Tournament videos of my luigi (useful combo's included)

[TheMann]

What up people. Last weekend I entered a tourney and mained Luigi all the way. I got 3rd place behind Anther (Super Good Pika main) and Needle of Juntah (Super good G & W main). I have ALOT of videos from the event, so I'll make comments on them so you all can know whats in them.

Oh yea about the usefull combos, The main one Im talking about is falling nair, to jab to up b. Works alot of the time depending on character and DI. Also lots of up tilted smash kills. It kills at ridiculously low percents. Well... enjoy the vids people. More to come hopefully.


First Round vs a G & W...I hate G & W. Good luigi combos though.

RB2 Singles - Limabean(GW) VS TheMann(Luigi) We accidentally did 2 stock
RB2 Singles Limabean(GW) VS TheMann(Luigi) 1-2
RB2 Singles Limabean(GW) VS TheMann(Luigi) 1-3


Vs lains Ganon. I never knew ganon could be good. I'll never make fun of old man ganon again.

RB2 Singles - Lain(Ganon) VS TheMann(Luigi) 1-1 Nair Jab + up b combo. AND up tilted smash use for last kill.
[RB2 Singles - Lain(Ganon) VS TheMann(Luigi) 1-2
Hmm match 3 must not have been uploaded. I won the set though...


Vs a ROB man he owned me the tourney b4 this one. I guess I got a lil better. Lots of airdodge to up B kills

RB2 Singles -Prime(ROB) VS TheMann(Luigi)_1-2 Useful side B kill
RB2 Singles - Prime(ROB) VS TheMann(Luigi)_1-1 Misfire kill. I wish I did it on purpose lol


These are vs Rofa the guy who hosted the tourney. He has a mean MK. I lost the set it was real close though

RB2 Singles - Rofa(MK) VS TheMann(Luigi) 1-2
RB2 Singles - Rofa(MK) VS TheMann(Luigi) 1-1
RB2 Singles - Rofa(MK) VS TheMann(Luigi) 1-3



And now a few from the smashball tourney. Just a lil side tourney we did for fun. As u all know luigis FS is too good.

RB2 Smashball Singles - TheMann(Luigi) VS Lain(Ganon) 1-1 This was just a funny match. Negative zone kills are funny.
RB2 Smashball Singles - TheMann(Luigi) VS Lain(GW) 1-2
RB2 SmashBall Singles - TheMann(Luigi) VS Lain(GW) 1-3


RB2 SmashBall Singles - TheMann(Luigi) VS JCX(Sheik) 1-1 Up titled smash kills again
RB2 SmashBall Singles - TheMann(Luigi) VS JCX(Pikachu) 1-2 Another nair jab up b combo. Plus this match was funny too.

 

[Eten]

Why do you jump so high all the time! No more full jumps/double jumps while closing in please!!
A good example is your matchup against Snake(not in your list here but on youtube, luigi vs. luigi) but you do it all throughout
It makes me crazy to see it! It's bad.

Nair+jab+Firejumppunch is new to me... that's awesome
Key-sex kick-key-sex kick interchanges are both hilarious and hard to watch
Up angled Fsmash o_O That move is also FASTER. Example: spamming it by holding up and tapping over c-stick repeatedly, it's just that fast. I knew his fsmash was good, but those up-angled kill % were ridiculous

Ok...
crazy...awesome...hilarious...ridiculous... well I've run out of adjectives, nothing left to say from me.

 

[Popertop]

Good stuff TheMann.
I'm very excited to see Luigi showing some great potential.

Hey, you just described Luigi! :D

That was reeeaaally close on that last set.
Stupid metaknight.

 

[chic]

Very cool vids. I'm just surprised you never used your tornado

 

[clowsui]

i watched all your vids
lol you got gayed vs rofa against the wall @ rainbow cruise
but you have a nice luigi, now i have a ROB + MK counter (both Falco killers >_>)

 

[TheMann]

Why do you jump so high all the time! No more full jumps/double jumps while closing in please!!
A good example is your matchup against Snake(not in your list here but on youtube, luigi vs. luigi) but you do it all throughout
It makes me crazy to see it! It's bad.

Nair+jab+Firejumppunch is new to me... that's awesome
Key-sex kick-key-sex kick interchanges are both hilarious and hard to watch
Up angled Fsmash o_O That move is also FASTER. Example: spamming it by holding up and tapping over c-stick repeatedly, it's just that fast. I knew his fsmash was good, but those up-angled kill % were ridiculous

Ok...
crazy...awesome...hilarious...ridiculous... well I've run out of adjectives, nothing left to say from me.

lol you know I never noticed I did that until u said something. I'm sure I wont be using that second jump for no reason as much anymore thanks for the criticism.

@chic

I do use my tornado but for recovery mostly. If used offensively too much it gets predictable and ppl will shield grab you alot of the time.

Thanks alot for watching people. Please continue to criticize and make comments. I wanna place first with Luigi.

 

[Popertop]

I seriously think you have the potential to do it, TheMann.
I would say I'd like to brawl you but you live in MI...

 

[Eten]

Looked into Fsmash more
Up-angled Fsmash does 15% damage, has a very vertical trajectory, least lag
Normal Fsmash does 14% damage, has a diagonal trajectory, middle lag
Down-angled Fsmash does 13% damage, has a very horizontal trajectory, most lag

Which one kills at the lowest % depends literally on where you are at. Down-angled Fsmash with DI will kill the lowest of them all IF you use it near the edge, and very probably screws fast falling characters pretty easily without actually sending them off the side blast line. Up-angled Fsmash will start killing Mario at 81% from the center of Final Destination by sending him off the top. Up-angled Fsmash gets better the closer the ceiling is. Since the ceiling is a more constant distance from a course than the side blastlines are I can actually give you a useful range so you know just about from where to where to expect it to kill, even if the % change based on different height cielings/diminished attacks..., ~71% lowest(kirby and such), ~81% middle group(mario and such), ~95% heavy group(snake and such).

Yes, that's right, Luigi can kill characters like Snake, Dedede, DK, etc. at 95% from the center of Final Destination with a smash. Of course, he can also take out all of those guys at even lower % with firejumppunch, but who's complaining?

Since normal Fsmash usually sends them diagonally into the corners it has the least killing power(same amount of force to it, it just has the worst trajectory), but it also has a bit more range than either of the other two. Overall up-angled Fsmash gets the best results from anywhere on the stage, also the fastest, but there are times where you will be near the edge and the enemy may be around 10% short of the usual and a down-angled fsmash will probably kill them horizontally instead, with normal fsmash being second and up-angled fsmash being the most likely to have them survive.

That's all really anyone needs to know.

EDIT:
OH and I think you should use more tornado too. Tornado has fairly high priority both literally and in its many hitbox nature. It also makes you a move a bit differently in the air, so it's good sometimes while coming back down from above because your falling tornado will go right through a lot of people's attempts to juggle, and you'll still be able to slide quickly when you do land. Tornado is very fast, and it's a good way to race in and get someone on the lag after their attack even though you were a good distance away(similar to how sonic works in general). It also is good for following up a fireball with, and it has a chance to shield-poke if they think they can shield it a lot.

 

[KoalaBear]

well dont the mann, i have much to learn from you since im switching from G&W to here.. luigi is much more unpredictable lol

 

[matthewdw94*]

lol at norfair, you know you can shield/airdodge the huge lava wave. anyway, you played realy great, fun to watch, thnx for posting these. now im off to play team fortress

 

[surrepGuy]

Only watched the first video so far, but it brought up a question in my mind. When G &W dthrows you why don't you do an attack get up instead of rolling? He tech chased you and usually regrabbed you, but if you did the get up attack then he would have been hit and knocked back. (fyi I haven't played a good G&W so I'm not entirely sure what they do)

Edit: Does G&W's dsmash overpower the attack from getting up ?

 

[TheMann]

Only watched the first video so far, but it brought up a question in my mind. When G &W dthrows you why don't you do an attack get up instead of rolling? He tech chased you and usually regrabbed you, but if you did the get up attack then he would have been hit and knocked back. (fyi I haven't played a good G&W so I'm not entirely sure what they do)

Edit: Does G&W's dsmash overpower the attack from getting up ?

Yea for the most part an attack get up after a G&W downthrow = you getting downsmashed. Thats why I feel its safer to roll and risk being re-grabbed than to take a down smash to the face lol.

 

[Leprechaun_Drunk]

as a suggestion, put the link of each video in a post in the video thread. this makes it easier to post them. btw, great videos, good matches.

edit: I hope you don't mind but I put the videos of your G&W matches in the match-up discussion thread for G&W.

 

[TheMann]

Thanks.

And ok I'll place the links in the vid section so its easier.

Oh yea and no prob about the G&W vids. :D

 

[AlAxe]

good videos. I think you should use tornado a bit more though. One thing I like to do is use the rising tornado in the air to try to finish off someone being juggled. People never expect it and it can kill at pretty good %. Other than that you look very solid.

 

[Eten]

Heh, while I have done rising tornado kills, they have to usually be really high up and you kinda have to get lucky to kill with that. It's a lot like Meta-knight off the top Mach Tornado Kills.

 

[eMORAY21]

Great videos! Nice one.

 

[hippiedude92]

Heh, while I have done rising tornado kills, they have to usually be really high up and you kinda have to get lucky to kill with that. It's a lot like Meta-knight off the top Mach Tornado Kills.

Yeaaa. I know what you mean though. I've gotten some lucky rising tornados while recovering. it usually happens when you get them in the middle of the nado.