Tower of Smash Discussion

[Aeon Lupin]

Yeah, he pretty much gave himself away by writing the comment that Nintendo deleted his post, due to copyright. Lmao What a joke.

 

[zferolie]

lol he seriously did that. hahaha

 

[Mr. Hades]

It's worth more discussing this than going in that useless cycle we go through in this message board all the time. I'd rather discuss Mr. Prince than have everyone get mad at troll bait and bring up the god damn "Six slots on the website OMGWTFBBQ" what we've all heard so many times.

This is new and related. We shall discuss.

If you think it's neccassary, then fine. I just don't see the motivation behind debunking an obvious troll/fake. It's like we're carving a whole in an empty bucket here. Anyway, we'll see what happens.

 

[DoctorDub]

Yeah, he pretty much gave himself away by writing the comment that Nintendo deleted his post, due to copyright. Lmao What a joke.

Unfortunately, I feel similarly, however I've never been able to delete a message on this site myself and have always had to put something like "Disregard this comment" or "Sorry, double post" Even for threads people need to put things like "LOCK THIS THREAD" and such.

That being said, yeah...
It did seem like a very weird thing to type.
If not completely deconfirmed, massive damper.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

It's worth more discussing this than going in that useless cycle we go through in this message board all the time. I'd rather discuss Mr. Prince than have everyone get mad at troll bait and bring up the god damn "Six slots on the website OMGWTFBBQ" what we've all heard so many times.

This is new and related. We shall discuss.

You mean something like this http://imgur.com/Te2iDut one thing i love about the smash community is how people see something off they say characters confirm and post pictures like this.Really gets a good laugh out of me

 

[Nekoo]

Well ... He debunk himself with this stupid "Nintendo copyright" . Soo bad ... '-'

Or he's juste do it for purpose ...

Best leak idea ever .
Wrost Leaker ever .

 

[Naoshi]

Guys, did you see the clouds in that first update about SSE?!

Well ... He debunk himself with this stupid "Nintendo copyright" . Soo bad ... '-'

I personally felt he has already debunked himself the first time he made the leak. He kept backpedaling his claims. I was shocked he did it again the 2nd time around when everyone has called him out on that

 

[DoodleDuck97]

"Better than to have hyped and have lost then to have never hyped at all."
Nah, I'm just kidding. Well, mostly. As long as you're aware of the risks and can handle disappointment maturely, I don't have a problem with it.

I beg to differ my heart was shattered when these guys didn't get back in 3DS (Wii U better do them justice)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Wow, just wow. Well, back to Tower of Smash for now.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

It probably is, It's obviously not full and posting a pic of a half completed roster is strange

EDIT: Also I just realized something, Bowser Jr, a mario character. Jigglypuff a pokemon character and Ganondorf, a zelda character are all starters while Dixie kong, a pseudo-mario character. Mewtwo, a pokemon character and Impa a zelda character are all rumoured to be playable.

Coincidence? I think not

Going by this it only leaves Ness .......... Oh my GOD My baby he might come back :')

 

[Aeon Lupin]

I say the best course of action is to ignore Mr Prince at this point. He's obviously the worst common denominator in regards to these "leakers", and probably shouldn't even be brought up. Instead, lets contemplate what will be the potd tomorrow. Typically, Sakurai post up a big update on those days. I'll keep my hopes down, and instead am expecting him to just de-censor the obvious Master Order/ Crazy Order.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

the only way Smash world could be save now is if sometime soon the mode is announce and it matches everything he said.even then that's doubtful because of the number of times he had to correct himself.So yeah smash world for now is Debunked.However ToS is still in the running

 

[Nekoo]

I personally felt he has already debunked himself the first time he made the leak. He kept backpedaling his claims. I was shocked he did it again the 2nd time around when everyone has called him out on that

Well you know , before their release the pokemon X/Y leak , even if they were true , a lot Of guys backpedaling their claim just because they had presure from Nintendo had One even Get back his game version back to his game store . For exemple , a guys leak Greninja like 2.5 week before and right after he say That was a fake he made. After the release Of the game , he will claim That Nintendo Made a présure about his Greninja leak

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

I say the best course of action is to ignore Mr Prince at this point. He's obviously the worst common denominator in regards to these "leakers", and probably shouldn't even be brought up. Instead, lets contemplate what will be the potd tomorrow. Typically, Sakurai post up a big update on those days. I'll keep my hopes down, and instead am expecting him to just de-censor the obvious Master Order/ Crazy Order.

I don't think he'll do it for while actually, Maybe a stage since we haven't really had one since Gamer

 

[Nekoo]

But why ? I love japanese porn censorship pic ! I want more Of them ? Maybe we will have a games screenshoot 100% cencored !

 

[U-Throw]

I don't think he'll do it for while actually, Maybe a stage since we haven't really had one since Gamer

*Crosses fingers for a stage from ToS leak*
Or a confirmation on that Mt. Dedede/Great Cave Offensive would be nice. That really might destroy the ToS leak if it turns out it's not a stage from its stage list.

 

[TheTrueCorrectGuy]

Ok, I've just realized something. This looks like I'm pointing out a pattern, but I'm not, so hear me out.
The total number of playable characters in 64 is 12.
The total number of playable characters in Melee is 26. So plus 14.
The total number of playable characters in Brawl is 39. So plus 13.
The total number of playable characters in 4 is 49. This includes Dark Pit/Lucina/Dr. Mario, who are about as cloney as you can get. So I'd subtract 3 from that number. So plus 7 overall.
This is certainly odd. Considering that Brawl/Melee had 13-14 more playable characters in the roster, it's odd that the game following them has about half as many additions yet, especially when it's built on more powerful hardware, already uses assets from brawl for the game, and has a larger development team (I think). Plus, adding 5 characters to the roster would get the game into the + 12 range.

 

[KenboCalrissian]

One of his posts from today

http://smashboards.com/threads/smas...-pic-october-15th.373432/page-5#post-17794393

This is his post:
"Content Deleted due to Copyright claims by Nintendo."


This guy can't be serious. This isn't YouTube.

Here is the rest of this so called "leaker"'s posts:
http://smashboards.com/threads/smas...-pic-october-16th.373593/page-3#post-17794400

Ohh boy... and to think I bothered giving this kid the time of day. I can only hope that he saw my post about him and it encouraged him to get "clever."

Even without the "copyright" scam, we have him claiming Wonder Red again; no mention of Phazon Samus, Ultimate Fighter, or Machamp; he forgot to talk about how to unlock Wolf and Lucas while giving out details for everybody else again; he changed his tune on Smash World again...

...you know what, I'm still giving him too much of my time. He's done himself in. My only regret is now we don't have anything left to talk about for now.

 

[U-Throw]

Ok, I've just realized something. This looks like I'm pointing out a pattern, but I'm not, so hear me out.
The total number of playable characters in 64 is 12.
The total number of playable characters in Melee is 26. So plus 14.
The total number of playable characters in Brawl is 39. So plus 13.
The total number of playable characters in 4 is 49. This includes Dark Pit/Lucina/Dr. Mario, who are about as cloney as you can get. So I'd subtract 3 from that number. So plus 7 overall.
This is certainly odd. Considering that Brawl/Melee had 13-14 more playable characters in the roster, it's odd that the game following them has about half as many additions yet, especially when it's built on more powerful hardware, already uses assets from brawl for the game, and has a larger development team (I think). Plus, adding 5 characters to the roster would get the game into the + 12 range.

I wouldn't subtract the three clones, but your point still of stands with those three added back, I guess. I could take that as some semi-hard logic for the leak.

 

[TheRealHeroOfWinds]

Guys, it's fake. Stop.

I HAVE EVIDENCE!

The suspect here has clearly stated himself guilty right away of creating a fake leak. He clearly typed this comment himself.

Not good enough for you? Oh trust me-

I've got plenty of evidence right here with me.

This picture right here is a location found in Kirby Super Star, a great maze known as The Great Cave Offensive. You don't believe me this is that cave? Well

As most of you already know Nintendo is doing a soundtrack deal, where if you enter club nintendo codes of Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U you get two cds with music from the game. As you can see one song listed is The Great Cave Offensive.

Mr. Wright as you know not all songs in Smash Bros have a stage corresponding with them.
For example Star Wolf's Theme/Sector Z doesn't have a stage corresponding with it. There's no Sector Z stage no matter how far you look into Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS.​

While that may be true Edgeworth there is another point the suspect has wrong.

As you can see our friend Edgeworth has already caught on, but let's review for those who don't know yet.

This suspect claims the whole roster is unlocked from the get-go, but that is not the case in this picture. For example Dark Pit and Duck Hunt are still locked, along with others.

It seems we have a clear verdict at this point. No point in continuing this nonsense.

 

[TheTrueCorrectGuy]

I wouldn't subtract the three clones, but your point still of stands with those three added back, I guess. I could take that as some semi-hard logic for the leak.

Well, all three were originally planned to be alt-skins. Even if you take away the only added clone in Brawl, who could considered a semi-clone, you still have a Brawl with 12 additions and Sm4sh with 7.

 

[U-Throw]

Guys, it's fake. Stop.

I HAVE EVIDENCE!

The suspect here has clearly stated himself guilty right away of creating a fake leak. He clearly typed this comment himself.

Not good enough for you? Oh trust me-

I've got plenty of evidence right here with me.

This picture right here is a location found in Kirby Super Star, a place known as the great maze known as The Great Cave Offensive. You don't believe me this is that cave? Well

As most of you already know Nintendo is doing a soundtrack deal, where if you enter club nintendo codes of Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U you get two cds with music from the game. As you can see one song listed is The Great Cave Offensive.

Mr. Wright as you know not all songs in Smash Bros have a stage corresponding with them.
For example Star Wolf's Theme/Sector Z doesn't have a stage corresponding with it. There's no Sector Z stage no matter how far you look into Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS.​

While that may be true Edgeworth there is another point the suspect has wrong.

As you can see our friend Edgeworth has already caught on, but let's review for those who don't know yet.

This suspect claims the whole roster is unlocked from the get-go, but that is not the case in this picture. For example Dark Pit and Duck Hunt are still locked, along with others.

It seems we have a clear verdict at this point. No point in continuing this nonsense.

1. You have no solid proof that that track is for The Great Cave Offensive. You pointed that out yourself. Also, it could be a conglomerate stage representing the games in Kirby: 20th Anniversary Collection, as brought up earlier.
2. That image has been discussed before, and could be an early, incomplete version of the CSS showed just to show of amiibo.

 

[DoctorDub]

Guys, it's fake. Stop.

I HAVE EVIDENCE!

The suspect here has clearly stated himself guilty right away of creating a fake leak. He clearly typed this comment himself.

Not good enough for you? Oh trust me-

I've got plenty of evidence right here with me.

This picture right here is a location found in Kirby Super Star, a place known as the great maze known as The Great Cave Offensive. You don't believe me this is that cave? Well

As most of you already know Nintendo is doing a soundtrack deal, where if you enter club nintendo codes of Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U you get two cds with music from the game. As you can see one song listed is The Great Cave Offensive.

Mr. Wright as you know not all songs in Smash Bros have a stage corresponding with them.
For example Star Wolf's Theme/Sector Z doesn't have a stage corresponding with it. There's no Sector Z stage no matter how far you look into Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS.​

While that may be true Edgeworth there is another point the suspect has wrong.

As you can see our friend Edgeworth has already caught on, but let's review for those who don't know yet.

This suspect claims the whole roster is unlocked from the get-go, but that is not the case in this picture. For example Dark Pit and Duck Hunt are still locked, along with others.

It seems we have a clear verdict at this point. No point in continuing this nonsense.

That was very entertaining. Thank you.
However, with the whole "characters not unlocked from the start" thing. I wouldn't count that as a massive step to dis-confirming ToS.

 

[LordVacation]

It's weird some people don't get that "unlocked from the start" means that it has the content that the 3DS doesn't yet, not that it's LITERALLY unlocked in game.

 

[TheRealHeroOfWinds]

1. You have no solid proof that that track is for The Great Cave Offensive. You pointed that out yourself. Also, it could be a conglomerate stage representing the games in Kirby: 20th Anniversary Collection, as brought up earlier.
2. That image has been discussed before, and could be an early, incomplete version of the CSS showed just to show of amiibo.

1. Then the leak should've stated that it was a Kirby Collection stage. Not just Mt. DeDeDe.
2. My point still stands that the roster is not fully unlocked. The leaker also does not include in his original post that the two games have to be linked to unlock everyone. He only said you have to link the two games to get new characters/dlc.

 

[DoctorDub]

1. Then the leak should've stated that it was a Kirby Collection stage. Not just Mt. DeDeDe.
2. My point still stands that the roster is not fully unlocked. The leaker also does not include in his original post that the two games have to be linked to unlock everyone. He only said you have to link the two games to get new characters/dlc.

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=7597650
(Boy, that takes a while to show all the text)

 

[Luigi#1]

Guys, it's fake. Stop.

I HAVE EVIDENCE!

The suspect here has clearly stated himself guilty right away of creating a fake leak. He clearly typed this comment himself.

Not good enough for you? Oh trust me-

I've got plenty of evidence right here with me.

This picture right here is a location found in Kirby Super Star, a place known as the great maze known as The Great Cave Offensive. You don't believe me this is that cave? Well

As most of you already know Nintendo is doing a soundtrack deal, where if you enter club nintendo codes of Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U you get two cds with music from the game. As you can see one song listed is The Great Cave Offensive.

Mr. Wright as you know not all songs in Smash Bros have a stage corresponding with them.
For example Star Wolf's Theme/Sector Z doesn't have a stage corresponding with it. There's no Sector Z stage no matter how far you look into Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS.​

While that may be true Edgeworth there is another point the suspect has wrong.

As you can see our friend Edgeworth has already caught on, but let's review for those who don't know yet.

This suspect claims the whole roster is unlocked from the get-go, but that is not the case in this picture. For example Dark Pit and Duck Hunt are still locked, along with others.

It seems we have a clear verdict at this point. No point in continuing this nonsense.

But don't you find it odd, there are 2 characters here still not officially announced? Let's take a further look.

See them? They are the ones known as Jigglypuff and Bowser JR. Why would these characters even be present? Would Sakurai really be careless enough to have these unlocked? These characters must be part of the starting roster, alongside Ness, and Ganondorf. Now, the leak creator could have easily accidentally said "all" instead of some. It does seem very suspicious some characters have been turned into starters. This statement cannot be proven either way.

With merely one piece of evidence, Mr.Wright, the leak cannot be debunked right away. You are going to need more evidence.

1. Then the leak should've stated that it was a Kirby Collection stage. Not just Mt. DeDeDe.
2. My point still stands that the roster is not fully unlocked. The leaker also does not include in his original post that the two games have to be linked to unlock everyone. He only said you have to link the two games to get new characters/dlc.

As I already provided an exclaimation of the second point, I will only address the first.
The leaker obviously had limited knowledge, and could have only had a few pictures to go off of.

I show you: The stage leak!

In it is the Great Fox. Now, we know it's the Orbital Gate, so deconfirmation right?
WRONG!

A large sum of the stage is on the Great Fox. He could have only had pictures of the one part of a potential scrolling stage.

 

[TheTrueCorrectGuy]

One thing I'd like to point out about the Mr. Prince Leak. "Content Deleted due to Copyright claims by Nintendo" Why is the capitalization so weird. He's clearly trying to make it look like an official statement, so why aren't "due" and "claim" capitalized while "Deleted" and "Copyright" are. It's just ****ing stupid. This kid needs to get a life.

EDIT: Also, when were these leaks posted? I want to know if they were made during school hours or not.

 

[DoctorDub]

(These are more appropriate. Take your pick)

 

[IceBreakerXY]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=7597650
(Boy, that takes a while to show all the text)

didn't you come up with the marketing theory or am i thinking of someone else

 

[DoctorDub]

didn't you come up with the marketing theory or am i thinking of someone else

I don't think it was specifically one guy. I think most of us were thinking it. I was one of those people, however I don't think I spoke of it.

 

[Naoshi]

Wow this thread suddenly gone amazing. I guess something good really came out of that Mr Prince "leak" after all!

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

Okay, what's going on? I've got no idea what's happening anymore. 0.0 Can I have a bit of clarification into what is going on wright now?

 

[Luigi#1]

(These are more appropriate. Take your pick)

While reading through his post and mine I listened to this.
Thank you, kind sir.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

I don't think it was specifically one guy. I think most of us were thinking it. I was one of those people, however I don't think I spoke of it.

no there was most defiantly a marketing theory before any of these leaks pop up back at the old character discussion thread...one sec

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...s-feature-different-hidden-characters.365209/

 

[MajorMajora]

This Phoenix Wright thing is the greatest thing I've seen in a while.

 

[DoctorDub]

no there was most defiantly a marketing theory before any of these leaks pop up back at the old character discussion thread...one sec

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...s-feature-different-hidden-characters.365209/

Well ****, I've got something to read now, huh?

 

[TheRealHeroOfWinds]

This Phoenix Wright thing is the greatest thing I've seen in a while.

You're welcome for starting it. Happy I could make people smile.

 

[Luigi#1]

You're welcome for starting it. Happy I could make people smile.

Yes, that was my first internet Pheonix Wright argument.
That was awesome.

 

[NinjaWaddleDee]

Very interesting. That 8 player mode in a great cave offensive stage would be awesome. However, not sure what has has to support his claim.

Didn't the original poster of the GCO stage say that it would be "unique" in some way? Maybe this is it! Maybe 8 player smash is what makes it unique!