.

Uh. What?

 

[KMDP]

If that's the case, I'm surprised Etika managed over 15,000 unique people live for his Xenoblade 2 finale, and Vinny Vinesauce with 10,000 for the Mother 3 finale. Not to mention Final Fantasy IX being the top of the charts on the eShop.

10-15000 is barely anybody in the grand scheme of things.

Uh. What?

Historically, JRPGs have been a very niche genre outside of Japan, with only a handful of JRPGs series becoming noteworthy (i.e. Final Fantasy and Pokémon).

Persona 5 was the first Shin Megami Tensei game to become even remotely mainstream, and it's like the 20th game in the greater franchise or something (I'm not going to look into the specific number of SMT/Persona games).

 

[Deleted member]

RPGs aren't exactly a popular genre of video game outside of Japan.

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[staindgrey]

Historically, JRPGs have been a niche genre outside of Japan, with only a handful of JRPGs series becoming noteworthy (i.e. Final Fantasy and Pokémon).

Persona 5 was the first Shin Megami Tensei game to become even remotely mainstream, and it's like the 20th game in the franchise or something (I'm not going to look into the specific number of SMT/Persona games).

You said RPGs, not JRPGs. And you left out the word "historically", because western reception to JRPGs in 2019 is totally different than in 2009 or 1999. Those are totally different statements.

 

[Teeb147]

RPGs aren't exactly a popular genre of video game outside of Japan.

10-15000 is barely anybody in the grand scheme of things.

Historically, JRPGs have been a very niche genre outside of Japan, with only a handful of JRPGs series becoming noteworthy (i.e. Final Fantasy and Pokémon).

Persona 5 was the first Shin Megami Tensei game to become even remotely mainstream, and it's like the 20th game in the greater franchise or something (I'm not going to look into the specific number of SMT/Persona games).

rpgs are really popular, even jrpgs.
You do realize that rpgs are all over right? Even the more popular like Skyrim are rpgs.
But even then, look at games that are like final fantasy, and lots more.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I mean if anything I headcanon the Magypsies as non-binary, so if they were to localize Mother 3, the Magypsies could just use they/them pronouns

they do it with characters of ambiguous gender like with Undertale and Deltarune. ffs, Steven Universe is a thing too, so

 

[Deleted member]

I mean if anything I headcanon the Magypsies as non-binary, so if they were to localize Mother 3, the Magypsies could just use they/them pronouns

they do it with characters of ambiguous gender like with Undertale and Deltarune. ffs, Steven Universe is a thing too, so

bold of you to assume nintendo can handle open lgbt representation with grace

 

[Deleted member]

The mother series is pretty niche, and Earthbound didn't initially sell well in NA on release. This has changed, of course, but Star Fox 64 has sold over 4 million units, more than the entire mother series combined. And I'm sure a new mother game would do well, but would a 14 year old GBA game really be worth their time to translate and potentially even censor?

But look at right now. If we're talking about Star Fox, it's practically been relegated to a series Nintendo has passive interest on. I think what you're forgetting is that we're in a day and age where oddly enough, with all the memes surrounding Mother 3 and it's localization, that's what makes it such a large demand. Meme culture is pretty damn powerful, and honestly, wouldn't be surprised if that is the driving force.

Besides, it's already been confirmed that there will never be another Mother / EarthBound game a long time ago, so the next thing would have to be Mother 3 in the West.

10-15000 is barely anybody in the grand scheme of things.

Over ten thousand people for one person?

I mean ****, I guess the reason Mother 3 got an insane surplus of fan art wasn't because of Vinny Vinesauce after all, then.

 

[Deleted member]

Has anyone ever tried SmashBoards like this?

Spoiler: Long

 

[Deleted member]

I'm 100% sure Earthbound Beginnings was a way to test the waters to see if a Mother 3 localization was even worth it.
And considering the current situation, I'd say Nintendo thinks it isn't.

If that's the case, I'm surprised Etika managed over 15,000 unique people live for his Xenoblade 2 finale, and Vinny Vinesauce with 10,000 for the Mother 3 finale. Not to mention Final Fantasy IX being the top of the charts on the eShop.

You really think 15k is a big number for a free stream?

 

[staindgrey]

bold of you to assume nintendo can handle open lgbt representation with grace

They've got this.

 

[Deleted member]

way to test the waters

I drowned and then I respawned in a pool area.

 

[KMDP]

Over ten thousand people for one person?

I mean ****, I guess the reason Mother 3 got an insane surplus of fan art wasn't because of Vinny Vinesauce after all, then.

Were those people coming for Mother 3, or Etika/Vinny?

You said RPGs, not JRPGs. And you left out the word "historically", because western reception to JRPGs in 2019 is totally different than in 2009 or 1999. Those are totally different statements.

I misspoke, but my point still stands.

There have been big JRPGs in the past that have done little to nothing for the popularity of the genre (Pokémon, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy X to name a few), Persona 5 and Dragon Quest XI were big popular releases last year, but it remains to be seen if this will have an effect on the genre as a whole.

 

[Deleted member]

They've got this.

furries don't count they already got that demographic looooong ago

 

[amazonevan19]

Most Nintendo and indie games are literally made to appeal to certain subsections of the market. The ones that aren't are things like Fortnite, CoD, FIFA, etc. Different games, different marketing strategies. Using "but muh niche" as an argument against Mother 3 is super silly. Nintendo might have waited until now to release it as an Earthbound collection or are just going to ignore it because they think it's not worth localizing for whatever business reason.

 

[Deleted member]

You really think 15k is a big number for a free stream?

You seem to forget what examples of streamers I provided.

Again, I'll be so shocked if the huge surplus of Mother 3 fan art wasn't because of Vinny.

 

[Deleted member]

You seem to forget what examples of streamers I provided.

Again, I'll be so shocked if the huge surplus of Mother 3 fan art wasn't because of Vinny.

You seem to constantly overstate the importance of streamers that a) don't matter and b) still don't have the numbers.
Out of the 15k that watched said stream, only half would, at most, buy the game because the stream wasn't paid and most were interested in the streamer itself and not the game.
Even if all of those viewers bought the game, 15k is nowhere near a good sales number.

And like, I don't get what's your point with fanart. I haven't seen any huge boost in Mother fanart that isn't related to Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

Contreras... We are doing it wrong with Mother 3...
We don’t have to ask Reggie... But we must ask Nintendo Of Europe.

 

[Deleted member]

Were those people coming for Mother 3, or Etika/Vinny?

One of the biggest memes in his community before he streamed Mother 3 was for a good two years was "VINNY WILL NEVER STREAM MOTHER 3". When he started doing it, much like every other game -- be it Marble it Up!, the Trash games -- Vinny does it for experience. He never played it before, much as probably a great amount who haven't either, due to no official translation.

So while those people meme'd up Vinny never playing Mother 3, those people definitely did it to not only see Vinny's reactions, but experience the game as a whole.

 

[KMDP]

You seem to forget what examples of streamers I provided.

Again, I'll be so shocked if the huge surplus of Mother 3 fan art wasn't because of Vinny.

Episodes of Chugaaconroy's Mother 3 Let's Play have 300'000+ views (with the first having 506k), and this didn't get Mother 3 released.

10-15k is nothing.

Because NicoB regularly got 30-70k views for his recent Mother 3 Let's Play, more than double Vinny's numbers.

 

[Schnee117]

Mother 3 won't get localised because that'd go against it's anti-capitalist message.

 

[Deleted member]

We need to stop asking Reggie and start asking Stéphan Bole (President of Nintendo Europe) about Mother 3.

 

[Deleted member]

Tbh I have no interest in actually ever playing Mother 3, but with all of it's acclaim and from what I've seen of it, it goshdarn deserves to be played legitimately by more people.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

They've got this.

The women in th top middle tho.

 

[Deleted member]

Mother 3 won't get localised because that'd go against it's anti-capitalist message.

What do you mean? Mother is completely free of political statements!

 

[Schnee117]

What do you mean? Mother is completely free of political statements!

Oh yeah, just like every form of entertainment.
How silly of me.

 

[Deleted member]

You seem to constantly overstate the importance of streamers that a) don't matter and b) still don't have the numbers.
Out of the 15k that watched said stream, only half would, at most, buy the game because the stream wasn't paid and most were interested in the streamer itself and not the game.
Even if all of those viewers bought the game, 15k is nowhere near a good sales number.

And like, I don't get what's your point with fanart. I haven't seen any huge boost in Mother fanart that isn't related to Smash.

I don't think I am, considering how much of a reach Vinesauce as a whole have had on the internet. If I am, then I guess things like 7 Grand Dad and corruptions aren't popular, then.

You've been completely missing the point of how the combination of both a pretty big name around the content creating game, their community and all the other variables with Mother 3 sent the message out more. And to prove my point further...

Episodes of Chugaaconroy's Mother 3 Let's Play have 300'000+ views (with the first having 506k), and this didn't get Mother 3 released.

10-15k is nothing.

Because NicoB regularly got 30-70k views for his recent Mother 3 Let's Play, more than double Vinny's numbers.

Care to check that again? Seems as if Vinny got more numbers when they got archived on the Full Sauce channel.

Part 1: 180K
Part 2: 114K
Part 3: 95K
Part 4: 89K
Part 5: 76K
Part 6: 77K
Part 7: 54K
Part 8: 51K
Part 9: 41K
Part 10: 48K
Part 11: 70K

 

[Roberk]

I don’t get why people are so desperate for a Mother 3 localization. Isn’t the fan translation near perfect and “professional”? Like, emulation isn’t all that legal but it’s not like you’ll ever be caught/punished. Plus, I don’t feel any moral ramifications for emulating a GBA game that doesn’t have any official way to be purchased so that the developers can be compensated. If the game ever does get re-released, just buy it then and it’s a win for everybody.