If it is any kind of shinning light, the entire ZSS board plays other fighting games. We all play some kind of other fighter outside of Smash and actively work to improve at it, some enter tournaments. In fact, if you've ever been over to the ZSS boards, and you see some of the discussion being done their as opposed to other places on Smashboards, it becomes very obvious that the place just reaks of SRK.
Also, were you picking the average player, or the most common extreme personality type when talking about the communities?
i don't keep up with Brawl very much, so i don't go to the ZSS boards very much. it's cool that you guys discuss that stuff, though. and, it's cool you guys are trying to improve in other stuff along with Smash. as for my examples of personality types, it wasn't specific. it was collected from going to large Smash tournaments and large tournaments for other fighters, but you can particularly look at the higher echelon of players for those same examples. i find it rather interesting myself, if you compare.
Ok:
First, your fifth paragraph is so much stupid dribble. What does FR have to do with me knowing about SRK and having an account since 2007? None of that has anything to do with anything, but if it makes you feel all that better...... Top eight from FR XI had a kid named Jeff Boone in it, he lost to alex garvin vids up on preppy site just gotta search Jeff Boone for them. Jeff is my hommie and got me into srk in early 06. I train in GG,MvC2,VS,and some random fighters with him for about 2 years then I found out the same thing you have stated, SRK is a bunch of *****es/bullies!!!!! Smash kid are way cooler in the fact that they are "usually" in college and will make something of them selves. Outside of SoCal I really do not see that in the srk crowd. It is a assumption but it is what I have seen.
This is why I am doing what I am doing. I still wanna go to tourneys with my brother but he will not go to srk tourney because of their attitude. So we play smash semi-competitively. I still take some fighters seriously so I have to say on SRK and Dustloop and Neo. My account for those site are older than this but that does not matter.
Second:
Your 4th paragraph is a stupid contradiction, you tell me that your view of "success" would be doing exactly what I did. I got a whole crew (tally) to like a non smash fighter and try to hold a tourney for it. So I showed up and yes it did not happen, but I did spark the interest of a handful (five people right? well count up the tally crew and you will have five people there) of people. The fact that they even tried to run the tourney tells me that you gave up to early. The fact that they did not hold the tourney is somehow a reason why I failed to achieve your level of "success?" some things fall through. You are weak and that shows it. Face facts kid, you are negative and act like a cancer to those who try to be positive. You will not consume me, sorry!!
Very likely outcome? I already told you that I had great success with it. How is that being real at all? Again it seems like you are trying to be negative because you are weak and soft and could not make a scene where people are interested. Just how it looks kid!!!
Smash kids have all the drive in the world. THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SOMEONE EVEN IF THEY NEVER WIN AT SMASH MOST OF THEM WILL WIN AT LIFE!!!! That is drive man. I know it I have it. SRK'ers have nothing but games most of the time. They have a different kind of drive, they have the drive that this game will make me someone. That kind of "blind optimism is dangerous and mildly ignorant." To quote you.
Telling me **** like you do is only the driving force for me to continue. For every Ga Peach there will be 11 smash kids I get to "try" a new game. Of those 11 if 1 stays around then he will be able to drive me to find more Ga Peaches, and shove their face in the sweet smell of success. Keep being soft and keep telling people that there is an outcome that they can not avoid and I will keep telling you that you are negative. But stay around because I do not want to hunt you down to tell you "WHAT NOW GET ME *****"
BTW: Where is Evo being held this year? What are the games being played? What are they trying to do new there? TvC sub fourm oh you going to see my posts there. USA on par with japan? Posts in any of these threads so I know I am wasting my time on you ok. I will wait to see you there. I really want you to post in the Usa on par with Japan thread. Please do that!!!! Let me know when ok. I will look for you there.
now, as for you. you have completely missed the point of any of the conversation we have had in this thread, and have lowered yourself to insults due to not being able to articulate yourself well/lack of knowledge. for the sake of conversation, and hopefully to get everyone else's input, i will attempt one more time to make you understand some things...in another long post...i wish people's ignorance and stupidity didn't bother me so much. i could just ignore this guy, if that were the case...
first point - the reason I brought up FR is because you made a point earlier saying SRK and SWF never crossed paths. you said this in your OP, and that is incorrect. GA alone has had MANY tournaments to include both Smash and SRK tournaments, with FR being nationally known as one of the largest tournaments every year. so, putting two and two together, you made that statement about the two communities never crossing paths when they do at one of the largest tournaments in the nation. obviously, that makes me question if you know what you are talking about. also, i NEVER said that SRK people were a bunch of "bullies/*****es" as you have put. do NOT put YOUR ignorant words into MY mouth. i'm not insulting any party in the points i am making, unlike you. all i said was that they can act kind of ghetto and stuff can get extremely hype/loud. also, your post about only Smash kids making something of themselves is ridiculously insulting and, once again, ignorant. in GA ALONE, not to mention other states, a large part of the community has either finished college, like myself, or is currently in college. Or, they are holding down a good job and making their own life. also, how long you have had your account anywhere doesn't mean anything. you could have your account on SRK or SWF since the forum opened and still be the most ignorant person about subjects regarding the matters at hand. people prove that kind of thing every day.
second point - if you would actually read and
understand what i posted before, you would not have even posted this paragraph. i said i think it is successful if you got a handful of people PASSIONATE about the game, not just interested to run a tournament one day. i don't know them personally, but if they still play and try to perfect themselves in TvC the way that they play or played Smash, then you succeeded in my eyes. if not, you have more work to do. simple as that. you need to understand that there is a very distinct difference between being
interested in something and being
passionate about something. there are many things i am interested in, but will probably never persue. for example, forensics. i love watching shows about forensic studies and whatnot, but will i ever participate in forensics? no, because i am not passionate about it, thus i will never study this in school and become a forensics officer. instead, i am going to write and work for a networking company, because those are things that i AM passionate about. there's nothing wrong with this mentality. it's actually quite natural. after all, people can't do everything at once. me pointing to the fact that the tournament fell through does not even point to the possibility that i am weak. way to fail on insulting me there, buddy. also, i am not being negative towards you. i even WISHED you success, but was letting you know about a very real possibility that could occur. also, you are wrong AGAIN about me not being able to start a scene in a place where people were interested. i SPECIFICALLY stated that my problem was actually getting them into something that wasn't Smash in my area. and, again, it comes down to what is considered "success", which i don't consider that a great success. maybe you do. we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. plus, you added a completely off-subject insult. way to be bad at debating a point, dood. and, i am not a kid. i am a 25 year old college grad who is suffering from the economy/bad job market. so, i am going back to school for something else. AND, i am part of the SRK community. imagine that...
third point - this is just ridiculous at best. i never said Smash players didn't have the drive to do ANYTHING AT ALL. get your head out of your ***, dood. the context was OBVIOUSLY that they did not have the drive to get better and compete
IN THE GAME THAT I PRESENTED TO THEM. and, once again, you come with this ridiculously ignorant generalization that all Smash players are gonna automatically succeed in life, and that anyone from SRK is going to fail in life. as stated before, MANY people from BOTH communities are very successful people, just as many from both need to get their lives together. again, get your head OUT of your ***, man. seriously. ignorance like this is akin to social elitism. also, to inform you, it isn't exactly quoting someone correctly when you take the original quote and use it in a way that is completely out of its original context, thus making it not even applicable to the situation. congrats, you have achieved this feat. blind optimism in anything is dangerous and mildly ignorant. it is important to always know the pros and cons as much as you can in life's situations, no matter what you do. that is commonly referred to as "wisdom". which leads nicely into the next part of this point. what "crap" am i telling you? i have said MULTIPLE times that i HOPE you succeed in getting a scene going and i HOPE you get out of it what you want. again, i was just WARNING you of what very well COULD happen. i was just giving you a heads-up, as i had prior experience in trying to start a mass scene and sharing with you my perspective. of course, just like everything else i have said, you misinterpreted that. i never said that you couldn't AVOID the situation, i just warned you of its possibility. also, using me as an example, as you did above, makes no sense. i CAME from 2d/3d, as i stated before, and i now play Smash and 2d/3d. so, what you are saying is that for every one person you meet that plays 2d/3d and Smash, which is what you want, you will meet 11 kids that will try to play 2d/3d. see how that doesn't make sense? i said that i WANT you to succeed in your venture, so trying to shove my face in your success may not work out the way you want it to. just throwing that out there.
and, i already knew that Evo was being held at Caesar's Palace, and that they changed the weekend so that it is earlier in the month of July, which is unfortunate for me, as i might not be back from Japan yet, so i might not get to go. one guy was even talking about how he is a promoter for Star Trak Entertainment, and was talking to N.E.R.D. about performing at the tournament, which they replied as it being a "cool idea" he said. i also think it would be cool to have some celebs in the building. i know it may shock you, as according to you, SRK guys can not be successful, but he seems to have a decent career. as for the lineup, as far as i know, it is not finalized. but, bringing up Evo is another half-point against you, as they tried to cross paths with the Smash community, but did not want to use rules they were used to, so it's not a full point, only half. i will give you the benefit of the point doubt for that one. also, you probably won't see me post in the TvC threads at all, as i only played that game lightly when the Japanese release came out. i also don't know how the US players stack up against the Japanese players, as I never followed that game specifically. again, you're trying too hard to reflect my points back at me. i don't know much about TvC, so unlike some, i'm not gonna try to post about things i don't know about.
cool, finished the post.
