Vote Badwolf anyone? Anyone at all?
We've got 2 and a half hours left and no ones even close to being lynched, and apparently peeps are all just gone :<
@Mod: Request vote count
Soup: Come back to Badwolf?
RadFic: Badwolf Y/N?
BSP: Are you on Badwolf?
Rajam: Badwolf?
... Kevmo: Anyone who might go somewhere?
I’ve been on IR this whole time, but the mods missed my votes. I am scum reading Badwolf too, so I do not mind him going toDay if there’s no alternative. I don’t think IR will happen.
Originally I (inferno) thought some of your responses and flailing were scummy. When J read up we chatted on Skype and conversed our reads. J shed a different view on you saying that you are town and that you were just being pushed because you are a less experienced slot. At the end he convinced me that you aren't scum and I will trust his read.
I don’t think just giving me the benefit of the doubt like that is good. Did you see anything in specific outside of me being pressured early to make you go to a town read?
And if you, Inferno, had me as scummy, why didn’t you go for null instead?
I'm not seeing any town intent. I'm just seeing 'hey X, what's your read on Y?' which is such lackluster scumhunting. Then there's the other stuff I mentioned.
Ok, but it’s scumhunting nonetheless, isn’t it? Do you think WATT can do better?
I'm mainly biding my time waiting for something to happen. I've grown pretty indifferent towards the game at the moment and think a flip is what we need right now ... but with Nabe having to catch up I guess I'll have to wait some more?
Not feeling comfortable with a BW lynch. No good reasoning has been offered on why he's scummy.
If you’re going to stand by this, I’m requesting you refute what I said in my post explaining my scum read on him. I feel like you’re just going to ignore anything concerning Badwolf, so IDK why I’m bothering.
BSP is the only lynch I feel 100% comfortable with though I wouldn't mind any of the people I mentioned dead. That doesn't mean I think they're all scummy - it's just that I feel like town is better off with them dead for one reason or another. Right now it seems like Gangsta is the only lynch most people could compromise on outside of BSP / BW.
Can you answer my question? I asked you why you didn’t mention Vinyl in the group of people you said you wouldn’t mind going.
Not much more for me to say especially since I've gotten no solid response to my question on what people will do in case of a BW townflip. People that push his lynch should answer this unless they're scum. WATT's answer has been pathetic and could easily be a scum cop-out.
I have multiple scum reads, and I will look at them if Badwolf is lynched toDay. I will also re-read with the flip in mind obviously.
Starting page 18.
I can't remember my BSP read....rofl.
Scum according to my QT post.
You called me town in your #620. I asked you why in my #742.
I can't pin BSP's alignment from #713. I see town and scumtells in there. See scumlink to Gangsta.
Ok, so what did you see? Can you show us?
PJB and BSP are both so grimy, yet I can't see them buddying so hard as a scum team.
@ Gheb I remember BSP's early game being scummy as ****, IIRC I saw it but wanted to pressure Soup before switching, hence Kev townread when he did before me. What do you think of BSP's post which I mentioned above? Link with PJB?
Ok, I’m wondering why you called me town and why you didn’t explain anything when you said I could die in your #219.
Thinking the same thing. I actually think a BSP town flip will make PJB look worse than a BSP scum flip. It'd make sense for scumPJB to aggressively defend townBSP but not to defend scumBSP like that. Another plus we gain from lynching BSP imo.
You need to explain this. How does scumPJB defending townBSP make any sense whatsoever?
@RadFic: garbage read. He's saying that RadFic looks like he's fine with any lynch happening but so far he has only pushed soup, BSP and Toad. Furthermore he draws this conclusions on the mere fact that RadFic opted to go after BSP despite his soup push, which is nowhere near enough to make such a statement or base a scumread on.
I drew this conclusion off of the fact that RadFic pushed Soup fairly hard, and then decided I could die without explaining why. Why did they settle on me if they were so confident in Soup? That’s why I said it seems like they’re fine with any lynch. You are correct in that I based this off of the fact that they came after me despite pushing for Soup so hard, but that’s in addition to the fact that
They didn’t explain why I could die
And I can’t see the purpose in switching to me when they did
You’re one to talk telling me I don’t have significant basis. You’re basing your scum read on me off of two lines.
He claims to have a "slight scumlean on RadFic that he'd have no problem pursuing" but never actually does so or makes any attempts to convice people of his ideas. BSP's not stupid so I think the whole stance on RadFic is fake.
While it wasn’t immediate, I started looking into the matter more with my #742. I wanted to see why they got a town lean on me. Keep in mind RF has been gone from the thread for a bit.
I put reasoning in my reads for a reason w.r.t. to not working to convince people of my ideas. I also consider refuting accusations against me (assuming people read my posts) and explaining why they are wrong as part of this.
And keep in mind, I've you've been top priority for me toDay. I made the responses I did to show the problems in your push, and my vote has been on you.
@IR: another bad read. The most common terms he uses to describe the IR slot are "incorrect", "false" and "wrong" yet his conclusion is that IR must be scum.
Because you are using all of these instances when you are “incorrect”, “false”, and “wrong” to label me as scum. You keep doing this in spite of the fact that I’m giving you explanations for everything (which you may not agree with, in which I can’t do much), or you’re just flat out wrong in some of your points.
He's not even considering the fact that IR could just be wrong about the slot - instead he finds it preferable to counter-vote IR rather than making attempts to convince IR wrong and point him into the "right" direction.
I swear….are you reading my posts? The above is why I’m ruling out the fact you could just be wrong about my slot. It happens again right below this.
@Gangsta: Don't remember if he ever actually bothered to back-up his read on Gangsta and dig out the posts he mentioned here.
I’m so close to being done with reading anything you say w.r.t. me. You are
clearly not reading everything I put out if you don’t know if I’ve done this or not. This is why I keep calling you wrong and incorrect, because not only are you both of those, you keep coming at me without even checking on your information.
If he's right now on scumGangsta then I think distancing is more likely than a real stance. Noteworthy that he decides to vote IR instead of Gangsta despite IR's reasoning being more sound and thorough while Gangsta merely joined the wagon with no reason. No reason for BSP to go against IR instead of Gangsta as far as I can tell so this stance seems fake / staged as well.
I’ve laid out all of my reasoning I have against you. It surpasses what I have on Gangsta atm.
@soup: A meta-read on a player as inconsistent as soup should not be enough to label him as town so quickly. And if he is actually the townsoup from Mass Effect then I would expect townBSP to be a lot more concerned with soup's read potentially being horribly off and questioning him more rather than just letting him do his tunnel-thing against BW. Another read I'd label as "fake" here although I do think soup is town too.
Which of Soup’s read are you talking about?
Soup is playing exactly like Mass Effect. Even if you don’t consider M.E., I’m not seeing any scum intent in his posts.
I’m not sure what you mean by inconsistent. In the games I’ve been in with Soup, his style has been the same for the most part.
Quickly? I posted that reads list on #713, and the game started on post #79. Funny how you’re concerned about quick reads now. Remember when I questioned you about Badwolf’s read on RF? Oh, that’s right, you said you’d discuss it when it was relevant.
Oh, and fwiw: all three of BSP's "scumreads" in that post are people that directly attack him. I'm missing the legitimate scumhunting in that. Would definitely lynch BSP. Looking at PJB if town, and Gangsta if scum.
I knew this would come up eventually. I’ve laid out all of my reasoning for all of my scum reads. It’s not my fault if the people I consider the most suspicious at the time are the ones on my wagon. Are you trying to assert that everyone who is attacking me is town? There could very well be scum on there, so I don’t see the problem.
