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Tuesday's Guide to Controllers

Grim Tuesday

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NOTE: This is a part of Infinite Dreams's "Smash Bros. Community Agenda" idea. Here is a link for people who think they can help out the community in their own special way:http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243847

Hey guys, I’ve seen alot of people who are sick of playing SSB64 on their Keyboard, don’t know how to use a Game Pad, or have bought faulty controllers in the past, so I have decided to make a guide on the ins-and-outs of playing Smash 64 on your computer, with a joypad.
(Use Ctrl+F to find a section easily).

Contents
1. Which controller should I buy? *COMPLETE*
2. How to setup your Controller.
3. Useful Controller Configurations.
4. Useful Programs.
5. F.A.Q.

1. Which controller should I buy?
Before you can start playing with a controller, you need to own a controller (If you already have a working controller, skip this step).
But as you reach your local IT store, you might be a bit confused, which is the best brand? Which controllers are the most sensitive? Etc...
All those questions will be answered right here.


Firstly, a N64 Controller has 10 Buttons (Not including the control stick), so you probably want a controller with atleast that many (Although, L and Start aren’t very useful, so 8 would probably suffice).
This includes 7 buttons on the front of the controller, 2 shoulder buttons, and 1 for your index finger underneath. If the controller doesn’t have numbers or letters to label the buttons, you might have a hard time working out what to assign them to, so make sure to get one with labels! You’ll want to make sure you do your research first, some brands of controllers have buttons that stick, or control sticks that are really loose. REMEMBER! Google is your friend.

Although a Directional Pad works, a Control Stick will allow alot more accuracy than the former option. some controllers come with added features like vibrating, hand grip and other quirks, but when it boils down to it, is it really worth paying extra money and possibly losing quality in the more important features of the controller just for a few extra useless options? Try to stick with the bare essentials and you’ll probably get better value. You can buy a decent controller for roughly $15-$20, If you see something over that mark, it is probably a rip off.


So now that you know what to look out for, what brands suit your needs? Well, there are a few that I have tried and tested and I know that work, but once again, Google is your friend!
If you are looking for a specific button layout SideWinder have alot of variations and are of good quality, unfortunately, this means that you might have a hard time if it is your first controller and you suddenly find out the layout isn’t as good as it looked. Try and stick with button placement similar to the N64 Controller, but if you know what you are looking for, SideWinder is the way to go.


Genius have designs very similar to that of a GameCube controller, and if you are used to SSB Melee, this is probably more of the controller for you. They have a relatively simple design and are quite strong, they feel quite smooth in your hands and the button placemet is, once again, similar to that of the GameCube controller. Unfortunately, Genius don’t have much variation in the designs of their controllers and tend to be harder to find as they aren’t a very big brand. If you are used to playing GameCube more than N64, this is the brand for you.


If you own an Xbox 360 with a controller (wired), you can plug that into your computers USB port to use as a controller as well!
If you play more Xbox than N64, this is obviously a better choice. Unfortunately, the D-Pad on the Xbox controller is REALLY bad, so I wouldn’t suggest using it in your configurations (See Steps 2-3). Many newer computer games have built in compatibility with the controller, making it useful for them as well. The design is pretty good, but if you are younger, it might be a bit large for your hands. Not much to say on this one, if you own an Xbox or really like the layout, get it, otherwise it probably isn’t the right controller for you.


Or... If you REALLY want to play it like on the 64, you can get an adaptor. If you own a Nintendo 64 Controller and are really used to playing games on it, purchasing a N64 to USB adapter will let you play it like you’re used to. It is often cheaper than buying a computer controller or Xbox controller, and often comes with an adaptor for Playstation or GameCube as well. But this option also has cons, you will NOT find it in a store because they aren’t official. Buying them online takes alot longer than jsut getting a controller at the store, the adapter could get lost in the post, or it could arrive broken. This is probably only useful if you want to play the game like it is supposed to be played, and have experience buying products online.

So that is my advice on controllers. If you can think of anything I’ve missed, please tell me. I will be trying out a Logitech controller soon, and when I’m done I’ll add that to the list.

I will add more sections as I finish writing them, in the mean time, if you have any questions about the things I haven't covered yet, feel free to ask :p
 

NixxxoN

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U forgot this


Extra flat keyboard for a smoother key pressing



And the great GC controller

 

Pav7300

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ballin4life

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I think it's a joke. Z is the only way to shield (you can use R but you grab first then shield which is stupid). Although you can z cancel with R and you can also do air attacks with R so double tapping R will do your air attacks and z cancel them for you.
 

smakis

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an adaptoid for 10 bugs? wow they have really dropped in prize, when i bought my boom adapter it cost me around 15 $ which come with the risk not working with your controller (its really random but i got lucky and both my controllers work). Adaptoids were really expensive back in the days, because they werent made anymore, someone might have started producing them.

On topic: The two first controllers you posted didn't really look to have a control stick at all, it seem to be really hard pressing anywhere else than the eight general directions.

In my opinion the n64 controller is perfect for smash, a firm grip on the middle handle with your thumb on the stick and index finger on the z button. For the right hand you have your index finger on the r button and use your other thumb for the buttons, djc and jc shines became so much easier to do when i switched from keyboard to n64 since i could slide my thumb over the c buttons down to a/b. When i taunt i just slap the button real fast with my right hand, only when i got time to do it though (as in they are dead or recovering/really far away).

The only thing bad about it is the joysticks lifetime and material, if you are a violent smasher the stick will wear out, especially from smash DIng much, and since it's made from hard plastic your thumb will take a beating before you get used to it. Im in the process of buying two replacement sticks since it has becamed so bad that i cant recover with ness properly, and i can move the joystick approximately 0.5 cm before it reacts.
 

Pav7300

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Joke... I see no sense of humor here. Can anyone answer my Q about the adaptoid? I would really like to purchase one already... Or at least rec. me another cheap one?



Malva's right, adaptoid is a full two letters longer than adapter.
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Still doesn't help me though :-(
 

Grim Tuesday

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Woops, I was getting R and Z mixed up. Will edit.
Also at the first response, this is about controllers not keyboards :D
And what are you talking about with the Great GC controller? What is that? The picture isn't appearing.
 

smakis

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We are saying adaptoid, since the adapter in fact is named adaptoid.
 

TANK64

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Although you can z cancel with R and you can also do air attacks with R so double tapping R will do your air attacks and z cancel them for you.
THIS!

I still wonder why everyone doesn't do this:psycho::psycho::psycho:

Although online it seems easy to accidentally miss and therefore grab (with Link :mad:)
I guess I'm just not used to it.....
 
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The 360 is a good choice, but I believe that you have to also install some software for it to be used by the computer. But after that, it's a great controller for Smash. I experience some oddities like my character moving left without me moving my controller, but that may have something to do with my controller and the sensitivity setting on my emulator. Using the right control stick for c-buttons also seem to make short-hopping much easier. So, as a Xbox controller user, I highly recommend using one.
 
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