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Tranquility - Game Over

#HBC | ѕoup

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Yo if we're talking about liabilities and everything, what is everyone's stance on Vinyl.? I don't mean just his two posts, I just mean him in general.
 

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Yo if we're talking about liabilities and everything, what is everyone's stance on Vinyl.? I don't mean just his two posts, I just mean him in general.
what the ****? no

IF YOU ARE TOWN

DONT RESPOND OR ACKNOWLEDGE THIS POST. DONT TALK ABOUT IT AND ACT LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Gheb I feel your understanding of em being TvT on the mod surface of levels, but look at it in context with the players. How can you get a solid read out of that exchange at all? I can see townSoup more so than scumSoup from it but that's as much of an opinion that can really be gained. What do scumThem gain from doing this? Forcing a bad-but-not-quite-scummy feeling from everybody or something idk. I can see where you're coming but I'm just saying that putting absolutes to these situations always sucks.

What's your opinion on BSP?
 

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Aside from that, I don't understand Marshy's vote on BSP. The guys not scummy with what he's doing, it looks more like he's just new and trying to understand the situation. I may have to read the slot again but his approach felt townie to me.
bsp isnt new and hes a good vote

:thumbsdown:
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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what the ****? no

IF YOU ARE TOWN

DONT RESPOND OR ACKNOWLEDGE THIS POST. DONT TALK ABOUT IT AND ACT LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED
How is discussing this a bad thing? Are you going to just ignore him? Do you doubt that his play will be readable at all this phase? He's not going to die anytime soon.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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On a side-note, I don't town-read Jerkus. I don't have enough to town-read him and I think his stances so far isn't enough to make me lean either way. He practically came in here with an arm-chair about the sanctity of mafia and how quick lynching is bad therefore we shouldn't waste our time with pushing Shen further. Then he called the whole thing null. I get where he's coming from but I don't really get how he doesn't have any sort of read here, especially if he was alluding to Luigi's. He seems to favor Shen more than anything.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Gheb I feel your understanding of em being TvT on the mod surface of levels, but look at it in context with the players. How can you get a solid read out of that exchange at all? I can see townSoup more so than scumSoup from it but that's as much of an opinion that can really be gained. What do scumThem gain from doing this? Forcing a bad-but-not-quite-scummy feeling from everybody or something idk. I can see where you're coming but I'm just saying that putting absolutes to these situations always sucks.

What's your opinion on BSP?
 

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soup your wording of that post clearly implies talking about his meta

"liability"

"i dont mean talk about his two posts but him in general"

if thats not meta i dunno what is. why would we talk meta about someone whos barely involved in the game when we have relevant **** to talk about? how is that spose to help town in any way? fa real just judge him off what he does. i dont get why youd invite discussion over something that just sounds like a complete and total distraction. like what the ****?
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Yo if we're talking about liabilities and everything, what is everyone's stance on Vinyl.? I don't mean just his two posts, I just mean him in general.
Awe dude c'mon that's just mean. You always give somebody a second chance when they start a game. I'm calling that slot a liability because they've already proved themselves so. Things like that make me think you're scummy man cmon.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Meh, I guess you're right. I'm just trying to get people to weigh an opinion on him because I base my read on Vinyl. mostly on how everyone else is reading him because he is such a problem.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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EBWOP: I got a gut feel of dislike on Vinyl. based on his two posts and I wanted to see what everyone else was feeling
 

#HBC | Gorf

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soup your wording of that post clearly implies talking about his meta

"liability"

"i dont mean talk about his two posts but him in general"

if thats not meta i dunno what is. why would we talk meta about someone whos barely involved in the game when we have relevant **** to talk about? how is that spose to help town in any way? fa real just judge him off what he does. i dont get why youd invite discussion over something that just sounds like a complete and total distraction. like what the ****?
Hey if you're scum at least you have a sense of morale lol
 

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EBWOP: I got a gut feel of dislike on Vinyl. based on his two posts and I wanted to see what everyone else was feeling
then why would you ask for our stances on him in general and not his posts

lol gorf. i dunno. we played some kingmaker game a few months back. i kno he was in another large as well but i wasnt personally in that game. also cmon man dont just **** on my ****list (lol) like that. realize im at a disadvantage by disagreeing with the cleared townie and stances like that (shooting down a reasonable suspicion) allow for scum to hide behind you dawg. if youre not feelin my direction you at least benefit from me slamming against a slot you havent seen much from at the very least
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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then why would you ask for our stances on him in general and not his posts

lol gorf. i dunno. we played some kingmaker game a few months back. i kno he was in another large as well but i wasnt personally in that game. also cmon man dont just **** on my ****list (lol) like that. realize im at a disadvantage by disagreeing with the cleared townie and stances like that (shooting down a reasonable suspicion) allow for scum to hide behind you dawg. if youre not feelin my direction you at least benefit from me slamming against a slot you havent seen much from at the very least
figured it would segway into that and felt like a lot of people would just give me a null answer so i wanted to get the vibe of how everyone was gonna treat him feel me
 

#HBC | Gorf

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I mean I'm tryna invite you to show me why I'm wrong moreso than just shutting you down. Me being a cleared townie just means my words are genuine. The fact that he's at least had months of experience alone makes me wanna read back cuz I was seeing it as noobtown so how bout we hold it off till I get on a computer, down?
 

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well gorf i explained why i thought his approach was safe (that underlined portion jerkus highlighted earlier) and aligned with how i thought a scumbag would hop onto soup. theres not much more for me to say without beating a dead horse so i really think youd benefit from just letting this play out between me him and the town is all. i dont have an amazing case thats gonna change your mind if youre not already in tune but then again we didnt have one for early dabdab (sup dawg. i kno yu readin this in the green room. lol green rooms are like crowds or studio audiences) in luigis mansion aye?

as for recent soup...sloppy and kinda makes me want to vomit but im tryna push past that and stay focused
 

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Gheb I feel your understanding of em being TvT on the mod surface of levels, but look at it in context with the players. How can you get a solid read out of that exchange at all?
You conclude very fast, your impatience is vast
Questioning something that maybe *you* - surely not I! - assume to be the case
Whatever I choose to say, my words are clear as day
But I cannot provide an answer for a question that's so much out of place!


:059:
 

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Ayy GBizzle and yolo what do you think about recent soup?
For now I prefer silence over noise and violence
I understand when the time comes for me to step forth and guide
Now we don't need a riot so I choose to keep quiet
You will win nothing in a hurry for our way is still long and wide!


:059:
 

#HBC | Gorf

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well gorf i explained why i thought his approach was safe (that underlined portion jerkus highlighted earlier) and aligned with how i thought a scumbag would hop onto soup. theres not much more for me to say without beating a dead horse so i really think youd benefit from just letting this play out between me him and the town is all. i dont have an amazing case thats gonna change your mind if youre not already in tune but then again we didnt have one for early dabdab (sup dawg. i kno yu readin this in the green room. lol green rooms are like crowds or studio audiences) in luigis mansion aye?

as for recent soup...sloppy and kinda makes me want to vomit but im tryna push past that and stay focused

Yea I totally feel you, I was reading it and seeing it like how I saw a newer townie playing the game. I'll keep myself open for a reread though when my boy comes in to hydra with me.

Hey Soup what about Vinyls two posts make em so scummy? Cuz if I wasn't so estoopid I'd think you were just tryna ride the whole hating on typically not good slots thing but I'm sure you have a justified enough tea on em to say what you said about him so go ahead and tell me what it is.
 

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JTB: Will you be active ?
- If you aren't, imma lynch you, k ?
- You town ?
If I start going inactive, I'll just replace out so I don't hold up the game.
That's what my role pm says!
 

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Skimmed recent stuff, Soup, what about it provoked your gut feel ? I know for me something has to click in to place for my gut to get a feel. Also, if vinyl remains inactive, we can probably leave that to a vig, I don't really want to say much on the slot right now because i always have a very "wait and see" attitude with vinyl, usually because his play airs to the side of anti-town tenancies regardless of him actually rolling scum, and I also think marshy shutting that line of convo down is good (ie i liked him doing it) being vinyl's very easy to latch onto. That being said if his play is scummy (not anti town yet town aligned vinyl) I think it'll be obvious and we can hammer him away then.
 

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Someone needs to talk to me about Circus though. I feel like me saying I'm getting the same Luigi town vibes i got when he was close to death in that game is jumping the gun in this case, I'm almost afraid he's playing me to some extent but the purpose of it is something I can't get. I feel like I SHOULD be moreso townreading him , which bothers me slightly because it feels like i'm being forced to that conclusion
 

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Also, BSP, what do you make of Swag Daddy Mac ? I want you to be specific and make a stance as well if possible
Shenanigenius, what do I think of YOLOSWAG?

#121: YOLO wants to hardbody you. He's said it's because of stupidity.
From the way I see it, your entrance into the game wasn't anything special. Soup jumped on you to get reactions. You defended yourself, and I don't see anything wrong with it. What else were you going to say? I wouldn't town read you for it, but I wouldn't put you as scum either.

Back to YOLO: The stuff regarding me is where I raise an eyebrow.

#133 is ugly to me:
YOLO gives you credit for throwing yourself out there (I think you got pulled out), and uses that to differentiate you from me.

He claims I "came in and attributed a scum read on Soup for something that is pretty lame and hard to argue against"

Soup put himself out there on a push based off of meta and that's townie points.
I put out an argument and explained my thoughts, but that makes me scummy?

Obviously Soup and I didn't do the exact same thing, but what do you think the intent behind our actions was? YOLO is smarter than this, which is why it's bothering me.

I don't like him for jellin' with Soup right now while wanting me dead at the same time. It's not adding up. Also, the priority switch is fishy. He was down to take you out due to stupidity even though all of the stuff he's accusing me for, that's giving him a scum read apparently, was already out there. Scum lean.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Yea I totally feel you, I was reading it and seeing it like how I saw a newer townie playing the game. I'll keep myself open for a reread though when my boy comes in to hydra with me.

Hey Soup what about Vinyls two posts make em so scummy? Cuz if I wasn't so estoopid I'd think you were just tryna ride the whole hating on typically not good slots thing but I'm sure you have a justified enough tea on em to say what you said about him so go ahead and tell me what it is.
His joking style rubs me the wrong way.

wtf are you serious bro, what did i do to you, why are you voting me without reason!?!?!?!?!? I'm gonna tunnel you so hard for this!
This response feels out of place. I know Vinyl. isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but he's played about 10 games now and I don't see the need for him to post this other than for appearance. It's really off-putting to me because it really doesn't do anything other than set the mood that Vinyl. is a happy-go-lucky-townie-who-makes-jokes-because-he's-funny-like-that. It's literal gut.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Shenanigenius, what do I think of YOLOSWAG?

#121: YOLO wants to hardbody you. He's said it's because of stupidity.
From the way I see it, your entrance into the game wasn't anything special. Soup jumped on you to get reactions. You defended yourself, and I don't see anything wrong with it. What else were you going to say? I wouldn't town read you for it, but I wouldn't put you as scum either.

Back to YOLO: The stuff regarding me is where I raise an eyebrow.

#133 is ugly to me:
YOLO gives you credit for throwing yourself out there (I think you got pulled out), and uses that to differentiate you from me.

He claims I "came in and attributed a scum read on Soup for something that is pretty lame and hard to argue against"

Soup put himself out there on a push based off of meta and that's townie points.
I put out an argument and explained my thoughts, but that makes me scummy?

Obviously Soup and I didn't do the exact same thing, but what do you think the intent behind our actions was? YOLO is smarter than this, which is why it's bothering me.

I don't like him for jellin' with Soup right now while wanting me dead at the same time. It's not adding up. Also, the priority switch is fishy. He was down to take you out due to stupidity even though all of the stuff he's accusing me for, that's giving him a scum read apparently, was already out there. Scum lean.
Wasn't your argument literally just a piggyback of Shen's? You said that you felt my #66 was weird and you didn't understand why I posted it. Okay, so why are you saying that I was reaching for townie points for pushing Rake on meta? I thought I was trying to get townie points because I was looking for an easy way out of RVS? Your logic isn't holding up here.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I think that if Shen isn't scum then I would place my bets on Kant/BSP. BSP/Shen don't seemed aligned to be honest because the need for BSP to put himself in the spotlight with the defense of Shen doesn't seem like a scum partner thing to do. I would expect him to just roll with the common wagon to be honest.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I just noticed I misread BSP's post so ignore #188. The fact remains that I don't like that post because it holds a double-standard saying that BSP explaining his thoughts isn't scummy but apparently me explaining mine is and that I was looking for townie points.
 

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Shenanigenious asked me a question. I answered.

If you're referring to the post where I voted you, I was answering your question.

Your post came from nowhere, and seems like what I said. No one was bothering you and the slot you were trying to get a reaction from was responding. Shenanigenius didn't even mention RVS, which makes #66 feel like a feign for town points to me.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Shenanigenious asked me a question. I answered.

If you're referring to the post where I voted you, I was answering your question.

Your post came from nowhere, and seems like what I said. No one was bothering you and the slot you were trying to get a reaction from was responding. Shenanigenius didn't even mention RVS, which makes #66 feel like a feign for town points to me.
What do you think you possibly gain by repeating the same thing you've already said to me? How do you read me right now?
 

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Someone has awakened me.

Unvote
Vote: Shenanigus Fring
FoS: JTB


I'm playing Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon while my sister is taking over the only computer in the house.
Shenanigenius ain't so genius with not being sure about bsp last time, but he should be about now, right? I skimmed a little and read the rest, so quote it for me if you have.
JTB gets my fos for voting me! I'm so pissed, soup!
 

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In all likelihood the more Luigi's Mansion is brought up the harder I'm going to lurk.

Gorf or someone asked me about my mafia experience a while back. I've only played four or five games here.

Somebody ask me something so I can take a side.
 

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Es manific!

I found the password for the hydra, reading on my lynch break.

:lucariobrawl:
 

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Someone has awakened me.

Unvote
Vote: Shenanigus Fring
FoS: JTB


I'm playing Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon while my sister is taking over the only computer in the house.
Shenanigenius ain't so genius with not being sure about bsp last time, but he should be about now, right? I skimmed a little and read the rest, so quote it for me if you have.
JTB gets my fos for voting me! I'm so pissed, soup!
We'd really appreciate it if you read so you could give reasoning instead of skimmed...

Also meaning of underlined parts?


In all likelihood the more Luigi's Mansion is brought up the harder I'm going to lurk.

Gorf or someone asked me about my mafia experience a while back. I've only played four or five games here.

Somebody ask me something so I can take a side.
Alright, how about you gather an opinion on the interactions between us and Soup and get back to us. Ignore meta talk, just give us what you think of it: you're going to have to have an opinion on it eventually so may as well get one while it's fresh.
 

Shenanigenius

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(or if that's too hard to separate from meta stuff: an opinion on Kantplay's entrance, or Vinyl's if you feel like: just pick something and start analyzing or you'll be out of the loop foreva)
 
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