Roxas215
Smash Lord
Yea i know aaron.
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- U.F.B. Crew Thread - IT'S ALIVE IT'S ALIVE!!!!! "ROLL 'EM UP" DEC. 21
- Thread starter Roxas215
- Start date
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
u live in cinnaminson now? ur even closer to philly now right? good stuff
Hitman JT
The Infinite One
If by philly u mean center city then yea. I'm right across the tacony palmyra bridge
Roxas215
Smash Lord
Truth when i have my smashfest u better come! I need all the brawl+ players lol
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
i need to play some + irl, the only plus iv done recently is online. my fox is getting pretty nifty
blakinola
Constantly Delicious
chibo you had some wack version of brawl we were playing yesterday, it took 2 hrs till TUSM and Kendall figured it out
do not want
do not want
Xzax Kasrani
Smash Master
Alright after me telling Chibo about our games and the MM he said he didn't know what was changed. Then I said me and AK agreed it was legit and our characters weren't changed and we could tell this. He then said well I think you played a buff wolf vs his normal DK, after the fact he said he wasn't sure. Lol good job chibo, and AK we will deff. mm again tho.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
What happened was:
The codes I loaded had the SD loader code, for textures and stuff which were on my SD Card. There was nothing else.
Then later you had taken out my SD Card and put yours in to save replays. However, when Ak put his card in, the game then read files from that card which must have had Brawl+ PAC files since Vex said Gdorf's bair had lightning element. So there were no codes for things like hitstun, frame speed mods, momentum, etc. However, there were all character hitbox and property changes from the PAC files. The reason there was no change when me and Ak played is because when we had selected ROB and DK, his SD card wasn't in the system. The system won't load file character files until you select a character. Next time someone had switched a character, or if Ak didn't play a round, then he wouldn't have had any changes.
You can see the changes on the B+ site. If Ak had not turned off his player before the MM since I left, then he had 0 changes. Xzax had changes regardless. However, even if Ak got changes, the changes to DK are very minimal, and likely hard to notice. No power of his moves were even changed.
DK Changes:
Move Adjustments (BKB=Base Knockback, KBG=Knockback Growth):
-Punch does not put you into special fall
Physics Adjustments:
Short Hop 0.850
Full Hop and Double Jump 1.000
Fast Fall 1.400
Downwards Gravity 1.000
Full Gravity 1.000
Wolf Changes
Move Adjustments (BKB=Base Knockback, KBG=Knockback Growth):
-Dair Frame 20 140% faster winddown; BKB to 32 from 6
-Fair KBG 110 from 95, Launch angle 105 from 75
-Nair
-hb2 BKB to 40 from 10, 4 damage from 3 damage
-hb3 BKB to 40 from 0, 2 damage from 1 damage
-hb4 BKB to 40 from 10, KBG to 100 from 0
-SideB All electric hitboxes now behave like falcons knee at 77.85% power and 15 damage
-Up+B launch angles are all 90, BKB set to 80 from 80, 50, and 60
Physics Adjustments:
Short Hop 1.025
Full Hop and Double Jump 1.025
Fast Fall 1.200
Downwards Gravity 0.850
Full Gravity 1.100
I had said I thought you played a buffed wolf v normal DK after I realized what had happened (which I'm sure of now) and DK has no move buffs at all in Brawl+. There might have also been small things universal to all characters like tweaks to air dodges or something.
The codes I loaded had the SD loader code, for textures and stuff which were on my SD Card. There was nothing else.
Then later you had taken out my SD Card and put yours in to save replays. However, when Ak put his card in, the game then read files from that card which must have had Brawl+ PAC files since Vex said Gdorf's bair had lightning element. So there were no codes for things like hitstun, frame speed mods, momentum, etc. However, there were all character hitbox and property changes from the PAC files. The reason there was no change when me and Ak played is because when we had selected ROB and DK, his SD card wasn't in the system. The system won't load file character files until you select a character. Next time someone had switched a character, or if Ak didn't play a round, then he wouldn't have had any changes.
You can see the changes on the B+ site. If Ak had not turned off his player before the MM since I left, then he had 0 changes. Xzax had changes regardless. However, even if Ak got changes, the changes to DK are very minimal, and likely hard to notice. No power of his moves were even changed.
DK Changes:
Move Adjustments (BKB=Base Knockback, KBG=Knockback Growth):
-Punch does not put you into special fall
Physics Adjustments:
Short Hop 0.850
Full Hop and Double Jump 1.000
Fast Fall 1.400
Downwards Gravity 1.000
Full Gravity 1.000
Wolf Changes
Move Adjustments (BKB=Base Knockback, KBG=Knockback Growth):
-Dair Frame 20 140% faster winddown; BKB to 32 from 6
-Fair KBG 110 from 95, Launch angle 105 from 75
-Nair
-hb2 BKB to 40 from 10, 4 damage from 3 damage
-hb3 BKB to 40 from 0, 2 damage from 1 damage
-hb4 BKB to 40 from 10, KBG to 100 from 0
-SideB All electric hitboxes now behave like falcons knee at 77.85% power and 15 damage
-Up+B launch angles are all 90, BKB set to 80 from 80, 50, and 60
Physics Adjustments:
Short Hop 1.025
Full Hop and Double Jump 1.025
Fast Fall 1.200
Downwards Gravity 0.850
Full Gravity 1.100
I had said I thought you played a buffed wolf v normal DK after I realized what had happened (which I'm sure of now) and DK has no move buffs at all in Brawl+. There might have also been small things universal to all characters like tweaks to air dodges or something.
Xzax Kasrani
Smash Master
How are so sure those were the changes? Me, Vex, nor AK could not tell changes, but when there were some we could tell what was different like MK, CGs, Ganon Bair, ect.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
I explained it, since you found electric on gdorfs bair, then that means it was brawl+ pacs. brawl+ is the only modified codeset out there to use electric on that move
Roxas215
Smash Lord
If you could notice changes on one char then all the chars had change dno matter how minmial they were since he had to of loaded the brawl+ pacs.
I should of been there. MM'S aren't epic unless u got some paramore in the background. T-RUE
I should of been there. MM'S aren't epic unless u got some paramore in the background. T-RUE
KayLo!
Smarter than your average wabbit.
All I know is..... Vex and I couldn't get our double Pikachu CG on, and I was very upset. 
CHIBO!!!!!!
CHIBO!!!!!!
blakinola
Constantly Delicious
Wierd...it had the physics and playstyle of VBrawl..there was nothing gamebreaking
but xzax we're mming again. It's 50-50 matchup anyways.
Africa Edit: Evan, you're one of the blackest people I know to like Paramore.
but xzax we're mming again. It's 50-50 matchup anyways.
Africa Edit: Evan, you're one of the blackest people I know to like Paramore.
Roxas215
Smash Lord
Of course it had the playstyle of vbrawl because the actual codes for the gravity and hitstun changes were not loaded. However the chars still had the changes done to their actual moves. Thats why u saw the lighting effect. Basically the frame data from brawl+ was loaded but not the engine.
And lol yea paramore is the ****. Do u know what i would do to haley williams? I think it's the hair!! Ill be at the concert on oct 17th trying to feel her left tit! o yea!
Everyone do yourself a favor and make this your fav song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLvcE2vFrl8
Xzax Kasrani
Smash Master
Alright, this time it will be 2-0!
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
im glad evan understands this lol, i was gettin so many ?'s from everyone else. though the frame data wasnt loaded for b+, you typo'd that in the last post lol. the jumping heights and speeds should have been differ, but unliekly very unnoticeable without all the other b+ universal codes. also, there was a chance DK wasnt changed as long as he didnt switch his character or someone play a match without ak since i left because when we were playing it was full vBrawl since we loaded the characters when his sd card wasnt in yet
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
wtf is wit all this bbrawl, vbrawl, brawl+, code swapping, and frame data **** all about. if u didnt play an *** game like brawl+ u wouldnt even have 2 worry boutt all of that.
KayLo!
Smarter than your average wabbit.
Lol. Kenny speaks the truth.
Roxas215
Smash Lord
say that to all the pros who admitted they have alot more fun with brawl+ then normal brawl.
Xzax Kasrani
Smash Master
Brawl+ is *******. And I am consider a pro/semi-pro. Get *****.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
we're sorry your technically illiterate
KayLo!
Smarter than your average wabbit.
Ask the pros which one makes them more money...... x.o
Xzax Kasrani
Smash Master
Chibo, were you talking to me?
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
mexi gurukid and yes would say brawl+ lol
edit: xzax, no kingtoon
edit: xzax, no kingtoon
Xzax Kasrani
Smash Master
Brawl+ is too easy. And btw in all seriousness I used to love the game until it got mad dumb.
Roxas215
Smash Lord
Where does money come into factor wether or not the game is good? No one is saying it's going to replace normal brawl. Anyone that thinks that is stupid.
And the game did get easy in the last couple of builds. Everyone agreed to that. This new set however is great. Even inui likes it now and he was like the biggest hater.
KayLo!
Smarter than your average wabbit.
You're taking my comment waaaaaaaay more seriously than I meant it to be, lol. I couldn't care less about B+ vs. Brawl, although I do think B+ is fun but not a "good" game.
I was just responding to the fact that you commented on pros thinking it's fun like that's the ultimate justification for the game. If it came down to it, pros would likely choose Brawl because it makes them more money, no matter how fun B+ is.
I was just responding to the fact that you commented on pros thinking it's fun like that's the ultimate justification for the game. If it came down to it, pros would likely choose Brawl because it makes them more money, no matter how fun B+ is.
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
who cares wat inui likes. im not waitin 4 his approval. the game is jus trash. the 1st time i played it evan i almost 3 stocked u. its gay jus because some of yall wanna whine about how u miss melee. how bout jus grow a pair and suck it up.
lol why am i jus rambling
and give me ur wii code ev. i want those replays
lol why am i jus rambling
and give me ur wii code ev. i want those replays
Xzax Kasrani
Smash Master
Kenny, stop typing like MIB....just don't please. If you want people to read what to type and not just go...wait, is that English?
KayLo!
Smarter than your average wabbit.
If y'all can't understand what either of them are saying, I dunno what to tell you. It's not proper english, but it's not like they're typing in gibberish.
Roxas215
Smash Lord
You 3 stocked me when i was mario and i kept trying to spike. And this has nothing do with inui or his approval. That post wasn't even directed to you. Now your just lashing out at him for no reason.
And it's also not about missing melee at all. So i guess people who play balanced brawl also miss melee? No they play it because of all the gay **** that's in brawl.
edit. lol at xzax. Yea mib's post be funny but it's not like u can't understand why he saying like kendall said.
And it's also not about missing melee at all. So i guess people who play balanced brawl also miss melee? No they play it because of all the gay **** that's in brawl.
edit. lol at xzax. Yea mib's post be funny but it's not like u can't understand why he saying like kendall said.
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
i type lik that because its the internet. im not in english 101 so i dont gotta type like a scholar. dam.
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
lol dont give me that ev u had ivy and even tusm was there i dont even think u ever picked mario b4 lol. and yes they miss melee. i find nothing gay in brawl. its a ****in game. ur not going to find perfection.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
mib's posts arent even comparable to toons, toons are legible. mib's posts are a completely different language made up of .....'s and no vowels.
'toon couldnt be more wrong though. its quite annoying when ppl try to play the whole just play melee card to the brawl+ ppl. i play melee, brawl, and brawl+. each game is different and awesome in its own way. if u dont like it, shutup, no one cares that you dont care for it, so keep your opinion to yourself. brawl+ players dont shove it down the throats of vB players (and if they do, then they suck)
'toon couldnt be more wrong though. its quite annoying when ppl try to play the whole just play melee card to the brawl+ ppl. i play melee, brawl, and brawl+. each game is different and awesome in its own way. if u dont like it, shutup, no one cares that you dont care for it, so keep your opinion to yourself. brawl+ players dont shove it down the throats of vB players (and if they do, then they suck)
Roxas215
Smash Lord
o yea i was ivy. yea i picked mario against tusm samus.
Still what does that have anything to do with your blatant bashing when u played it for maybe 20 mins at max?
And if you don't find anything gay in brawl then there is something wrong. Even the diehard defenders won't lie and say there aren't flaws in the game.
And this is different from any other game with dlc how?
Also the fact that this new set is going to sit for months to develop a metagame proves how little u know.
You act like people who play brawl+ are dropping brawl. Thats far from the truth. I actually stopped playing brawl+ for over a month just to practice for the dso tournaments. Thats obvious seeing how much better i have gotten lately.
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
exactly ev 20 min. it took me 20 min 2 beat a guy who played that game for way more than me. not even 20 min. lol 1 match. i even beat tusm's kirby wit sonic. stop wasting internet wit brawl+ talk
lol im not tellin u 2 play melee u got me all wrong. im tellin u stick to brawl and leave the hacked versions alone ur not gonna get anywhere wit it. every once in awhile theres gonna be a new code and things are going to change.
lol im not tellin u 2 play melee u got me all wrong. im tellin u stick to brawl and leave the hacked versions alone ur not gonna get anywhere wit it. every once in awhile theres gonna be a new code and things are going to change.
KayLo!
Smarter than your average wabbit.
That's my one big issue with B+..... you get used to the game, then it changes. -_- It's pretty annoying, imo. But whatevs. *****ing about either one isn't gonna change anything.
Hitman JT
The Infinite One
Man everytime B+ is brought up in a topic theres ALWAYS a big a$$ dispute that follows...it's a free country nugguhs. Stop being communists and play what u want :x
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
no this is a dictatorship and i ban brawl+ its a boring. its an excuse for y ur not good at brawl so u put in brawl+ and jus combo people 2 death when they cant even momentum cancel lol. and u think ur good because u can attack out of lucarios up b lmao.