Tower of Smash Discussion

[Meta_Ridley]

There COULD also be an ultimate boss at the 100th level, which is where Master Core or Tabuu Core? could reside.

 

[Wintropy]

There COULD also be an ultimate boss at the 100th level, which is where Master Core or Tabuu Core? could reside.

Honestly, I thought that that's what the point of the final floor is! It does make me wonder who the penultimate boss will be, though~

 

[GideonSmash]

Honestly, I thought that that's what the point of the final floor is! It does make me wonder who the penultimate boss will be, though~

I don't know but one of them is probably ridley...! (Face it guys he is not playable or dlc or something!)

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

I don't know but one of them is probably ridley...! (Face it guys he is not playable or dlc or something!)

You do realize that if tower of smash is real, then ridley is playable

 

[Shaymikyu]

Oh, forgot to mention who my four characters would be:
: My planned main.
: She seems reliable and is suited for closer combat.
: My oldest main and the character I probably have the best feel for.

Not sure on my fourth. is my planned fourth character elsewhere, but I'd be stuck with all light characters. Possibly ? Or if I get better with him.

Despite my comments before, I'll say my stance on the leak is skeptical but not flat out disbelieving. It does have some points in its favor, but I'm still not 100% convinced. If some of the content gets announced in a PotD or something, then I'll lean more towards it being true.

 

[GideonSmash]

You do realize that if tower of smash is real, then ridley is playable

Yea sorry... We were talking about bosses and I wanted to imply that ridley is probably one of the bosses (like, stage boss) but I worded it wrongly...

 

[Dark Phazon]

Waluigi is the 100th Boss

 

[Spatman]

I'm going to beat the Tower with 4 pokémon characters (pikachu, charizard, greninja and lucario, I think).

...but the second run with Mewtwo!!!

 

[Aeon Lupin]

probably the most weird stages on the list like endless ocean, won't be revealed by Sakurai until the official release of the game. And many others stages aren't impossible to predict. So i fear we won't have the assurance the leak is true until the release of the game

I don't think we'll have to wait t'ill release. If anything, mid to late October will probably reveal all of the pertinent info, such as the characters, and Tower of Smash, as to market the WiiU version. Those are the things people are really looking to. If those things turn out real, before all of the stages are revealed, it won't matter to most if he gets some of the stages wrong at that point.

 

[Spatman]

I don't think we'll have to wait t'ill release. If anything, mid to late October will probably reveal all of the pertinent info, such as the characters, and Tower of Smash, as to market the WiiU version. Those are the things people are really looking to. If those things turn out real, before all of the stages are revealed, it won't matter to most if he gets some of the stages wrong at that point.

yes, you're right!

 

[BluePikmin11]

As far as I'm concerned, Dynablade not being in the data dump that was posted earlier was a big strike against the leak.

 

[Hayzie]

"The Swarm" totally looks like Demise potential. If ToW exists, then that means Classic will still exist, too, because Master Core is a unique boss that is intricate... who I also see being excluded from ToW.

Makes me also not want Demise which would bother me hardcore about the Could-Have-Been-Ganondorf.

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

As far as I'm concerned, Dynablade not being in the data dump that was posted earlier was a big strike against the leak.

Then maybe the possible data for Dyna Blade is still being written in the Wii U version, which I imagine would have a slight variation of the code to run the 3DS Smash Bros.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Then maybe the possible data for Dyna Blade is still being written in the Wii U version, which I imagine would have a slight variation of the code to run the 3DS Smash Bros.

It would've been written in the code by now.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

What is this data dump story? I may have missed something here.

 

[DoctorDub]

I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but with this leak... I'm really feeling it I'm quite confident with it being true.

So I've already planned my team that I want to use in ToS
Because main
Because other main
Because Marth got nerfed and Lucina is apparently way better (And Lucina is awesome anyway)
Because god damn-it, he's cool

inb4 de-confirmed and I just got all my hopes up for nothin'

 

[Ursaguy]

I don't get the appeal of this at all. 100 battles? That's not fun, that's Great Maze grind and save over multiple hours.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I don't get the appeal of this at all. 100 battles? That's not fun, that's Great Maze grind and save over multiple hours.

Or the event mode. And I'm quite sure that people like event mode.

Plus: BOSSES. BOSSES EVERYWHERE.

 

[JLU51306]

I feel behind a bit. It seems there's a lot of belief that the Tower of Smash leak may be real to some of you, what's so convincing that I missed?

 

[FallofBrawl]

I feel behind a bit. It seems there's a lot of belief that the Tower of Smash leak may be real to some of you, what's so convincing that I missed?

Game and Wario and Hype

 

[3D Dillon]

Personally, I'd do themed teams to have everyone make all the way through that tower:

TEAM MARIO
Mario/Luigi/Peach/Rosalina

TEAM DONKEY KONG
Donkey Kong/Diddy Kong/Dixie Kong*/Yoshi

TEAM BOWSER
Bowser/Bowser Jr./Wario/Ganondorf

TEAM ZELDA
Link/Zelda/Sheik/Impa*

TEAM METROID
Samus/Ridley*/Captain Falcon/Mii Gunner

TEAM KIRBY
Kirby/Meta Knight/King Dedede/Ness

TEAM FOX
Fox/Falco/Pit/Palutena

TEAM KANTO
Pikachu/Jigglypuff/Mewtwo*/Charizard

TEAM EMBLEM
Marth/Ike/Robin/Lucina

TEAM RETRO
Mr. Game & Watch/ROB/Little Mac/Duck Hunt

TEAM SHULK
Shulk/Greninja/Lucario/Mii Swordfighter

TEAM EGO
Dr. Mario/Zero Suit Samus/Toon Link/Dark Pit

TEAM MODERN
Villager/Olimar/Wii Fit Trainer/Choir Kids*

TEAM MASCOT
Pac-Man/Mega Man/Sonic/Mii Brawler

* = Only rumored as of now.

These may be unbalanced, but I like to go with a certain theme.

 

[BluePikmin11]

What is this data dump story? I may have missed something here.

Gonna drop this here

Pooka         - Pooka, Smash Run, Dig Dug
Bacula        - Bacura, Smash Run, Xevious
Zima          - Zoomer, Smash Run, Metroid
Mczakozima    - ?
Keronpa       - Flame Chomp, Smash Run, Mario
Shandera      - Chandelure, Smash Run, Pokemon
Patapata      - Paratroopa, Smash Run, Mario
Meganta       - Megonta, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Mahva         - Mahva, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Korokorobomb  - Bumpety Bomb, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Tac           - Tac, Smash Run, Kirby
Redead        - Redead, Smash Run, Zelda
Metroid       - Metroid, Smash Run, Assist Trophy, Metroid
Masterhand    - Master Hand, Classic Mode Boss
Crazyhand     - Crazy Hand, Classic Mode Boss
Deathpod      - Roturret, Smash Run, Subspace Emissary
Galice        - Glice, Smash Run, Subspace Emissary
Metalface     - Metal Face, ????, Xenoblade
notice        - n/a
Mcblade       - Master Core Sabre Form
Waddledee     - Waddle Dee, Smash Run, Kirby
Flage         - Flage, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Bokkunmage    - Scuttler Mage, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Cake          - Souflee, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Shiroiobake   - Sneaky Spirit, Smash Run, Rhythm Heaven
Bubble        - Bubble, Smash Run, Zelda
Wanwanpile    - Chain Chomp, Smash Run, Assist Trophy, Mario
Churine       - Petilili, Smash Run, Pokemon
Orne          - Orne, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Dafune        - Daphnes, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Galfire       - Glire, Smash Run, Subspace Emissary
Mastercore    - Master Core, Classic Mode
Mite          - Mite, Smash Run, Subspace Emissary
Monoeye       - Monoeye, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Ohganemochi   - Glint Beetle, Smash Run, Pikmin
Shinigami     - Reaper, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Koshinigami   - Reapette, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Pokkuri       - Nutski, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Octorock      - Octorok, Smash Run, Zelda
Kamek         - Kamek/Magikoopa, Smash Run, Wii U Stage Hazard, Mario
Mcanimal      - Master Core Scorpion Form, Classic Mode
Mcfinal       - Master Core Source Form, Classic Mode
Yellowdevil   - Yellow Devil, Stage Boss, Mega Man
Deathskull    - Clobberskull, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Popperam      - Poppant, Smash Run, Subspace Emissary
Jugem         - Lakitu, Smash Run, Mario
Flyingman     - Flying Man, Stage Hazard, Mother
Starman       - Starman, Smash Run, Mother
Wanwan        - Chain Chomp, Smash Run, Mario
Bokkuncannon  - Scuttler Cannon, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Killercannon  - Bill Blaster, Smash Run, Mario
Bokkun        - Scuttler, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Kuribo        - Goomba, Smash Run, Mario
Dekakuribo    - Giant Goomba, Smash Run, Mario
Eggrobo       - Eggrobo, Smash Run, Sonic
Mimicco       - Mimicute, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Cucco         - Cucco, Smash Run, Item, Zelda
Gordo         - Gordo, Smash Run, Projectile, Kirby
Reo           - Reo, Smash Run, Metroid
Heiho         - Shy Guy, Smash Run, Mario
Propellerheiho- Fly Guy, Smash Run, Mario
Furiijio      - Crygonal, Smash Run, Pokemon
Waddledoo     - Waddle Doo, Smash Run, Kirby
Togezo        - Spiny, Smash Run, Mario
Shotzo        - Shotzo, Smash Run, Kirby
Plasmawisp    - Plasma Wisp, Smash Run, Kirby
Mczakoplasmawisp- ?
Devilcar      - Devil Car, Smash Run, Mother
Whitebear     - Polar Bear, Smash Run, Ice Clmbers
Galthunder    - Glunder, Smash Run, Subspace Emissary
Killer        - Bullet Bill, Smash Run, Mario
Magnumkiller  - Banzai Bill, Smash Run, Mario
Kihunter      - Kihunter, Smash Run, Metroid
Critter       - Kritter, Smash Run, Donkey Kong
Generator     - Generator, Smash Run, Subspace Emissary
Mettaur       - Mettaur, Smash Run, Mega Man
Stalfos       - Stalfos, Smash Run, Zelda
Mczakostalfos - ?
Ghos          - Gastly, Smash Run, Pokemon
Darios        - Lethinium, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Mczakodarios  - ?
Hammerbros    - Hammer Bro, Smash Run, Mario
Dogars        - Koffing, Smash Run, Pokemon
Bonkers       - Bonkers, Smash Run, Kirby
Peahat        - Peahat, Smash Run, Zelda
Togemet       - Spike Top, Smash Run, Mario
Nabbit        - Nabbit, Stage Hazard, Mario (English Name)
Mcgiant       - Master Core Sapien Form
Brontoburt    - Bronto Burt, Smash Run, Kirby
Ghost         - Ghost, Smash Run, Find Mii
Darknut       - Darknut, Smash Run, Zelda (English Name)
Subtenoyaminou- Dark Emperor, Stage Boss, Find Mii
Dosudosu      - Boom Stomper, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Totsukotsu    - Lurchthorn, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Ridley        - Ridley, ????, Metroid
Zully         - Zuree, Smash Run, Kid Icarus
Chappy        - Bulborb, Smash Run, Pikmin
Tikibuzz      - Tiki Buzz, Smash Run, Donkey Kong

This is from the 3DS version. They share data because they were in development at the same time, some assets are shared (like Yellow Devil). We already know Kamek, Nabbit and Metal Face are stage hazards for the Wii U.

I need help identifying the non colored items!!

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Pooka SMASH RUN
Bacula SMASH RUN
Zima　SMASH RUN
Mczakozima Master Core
Keronpa　SMASHRUN
Shandera　SMASHRUN
Patapata SMASH RUN
Meganta SMASH RUN
Mahva SMASH RUN
Korokorobomb SMASH RUN
Tac SMASH RUN
Redead SMASH RUN
Metroid SMASH RUN AND ASSIST
Masterhand BOSS 3DS, Wii U?
Crazyhand BOSS 3DS, WII U?
Deathpod　SMASH RUN
GalIce SMASH RUN
Metalface WII U STAGE BOSS?
notice
Mcblade Master Core
Waddledee SMASH RUN
Flage SMASH RUN
Bokkunmage SMASH RUN
Cake SMASH RUN
Shiroiobake　SMASH RUN
Bubble 　 SMASH RUN
Wanwanpile　 SMASH RUN?
Churine SMASH RUN
Orne SMASH　RUN
Dafune　SMASHRUN
GalFire SMASH RUN
Mastercore BOSS 3DS, WII U?
Mite SMASH RUN
Monoeye　SMASHRUN
Ohganemochi SMASH RUN
Shinigami SMASH RUN
Koshinigami SMASH RUN
Pokkuri　SMASH RUN
Octorock SMASH RUN
Kamek　SMASH RUN (*Japanese name of enemy)
Mcanimal Master Core
Mcfinal Master Core
Yellowdevil BOSS, 3DS and WII U
Deathskull SMASH RUN
Popperam SMASH RUN
Jugem SMASH RUN/ ASSIST
Flyingman 3DS Stage
Starman SMASH RUN
Wanwan SMASH RUN
icon
Bokkuncannon SMASH RUN
Killercannon SMASH RUN
Bokkun SMASH RUN
Kuribo SMASH RUN
Dekakuribo SMASH RUN
Eggrobo SMASH RUN
Mimicco SMASH RUN
Cucco SMASH RUN/ ITEM
Gordo SMASH RUN
Reo SMASH RUN?)
Heiho SMASH RUN
Propellerheiho SMASH RUN
Furiijio SMASH RUN
Waddledoo SMASH RUN
Togezo　SMASH RUN
Shotzo　SMASH RUN
inf_fs_notice_txt2_rep
inf_fs_notice_txt_rep
Plasmawisp SMASH RUN
Mczakoplasmawisp
Devilcar SMASH RUN
Whitebear SMASH RUN
GalThunder SMASH RUN
Killer SMASH RUN
Magnumkiller SMASH RUN
Kihunter SMASH RUN
Critter SMASH RUN
Generator SMASH RUN?
Mettaur SMASH RUN
Stalfos SMASH RUN
Mczakostalfos
Ghos SMASH RUN?
Darios　SMASH RUN
Mczakodarios
Hammerbros　SMASH RUN
Dogars SMASH RUN
Bonkers SMASH RUN
Peahat SMASH RUN
Togemet SMASH RUN
Nabbit　WIIUSTAGE
Mcgiant
Brontoburt SMASH RUN
Ghost SMASH RUN
Darknut SMASH RUN
Subetenoyaminoou DARK EMPEROR, STAGE 3DS
Dosudosu　SMASH RUN
Totsukotsu SMASH RUN
Ridley　WIIUSTAGE
Zully
Chappy SMASH RUN
Tikibuzz SMASH RUN

Also, the Japanese text further confirms the DLC

Spoiler

すべてのせってい設定をリセットする
ステージが ちゅうせん抽選でえら選ばれるとき で出てこないステージを してい指定する
すべて OFF
すべて ON
すべてのステージをOFFにする
すべてのステージが 「おまかせ」でえら選ばれる たいしょう対象になる
ダウンロードでついか追加されたステージ のページへいどう移動します
つうじょうステージのページへ いどう移動します

ダウンロードでついか追加されたステージ のページへいどう移動します = See the stages you have added by downloading here

Normal Ridley is confirmed to be a stage boss, which severely hurts his chances of playable, thus almost killing Tower of Smash Leak.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Thanks!
I don't really know what to think about it. For sure, I don't doubt it's legitimacy, but could those things been canceled from the 3DS version? It would be quite weird to see only these 3 things being WiiU content. Nabbit would make sense as a Smash Run enemy/event, after all.



Personally, as much as I want the Tower of Smash leak to be true, I still think it's fake as we are now. According to me, we don't have enough information to prove / disprove it (and it's full of safe choices). It could be like several leaks (not especially Smash related): correct and false informations. This wouldn't surprise me much.

 

[Foosedogg]

I want this mode. Seems awesome, time consuming, ect. And if it's real, the leak also stated we're getting Ridley.

 

[Aeon Lupin]

The theme of teams I'd go for are these

* Means they are only rumored, not official

Smash Allstars
Mario/Link/Samus/DK

The Cuties
Kirby/Pikachu/Ness/Jigglypuff

Girl Power
Peach/Zelda/ZSS/Dixie Kong*

Second Fiddles
Luigi/Diddy Kong/Falco/Bowser Jr

Attack of the Clones
Dr Mario/Toon Link/Dark Pit/Lucina

Heavy Hitters
Captain Falcon/Little Mac/Wario/Ike

Otherworldy Powers
Palutena/Robin/Rosalina/Ganondorf

Giant Reptiles
Bowser/Yoshi/Ridley*/Charizard

Cool Headed Warriors
Marth/Meta Knight//Lucario/Impa*

A Leader Figure
Dedede/Mewtwo*/Fox/Olimar

Perceptive Ones
Sheik/Greninja/Shulk/Villager

Oddities
WFT/Chorus Men*/DHD/Game N Watch

Outer Source
Sonic/Megaman/Pacman/Customized Mii Fighter

Nobody likes
R.O.B

 

[Shaymikyu]

Ooh, theme teams sound fun.
The Childhood All-Stars:
The Princess Brigade:
I Believe I Can Fly:
The Electric Company:
Reptile Round (and one in disguise!): (NOTE: If Ridley is in, replace Greninja with him since he's an actual reptile)
Cosmonauts:
The Healthy Living Club:

I can't think for the rest.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Reptile Round (and one in disguise!):

I don't want to be that guy, but Greninja is an amphibian not a reptile.

 

[Shaymikyu]

I don't want to be that guy, but Greninja is an amphibian not a reptile.

That was kind of the joke. Hence the "one in disguise" comment. I already used Charizard on another team and couldn't find another reptile. I forgot about Ridley being in the leak, though, so I guess he would take that spot.

 

[The Slayer]

I can't see them launching the game after Black Friday though.

Of course it's still possible to launch it earlier in November, but... the same day as ORAS is really not out of the question.

If it happens around the same time "it will still sell", but it's not going to sell extremely well if that does happen, especially for people that are buying both or all three.

You do realize that these games are on different consoles right? And chances are if you want the other game that you didn't pick to the point where you'd have to pick which you want more, you are going to buy it later down the line anyway. sooo? Should they just release complete games on different dates so it feels like you're spending your money differently when in reality its exactly the same?

You have time when you separate the dates a little. For some people, they're going to buy one of them somewhat near the last minute and they might not have enough for both to the point it they may not want to purchase the other game. Similar people in that boat might not be able to invest into it at all due to real life.

If they release it away from Pokemon's release date, this would cover bases to optimally sale very well for all three games regardless of the consumers' income. Which I consider the idea that they may either release it soon or by Christmas. Not literally in the same week interval with another game regardless of what console it's on. If that happens, its going to cause lost of interest for some consumers that may want both (or all three) games.

 

[leprechaunlink727]

@ BluePikmin11
Can we get a little bit more context for this? I can't access the secret members only leaks group and I imagine many others here can't either. What section of the data files is this from? Why do Ridley and Metal Face have ??? next to their names in one list and "Wii U Stage" in the other?

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

Wait...Does this mean that the Ridley fans have been left in the dark for at least six months, only for him to be a stage boss...?
;_;

 

[Xzsmmc]

Wait...Does this mean that the Ridley fans have been left in the dark for at least six months, only for him to be a stage boss...?
;_;

Are you surprised? He was implied to be all the way back in April. It sucks ass, but there's not much any of us can do about it.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Wait...Does this mean that the Ridley fans have been left in the dark for at least six months, only for him to be a stage boss...?
;_;

That teasing for a boss is strange for sure.

Or it is teasing for the tower of Smash

 

[Near]

So let me get this straight. Some guy makes a post on 4chan, the place where anyone, you and me included can post on anonymously, with absolutely zero photographic proof or even a proof of his identity, and you guys all gobble it up and discuss it for 12 pages just because he wrote a lot of text?

Really? How naive are you children? Do you know how many "leaks" like that are posted there each DAY?


And before anyone tells me that he "guessed a stage correctly! what a prophet!" consider that he got the name wrong, and also that it was a very easy and logical guess based on the game's recent release.

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

Are you surprised? He was implied to be all the way back in April. It sucks ***, but there's not much any of us can do about it.

One can't hold breath for too long, as they say. But I don't understand why they would just leave the fans who wanted the character so much in the dark instead of coming out and saying, "I'm sorry, but Ridley's just a stage Boss", like other characters such as Ghirahim and Chrom or Takamaru.

 

[Aeon Lupin]

Are you surprised? He was implied to be all the way back in April. It sucks ***, but there's not much any of us can do about it.

Well, I wish this text dump was more clear. I mean, even though we all expect say Metal Face to be a WiiU stage boss, we honestly don't know that for sure. I don't know the context of the text dump which states that those are stage bosses for the WiiU, but its possible the guy who listed that just put those in, because it seems to be the most likely outcome for those two, rather than what is listed. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like some answers on this.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

So let me get this straight. Some guy makes a post on 4chan, the place where anyone, you and me included can post on anonymously, with absolutely zero photographic proof or even a proof of his identity, and you guys all gobble it up and discuss it for 12 pages just because he wrote a lot of text?

Really? How naive are you children? Do you know how many "leaks" like that are posted there each DAY?


And before anyone tells me that he "guessed a stage correctly! what a prophet!" consider that he got the name wrong, and also that it was a very easy and logical guess based on the game's recent release.

He got two, there's also the Castle Siege!

... I think we just discuss it because we find the concept cool.
Of the Tower of Smash. Not discussing. But that's cool too.

 

[Xzsmmc]

One can't hold breath for too long, as they say. But I don't understand why they would just leave the fans who wanted the character so much in the dark instead of coming out and saying, "I'm sorry, but Ridley's just a stage Boss", like other characters such as Ghirahim and Chrom or Takamaru.

Because look at this new and original gimmick that has never done before. True, we had bosses in Brawl, but now you can battle them during the actual fight. Woooooo!

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

That teasing for a boss is strange for sure.

Or it is teasing for the tower of Smash

It's pretty cold, instead of coming out and immediately saying that instead. But what about the Tower of Smash leak, that says Ridley will be playable? Would we just have a Toon Link/Alfonzo situation? Or could it be justified with two Ridleys, one being the clone from Other M and a new player model Ridley?

 

[leprechaunlink727]

So let me get this straight. Some guy makes a post on 4chan, the place where anyone, you and me included can post on anonymously, with absolutely zero photographic proof or even a proof of his identity, and you guys all gobble it up and discuss it for 12 pages just because he wrote a lot of text?

Really? How naive are you children? Do you know how many "leaks" like that are posted there each DAY?


And before anyone tells me that he "guessed a stage correctly! what a prophet!" consider that he got the name wrong, and also that it was a very easy and logical guess based on the game's recent release.

I think people who don't actually have the game yet just want something to talk about to keep the hype going. I don't see the problem with this. This leak is more plausible than the average 4chan leak for a variety of reasons, and whether or not it turns out to be true, people love to speculate and there's no need to be a **** about it. Not to mention the fact that legitimate leaks have come from 4chan before.