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Myst007_teh_newb

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I made my smashboards account way before I got into the competitive scene, chose a username that could only come out of the mind of a preteen kid, made my signature during the hayday of Brawl+, and keep this ****ty avatar that is literally a reference to nothing.

It's good. People not knowing who I am makes them more critical of my views and opinions.
 

Vixen

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I made my smashboards account way before I got into the competitive scene, chose a username that could only come out of the mind of a preteen kid, made my signature during the hayday of Brawl+, and keep this ****ty avatar that is literally a reference to nothing.

It's good. People not knowing who I am makes them more critical of my views and opinions.
were any of your sets at aftershock recorded?

also zss is low-mid. you're a crazy person. :B
 
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I made my smashboards account way before I got into the competitive scene, chose a username that could only come out of the mind of a preteen kid, made my signature during the hayday of Brawl+, and keep this ****ty avatar that is literally a reference to nothing.

It's good. People not knowing who I am makes them more critical of my views and opinions.
grats on being on smashboards for like 10 years you old ****ing man
 

Myst007_teh_newb

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were any of your sets at aftershock recorded?

also zss is low-mid. you're a crazy person. :B
Only set was of me and my partner Nashun getting bodied by Sethlon/Strong Bad in teams. No singles sets recorded. In fact, no videos of me have been recorded or streamed in the past 2 or so months. There's very little video evidence that I even exist.

The story of Jason Waterfalls will forever live on as nothing more than a whisper and a rumor.
 

Xykness

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I am in the same boat. I go to events and do super well, but I always avoid streams typically...
I guess that can be good sometimes though, because people underestimate you because they have no clue who you are.
Also you gotta watch how much exposure you get or else your character might get nerfed.
 

Vixen

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grats on being on smashboards for like 10 years you old ****ing man
I made my original account like some time between August-september 2005 when I was on a yaoi binge during high school.

I'm glad I don't have that account anymore lmao.

Only set was of me and my partner Nashun getting bodied by Sethlon/Strong Bad in teams. No singles sets recorded. In fact, no videos of me have been recorded or streamed in the past 2 or so months. There's very little video evidence that I even exist.

The story of Jason Waterfalls will forever live on as nothing more than a whisper and a rumor.
Ugh. Making claims like "ZSS's recovery is broken." and "I play way differently than everyone else" and not having anything to show for it is really irritating. x_x
 
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yo CP9 needs to be on the olimar list. the dude has been grinding Olimar since 3.0 He now resides up north and goes to the Smashinggrounds. I know he has taken a few names from time to time. can @The_NZA help me out?
 
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Ningildo

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Oli's been in PM since 3.0 ._.

And none of the (future) claimers of best oli here actually main him, lol.

Stop maining other characters (like shaq) and start maining oli, then 9.9
 

Shokio

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Oro is pretty much undisputed #1. Look at his results, watch his vids.

Leffen is a better player than me but I struggle to call him a better zero suit. He does good player stuff and wins, but doesn't seem to have as good an understanding of ZSS as a character. I'd put me and Leffen interchangeable at 2/3, with a slight edge on leffen because he's ****ing leffen.
Oro has pretty much dropped ZSS. It's sad, and I thought I'd never see this day come, but he just really hates the changes. So it's hard to call him best ZSS now. I mean I'm sure he can chose her anytime he wants and still body people, but people who drop chars tend to get taken off the list eventually.

That being said, based off what I've seen at Aftershock, Jason is definitely top-notch and has some really creative ideas in his ZSS play. Take it from me.

But this is why I keep pestering you to come to LTC3, so you can see just how well you stack up against the rest of us. Me and Jason will be there for sure. I'm going to hit up Numerics and see if he's interested as well. Maybe we could do a ZSS Round Robin.
 

Venom_909

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For starters these profile pictures made my day <3.

Secondly DMG is the homie and im so proud of how he did at aftershock always cheering for him unless hes playing socal homies.
 

Vixen

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Oro has pretty much dropped ZSS. It's sad, and I thought I'd never see this day come, but he just really hates the changes. So it's hard to call him best ZSS now. I mean I'm sure he can chose her anytime he wants and still body people, but people who drop chars tend to get taken off the list eventually.

That being said, based off what I've seen at Aftershock, Jason is definitely top-notch and has some really creative ideas in his ZSS play. Take it from me.

But this is why I keep pestering you to come to LTC3, so you can see just how well you stack up against the rest of us. Me and Jason will be there for sure. I'm going to hit up Numerics and see if he's interested as well. Maybe we could do a ZSS Round Robin.
I'll go to LTC3 if money allows. Unfortunately it's very-much not likely. I lost my job. I've had some good interviews but nothing concrete yet.

I'm a little skeptical when people are like "trust me he's gldk" without anything concrete but AZ has super secret sleeper players with no video exposure too so I know where you're coming from. I just don't think he's done or doing anything that's so drastic that it would jump her from low-mid to top 10, and her recovery isn't "broken" if you're a good player who understands her options. Therein lies my skepticism.
 

DMG

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Idk, Milkman has one of the best tags imo. I would totally redo my smash life over and pick Milkman as my tag if I could

Jason is the best ZSS overall. I think 1-2 people might be stronger onstage for neutral (this tally includes Oro which may not be valid anymore), but he's definitely the best I have seen for recovery, edgeguarding, and overall combo game.
 
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DMG

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Blue Eyes White Privilege is way too godly
 
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most smashers have really good tags

btw jason waterfalls is super legit
 

Venom_909

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I'll go to LTC3 if money allows. Unfortunately it's very-much not likely. I lost my job. I've had some good interviews but nothing concrete yet.

I'm a little skeptical when people are like "trust me he's gldk" without anything concrete but AZ has super secret sleeper players with no video exposure too so I know where you're coming from. I just don't think he's done or doing anything that's so drastic that it would jump her from low-mid to top 10, and her recovery isn't "broken" if you're a good player who understands her options. Therein lies my skepticism.
Lucario is broken . Jfallz has beaten ipk a bunch GreyFace
i know it makes you feel better playing a character that is low-mid but ZSS is anything but that imo. :p
 

Soft Serve

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Venom knows all about picking bad characters, trading diddy for falcon/wolf in 3.02, and now diddy/falcon for Marth.
GreyFaceNoSpace
 

Vixen

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Lucario is broken . Jfallz has beaten ipk a bunch GreyFace
i know it makes you feel better playing a character that is low-mid but ZSS is anything but that imo. :p
ZSS has a pretty solid match up vs Lucario, and Lucario isn't broken, people are just ass at DI and spacing vs his jank.

ZSS is butt.
 

Myst007_teh_newb

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ZSS is lower mid tier.
Mediocre at best.
She is a difficult character to use.
Her recovery is bad.
Beating ipk literally means nothing because Vixen deems it so.
I am garbage player.
Everyone who thinks I am good is also a garbage player.
Vixen is God.

I have seen the light.

Give me a warning for this blatantly off topic post if you must, but I am getting really annoyed about Vixen shamelessly promoting herself in this thread. If KayB thinks you make the cut, then you make the cut. Good players typically have high enough self esteem that they'll let their results talk for themselves instead of campaigning so hard to get people to believe that they're good.

Also, I'm the greatest.
 

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i wish i could like posts multiple times
 

Venom_909

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MSlJgITQE Me vs Sosa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U26xKnArK4o Me vs Darkgun

Oh yeah Jason is basically the best. I co-sign all his posts. I find out later that he wants to revive Hitler and start a new World War? Too late, I already co-sign everything. We're going down this hole deep
Where do I sign up? DMG fan grill in da house

ZSS has a pretty solid match up vs Lucario, and Lucario isn't broken, people are just *** at DI and spacing vs his jank.

ZSS is butt.
1) You dont know what your talking about.
2) Your character is fine.

Sorry Vixen I cant take you seriously. </3 Axe has proven to be the only really dominant solid player in AZ atm. There are a few with really good potential to take names but they have yet to imo (Luv you AZ for realz) . Beating 2nd string AZ doesnt mean much to me and shouldnt mean much to you either unless its a milestone for you....

Come to Socal and drown in pools im not lending you floaties.
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Follow my example and know your place.
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Until you do something impressive that turns people heads without you sounding off your blow horn just plz stop posting :) When I first saw this post i felt entitled to being on it in some form or shape due to my ego and how good I think I am but honestly me begging to be on it would devalue my placement.

Friendly Tip just link YT channel for Kayb and let him know when new videos are uploading. Thats what I have done for Socal <3
 

Strong Badam

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I went like all MK today until GFs set 2, Max is a jerk and beat my MK with Zelda.
 
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I went like all MK today until GFs set 2, Max is a jerk and beat my MK with Zelda.
i definitely feel like a jerk anyway

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i think im going to sit out of smash stuff for a while, every time i go to a smash event it gets stressful or weird or just generally unenjoyable
 

DMG

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Should underline, capitalize, and Size 36 the "weird" portion of that.

I too am taking a hiatus, until LTC3 probably. I dunno what I want to do with this game, I think I was too satisfied with how I did at aftershock. That growing sense of complacency has no place competitively, I'll probably let that fade away a bit mentally before I try playing more.
 
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Vixen

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ZSS is lower mid tier.
Mediocre at best.
She is a difficult character to use.
Her recovery is bad.
Beating ipk literally means nothing because Vixen deems it so.
I am garbage player.
Everyone who thinks I am good is also a garbage player.
Vixen is God.

I have seen the light.

Give me a warning for this blatantly off topic post if you must, but I am getting really annoyed about Vixen shamelessly promoting herself in this thread. If KayB thinks you make the cut, then you make the cut. Good players typically have high enough self esteem that they'll let their results talk for themselves instead of campaigning so hard to get people to believe that they're good.

Also, I'm the greatest.
Pretty sure my results DO speak for themselves, but smash is at a point that if you don't live in a community where you have an active stream, or you aren't loud enough, you don't get noticed. There's plenty of high caliber players where people just don't know about 'em. Didn't know I wasn't allowed to hype myself up senpai.
 

Venom_909

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Pretty sure my results DO speak for themselves, but smash is at a point that if you don't live in a community where you have an active stream, or you aren't loud enough, you don't get noticed. There's plenty of high caliber players where people just don't know about 'em. Didn't know I wasn't allowed to hype myself up senpai.
WE all know about you. WE have all Seen your videos you link stuff all the time. Ever take a second to ponder why despite having multiple videos your still not on the list?

1. Axe
2. Medz
3. Oksas
4. Heysuess
5. Neon
6. SanchAZ
7. Ic3
8. ForteFreak
9. SS
------------------> 10. Vixen <------------------------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here's_Your_Sign
 

HarmakPaul

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SG video dump because why not.
Twisty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuem5Q-HWEQ (vs CP9, Olimar)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDSucFCvzfM (vs Blueballs, Sonic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gH8FesPFBc (vs Sol, Link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUtFy0-eRFU (vs Steel Kangaroo, Ivysaur)

Numerics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvK7l5Wv54I (vs Twisty, Wario)

Bees! (might be top 5 G&W? has a really strong record (4-0 vs NZA, 2-0 vs Spaz, wins over Mafia, BC, Risky, has gotten top 3 at SG 6.7)but not sure myself):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLDe1icQTQ (vs Mafia, Peach)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKQ8xjMWI8c (vs Bloodcross, Meta Knight)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViyRx9REdKc (vs Disgrace, Ivysaur)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58oAJssHio4 (vs JOE!, Charizard)

Darc (he plays a bunch of characters, but mostly plays Sheik as a main in these vids):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu-BdhSoHYk (vs Numerics, ZSS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EArkrFfnaSE (vs Bees!, G&W)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsDyZEWykD8 (vs Mafia, Peach)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-yknULbwxU (vs Bees!, G&W)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63-ISE6v8Eo&index=13 (vs AtemX, Kirby)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1caJ2-SEU4A (vs Sora, Marth/Fox)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LABWgqoskMM (vs Sora, Marth)

Mafia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKWpc5-_Kdg (vs Reyn Time, Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5U22GoQhFs (vs Numerics, ZSS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpG6Fe9HoA (vs Bees!, G&W)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mACnEMux-JU (vs Bees!, G&W)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9FSthf0Pnc (vs Twisty, Wario)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7AXnW2YFIw (vs Kwills, Luigi)

KevinM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyJq9FBRi_0 (vs Strawhat Jiggs, Link)

The NZA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sV5MW_pCIY (vs The Derrit)

Sora:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH28NZ0ecjI (vs Twisty)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQAKSDGj1hk (vs Mafia, Peach)

Sol (not under Link ATM, but is strong enough player, brought Ally to G3, last stock, Kage to G3, placed 5th at LAN ETS, not sure about top 5 Link though):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWo16_N1JS8 (vs Boreal_Holy, Sheik)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMcyfUlCRGI (vs 1UP, ROB)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdy01_Xzn8 (vs Colors, Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGLqlnC4bPU (vs IceArrow, Diddy Kong)

Link Dittos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgCigB6ZcN4 (Wolf/MOTC vs Sol)
Chart of player records at SG vs each other in case you ever want to take a look at it to determine who deserves to be on there and who doesn't (since we don't have a PR and don't plan on having one):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JwHmJK1Rc5VIwjYR4XntII_lyGhjyEvNk7urC1rCWh8/edit?usp=sharing
 
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