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To All Fox And Falco Users
- Thread starter KevinM
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divine knight
Smash Journeyman
lolol. fox is my main, but luigi is one of my secondaries, soooo its a shame for the rest of you space animals but i can almost do a perfect luigi rising tornado
marth's son 10
Smash Cadet
Fox owns Falco man.
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
yeah dude let me hook you up with the Perfect Control 2 vid, LOTS of super wavesdashes in there. anyways here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9sa8133NBI
enjoy!
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
as for the people saying fox is better than falco, trust me its pretty even. you guys might not have seen some of the good falcos out there. its pretty balanced between the two
marth's son 10
Smash Cadet
True, I prefer a little more speed over aerial.
Wrath`
Smash Master
I agree.me as falco owns you both.
Pose
Smash Apprentice
- Joined
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Wow that was amazing! Thanks for the link! Samus's swd is amazing! Very very much appreciated. I could imagine having hands that fast.
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
you're welcome dude :-D
you shuold check out Perfect Control 1 and SuperDoodleMan's other stuff, its amazing.
you shuold check out Perfect Control 1 and SuperDoodleMan's other stuff, its amazing.
Pose
Smash Apprentice
- Joined
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Yeah I was. It was amazing stuff. The others are cool. Just when I saw perfect control 2, it sort of gave me a churning feeling lol. To master Perfect Control.
marth's son 10
Smash Cadet
For Perfect Control, you might need a little assistance from Action Replay it seems. The best thing though, like you said before, is Samus's Wavedash. Does anybody else know how to wavedash with her like that on command?
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
i've seen people do it consistently in tournament matches. I think is was Majoras in Samus Under Construction? or maybe Phanna Mint III and whoever did that one. I forgot
Zink
Smash Champion
Phanna= SWD master.
getting used to a good grip (ie: "claw grip" with seperate fingers for B\A\Y\X and using L instead of R), then you can do lots of stuff that is much harder other wise, and just do stuff faster, like jumping right after shining for faster waveshines, or lasering right after jumping for dshl or nairing right after jumping etc etc
marth's son 10
Smash Cadet
What do you mean?
In my opinion Falco>Fox but not for too much. Falco shine combos **** fox and If the falco knows how to shine out of the shield He'll just own the fox in the other hand fox have Chain grabs combos and Thunder's combo but thunder's can be escaped teching the shine or either DI'ing the other follow ups
Wow haha this was like my first post here 
Speedsk8er
Smash Champion
*looks around*
Ice Climbers > Space Animals
LOL
I pick up Fox every now and then. I have a rough grasp of the Drillshine infinite. I also used to main Falco for a brief while, realized he wasn't for me, went back to Marth, got bored of him, went to IC, Ness and Younglink. Fox players that do the fancy stuff(shine combos, etc) do have fast fingers BUT most of the foxs I see really just focus on getting that vertical kill by juggling you with Uairs.
Fox is pretty fun(mostly because I like Shine combos. They're pretty)
Ice Climbers > Space Animals
LOL
I pick up Fox every now and then. I have a rough grasp of the Drillshine infinite. I also used to main Falco for a brief while, realized he wasn't for me, went back to Marth, got bored of him, went to IC, Ness and Younglink. Fox players that do the fancy stuff(shine combos, etc) do have fast fingers BUT most of the foxs I see really just focus on getting that vertical kill by juggling you with Uairs.
Fox is pretty fun(mostly because I like Shine combos. They're pretty)
Amon Amarth
Smash Journeyman
*sigh* I really do hate tiers...but they are there for a reason.
I'd say their even. I see it as a speed/power trade off. Falco with more power and Fox with speed.
I'd say their even. I see it as a speed/power trade off. Falco with more power and Fox with speed.
Grey Fox
Smash Journeyman
THANKZZZXX
Silhouette
Smash Lord
ive finaly found a non fox/falco player who appreciates fox/falco players
but falco is too slow for me to play, i guess my fingers are stuck in lightning mode.
ive also broken many controlers, not because of anger, but because of the sheer intensity that is fox.
but falco is too slow for me to play, i guess my fingers are stuck in lightning mode.
ive also broken many controlers, not because of anger, but because of the sheer intensity that is fox.
Silhouette
Smash Lord
its not that im a button masher, i acctually tend to flick most buttons while playing, its just.... ummm.... its fox!
Haha, Ok keep breaking controllers no one will care about that anyway
ThePrime
Smash Lord
hehe, all my friends tell me im some kind of freak because of my finger speed when im playing falco. I think it just comes naturally though, more so for fox players, i think you need more of a sleight of hand with falco compared to finger speed with fox.
Artistry
Smash Apprentice
Although falco isn't faster, he still takes fast fingers. Have you ever seen Shiz's fox? Retreating double lasers ftw!
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
haven't read the whole thread, but honestly all you have to do is PRACTICE.
Don't say "my fingers can't move that fast".
They can, and will if you practice.
Especially with falco. his movements aren't nearly as difficult as fox's. He, for example, one of the easiest characters in the game to SHFFL with.
Don't say "my fingers can't move that fast".
They can, and will if you practice.
Especially with falco. his movements aren't nearly as difficult as fox's. He, for example, one of the easiest characters in the game to SHFFL with.
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
the fox/falco debate is simple:
fox has infinite potential
falco is easier to play with.
Whatever one appeals more to you is the character you'll like.
In perfect hands, fox is easily the better character though.
thing is, most people don't have perfect hands :-P
fox has infinite potential
falco is easier to play with.
Whatever one appeals more to you is the character you'll like.
In perfect hands, fox is easily the better character though.
thing is, most people don't have perfect hands :-P
Mysteryfox1
Smash Ace
I use fox most of the time and I'm actually pretty good with him it's just the regular talk just practice and I agree that Fox is better then Falco but that's my opinion
StellaNova
Smash Journeyman
I play both Fox and Falco, but I main Fox. I can do all of the technical tricks with Fox, which result from me spending a few hours a day in infinite time training mode with a stationary opponent. I must say that my fingers quickly adjusted to his moves, as it just takes some re-adjustment of not only muscle memory, but also attitude. You need to try and pick up the timing of it. There are patterns in every character's move set, which also applies to Fox. His patterns just occur more quickly. You start out merely learning what the button sequencing is, for example, in the Waveshine. Next, memorize the finger movement in slow motion so you do not need to look at your fingers as you attempt to do it. Then start performing the combination in slow motion, even though on screen Fox looks very silly, you're working on your muscle memory and conceptualization of the move. Progressively you just move your fingers faster and get used to it through.... you guessed it... PRACTICE.
Either way, I alternate Fox and Falco, and after playing Fox, Falco's combos are insanely slow and require an entirely new mindset for playing. I try to change states of mind to play each. Playing Falco alternatively is not recommended for those trying to learn Fox at the same time, as Falco's timing throws off Fox's a great deal.
Either way, I alternate Fox and Falco, and after playing Fox, Falco's combos are insanely slow and require an entirely new mindset for playing. I try to change states of mind to play each. Playing Falco alternatively is not recommended for those trying to learn Fox at the same time, as Falco's timing throws off Fox's a great deal.
That's right but with MORE practice you can play both of them pretty well
LOL
SCOTU
Smash Hero
Very true. If I was limited by the speed of fingers, i'd lose half my game. (unfortunately, the other half of my game is limited by the speed of my brain)
straight8
Banned via Warnings
when I see fox and falco videos, I don't see how people can even possibly waveshine/whatever the heck they are doing that fast..