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herp a derp alicious. dear me.
and what does this have to do with my push?
IF you'd seen my posts and thought 'hmm Kary might be scum', then there might be evidence of you trying to push my slot. But as I recall, you managed to scumread me almost entirely on the basis of my push on you; before that you just ignored me.
That's...neat. Alright. I'm thinking Gangsta still, I can't shake this damn feeling I have with him and I'm not fairly confident in who I want next. I think Nabe is acting a bit weird and his push on BSP doesn't really make sense. He needs to respond to me, and BSP needs to start posting more quite frankly.
A night1 Kill is really either "Let's kill this guy because he's a good player and we don't have a cliamed PR or anything to kill" or "gheb got da shortstick" in my experiance.
Wait. you and BSp both claimed "town hero". Your role isn't the traditional hero role. Is "hero" actually your role name?Okay guys!
Since I figured that this would be the best time to use it because of us losing information due to Vinyl's lack of flip, vote for TWO people to lynch. Regular vote and hero vote.
I am the town hero. I am using my ability during this twilight. I'm saying this because, if I read it correctly, the day phase my ability creates is only 24 hours long! Therefore, without proper planning, it would probably go to waste. Not claiming role or how I use the ability until after I actually use it.
In other news, I haven't caught up yet, and I'm so tired lol. I'll catch up and stuff tomorrow probably.
leaning that way. Dunno how my partner feels.
Can you explain why a scum's role would be janitored? This implies a not scum janitor in the game. Honestly I'm with Kary in saying that we move on. But I might as well ask something from the mod.
I agree, but talking about what could've happened is meaningless. I have a feeling that over time we will figure out what happened (also I asked the mod). Take just the 2 flips that we have and say where you want to go.
I agree with this.
Let me talk to J before posting a full read list. I will state that I still think BSP is town and with a BWscum flip, Soup is probably town as well. However I want something from you. You said yesterday that on D2 you would evaluate the flips and work from there. Well BW flipped scum and IR flipped town. What do you get from this?
Come on Kary. You were in my PM64 game and there was a last minute swing onto scum. I'm assuming there are other reasons for why you think Vinyl is town though. Also honestly I've thought about WATT and what Rajam said about him not actually doing anything and feigning intent. Honestly I'm starting to believe him. All he's really been doing is asking other people questions instead of really doing things for themselves.
Don't let J paranoia get to you bro. We've read and talked, but every post so far has been made by me.
I still have him as null. He is currently not someone I'm thinking of lynching.
Look at gigabots. Scum team Jan'd ryker because they wanted his flip to not be shown and confuse the town(even though it was likely he was scum due to actions). Same thing here. Scum wants town to have as little info as possible, and making sure that vinyl's[likely from my POV]scumflip wasn't shown prevents town from moving on that info.
We got that Vinyl was likely scum. It did not change our kary read[scum but more indyish]. We feel that nabe is a likely BW partner. it strengthened our Joey [town]read. It made soup more solidly town.
there, saved you the trouble of looking it up.
BSP didn't actually claim "town hero" though. He said he was Goku, from DBZ. That's why I asked him what his role was called. I wouldn't jump to questioning Joey's role unless BSP actually says he's a Hero too.
I gave up on getting a BSP lynch at deadline and said "BSP tomorrow, right?" prior to voting for Vinyl. For me in D1, Vinyl was for the sake of avoiding NL. But looking back, I think he was mafia, and so naturally I think he's aligned with BSP. I'll discuss that in my iso, but it's not evidence of anything -- we don't have Vinyl's flip and Vinylscum does not inform BSLscum.
Look at the lack of confirmation we have that Vinyl is dead. Occam's Razor here says it's a day-abductor that steals lynches -- that's the simplest explanation, because abductors make players "go missing". Not a day-janitor who takes the flip and leaves it ambiguous as to whether he's living or dead, that is complicated and bananas.
Don't say things like "that kill was pretty telling" and then not offer even a suggestion as to what it tells. IR was a townread to most of the players in the game, and that's likely why he died. Look at his scumreads and other interactions if you want connections, but do something in the way of content with it rather than simply stating it as you have done.
Looking at BW's wagon prior to modkill and interactions therein would be much more valuable. Justifying a Vinyl lynch D1 with a couple hours to deadline was not a hard thing.
By which you mean, it doesn't make sense because I haven't provided reasoning yet? (And that you're not patient enough to wait a few hours?)
Yes.
Really? "If there is an abduction" is a present-tense assumption -- taken as true given that that's what an assumption is, it then follows that I'd use "will". If X is A, then Y will be B.
You've already made a decision on my slot -- you want to lynch it. So what are you doing asking Vand?
"Town is never right" or "Scum doesn't get QL'd"
No we didn't, we specifically were put at unease by your reluctance to come into the game properly. We called you out for sidelining after you made a few empty posts showing you were around without making headway, and your response was to start a weak wagon on our slot.
See, that's the thing though. I'm not going to pursue your logic on voting Vinyl., but right now you're telling me that you voted particularly just to avoid NL, yet you think Vinyl. was scum? I recall you using the excuse that you haven't read up on me once or twice, and I know by now, you shouldn't be able to use this excuse. Why do you think Vinyl. was scum? How does Vinylscum not inform BSP scum? I don't even remember BSP coming back to do anything once BW got modkilled, but I'd have to check again.Nabe said:
What if your reasoning is disproven and there is a janitor? I've gone over my reasons as to why it is important, and that's next in your response.
It tells me that there's a reason. I'm trying to get that reason out of players, perhaps subtly. It's true IR might have gotten killed for being townie and not confirmed BW's partner, but why janitor/abduct Vinyl.? The only reason I can discern is to disrupt the flow of information. I know nobody is going to claim they had a part of it, but getting reactions is important to me. Your reaction is startling to me, and I don't believe that this is some weird abductor. I think it would be really ******* to make a game surrounding an indy dayphase abductor. I'm not going to go further into this, and I'm biting my tongue already.
Vinyl [7] - WATT, KevinM, Soup, Nabe, RadFic, PJB, IR
Really, I don't care for the reasoning you put out. I just want to see it.
"strawman"
you mean my lack of real contribution in a game i was playing catch-up? but anyhow... you think that my vote/push on you was a response to you calling me out? for reeeal?
news to me, bro; i'll talk.
