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you don't like her because she is twintail tsundereThat honestly might be for the best. Everyone I talk to who likeeven outside of this thread seem to like her for (*gasps*) good reasons and not for any shallow reasons.
(Kneels) I apologize oh Great One! Please forgive me and show me the errors of my ways so I can rectify them and earn favor with the infallible twintail tsundere.
That makes sense, considering her character design. Doesn't means I haven't found people who prefer her overThat honestly might be for the best. Everyone I talk to who like
just 'cause waifu. It's particulary strong in reddit and 4chan...again, these places aren't exactly healthy most of time.
is incredible popular and I consider the two to have similar design choices.
DID SOMEBODY SAY TWIN-TAILS!!!
Hong-estly, who didn't see this coming. (You taught me well Diabetus-senpai)
That makes sense, considering her character design. Doesn't means I haven't found people who prefer her over
Still doesn't explain why she's not popular among the shipping community, considering
has the tragic heroine part going for, making it really easy people to sympathize and become attached to her.
I agree. But after reading F!Robin and Chrom's support conversation, I'll never think of her as an actual human being ever again...
and doesn't? Even with the second part of the game? I'd say the game focuses even more on Robin than Lucina by that point. The whole Grima thing is big and being the daughter of bad minion and the avatar to big baddie that wants to use your body to exterminate humanity. an awfully lot in fanfictions. I haven't seen as much with (which is strange, too). Could be because I don't read that many fanfics with her, though. Most fanfics I have read with her prefer to focus in her lovey-dovey relationship with Chrom. as an independent woman who needs no husband, though, because she is more popular than .
Not sure about everyone else, but for me it's probably that I'm not a competitive player, I have no idea how to pull more skilled stuff and I only know the characters basic moveset and how to use that somewhat effectively in casual play (I can't even combo at all in games where combos are implemented more commonly than in Smash).
I'm afraid that, due to your top choices in Melee, Brawl and Smash 4, you'll have to be banned from further play hereOh hey our top 5 characters, awesome idea. Characters after the line indicate the ones I didn't seriously main, but I still liked them
Because Sakurai.
in, they're more of a light hearted tale usually involving her dealing with the shenanigans brought by Morgan or her trying to get shipping involved with other people. Her character is often like her Smash portrayal: Sassy, confident, strong, etc. which is also part of why I'll use over most of the times. I feel more personality and character in , while in I see a confident man who tries to hold a poker face while he fights. doesn't ever give off the damsel in distress vibe either which is a nice change compared to someone like have already been mentioned by me several times over with my current avi being an example. (I don't have a problem i swear)
What support? What you guys talking about?
Her support chain with Chrom. A lot of people bash her character solely based on that support, even though you can skip it altogether (and even if you marry Chrom, you only need to go to C Support and just make sure to not C Support Chrom with any other potential wives).
Link and Zelda shall forever remain low tierBecause Sakurai.
that is a nice shipyes, we are
well she is nicknamed Zeldawful for a reason :^)Link and Zelda shall forever remain low tier
When I say Lucina is a tragic heroine, I don't just mean her back story because
Heck, people just love to play that card of Tragic Hero with
Well, could be explained by the fact that Robin didn't get as much expositions as Lucina in FE:A, though.
I dunno, it may seem insignificant, but it shows how much fans knows and views certain characters.
That could, of course, mean that most people outside of FE fandom like to see
...can we continue to discuss this? I'm really liking this topic.
obviously has that too. The writers of Awakening make Lucina actively play that part. She is constantly dwelling about the destroyed world she comes from (not that you can blame her) and is constantly wondering if she can change fate and the future although not enough to stop her. Her tragedy is the crux of her character and and is her main motivation and the entire reason why she is there in the first place and Lucina herself makes that very clear., however, despite an equally tragic (some would say more) back story does not act like that. Part of it is, as you said, is that she does not have as much main story exposition as Lucina. But a lot of it stems from the fact that both for herself and the players she starts off as a blank slate because of her memory loss. She then moves on quickly to establish a character and personality independent of her back story. Furthermore, even when she learns that her father is Validar she does not dwell on it nearly as much on it as Lucina does with her past. Although a lot of it has to deal with how the supports are structured, it is also interesting that in almost none of her support she actually talks about this. She doesn't let the memory loss get to her as evident by the lack of mention of it in her supports. Lucina, on the other hand, almost exclusively bring up her past and world in her supports in some shape or form. plays the role of the tragic heroine a lot more than despite the two having both tragic back stories, which as I stated in my previous post is one of the mains reasons Lucina is more popular than despite, as you said, similar design decisions between them.What the one where the see each other nude? (actually, I can't remember what there C support is). Why people bashing her about that? I see nothing wrong with it.
Speaking of Sakurai, I bet this how a lot of people see Greninja's nerfBecause Sakurai.
Don't forget poor oldLink and Zelda shall forever remain low tier
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I was going to say that
x fandom is non-existant and I'd rather see two bishounen together
x is betterHonestly, I hate that support with every fiber of my being, but I can't hate
just because of that. There are better supports out there with her. was particulary bad for me because they tried to shoehorn fanservice on top of that, too.
Yes, that one. I guess people just see it as making her a bimbo somehow? Meh, I did that support on my first run and it didn't lessen my opinion of F!Robin (though the Summer Scramble will always be the true Chrom/F!Robin support in my head).What the one where the see each other nude? (actually, I can't remember what there C support is). Why people bashing her about that? I see nothing wrong with it.
Speaking of Sakurai, I bet this how a lot of people see Greninja's nerf
XD.
Don't forget poor old
I understand not liking the support. I just meant people who bashed her based on that one support when there are dozens of others to choose from.I was going to say that
But then I saw M!RobinxChrom.
Pardoned.
Honestly, I hate that support with every fiber of my being, but I can't hate
The writers are to blame to try to shoehorn romance in such little supports (I'm not only talking about F!Robin and Chrom here). Chrom and
I mean, why couldn't their support be like their confession at the end of chapter 11?
It's like a entirely different writer took care of those.
And that's why everyone loves he-Robin.I'm not a big fanfic reader, but I will read some every once in a while. In most of the ones I see
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he was supposedly good in melee though, neither Link or Zelda can say that about any main Smash game so farDon't forget poor old
well, that was an interesting thing to google (warning, plenty of pictures and gifs).
If you ask me, it's that for Chrom's support with M!Robin is a thought out interaction where Robin is worried about Chrom's safety while he's out doing patrols around camp/town etc. You get a good sense of a connection forming and that the two of them grow close in their support.
This is all from one of our threads on the Zelda boards where we store our gifs and raid material LOLwell, that was an interesting thing to google (warning, plenty of pictures and gifs).
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Do see it. I believe it's on youtube. You see how the quality on the writing rises these.
Still doesn't explain whyWhen I say Lucina is a tragic heroine, I don't just mean her back story because
Therefore, because of the way the 2 characters deal with it I would argue that
got all the tragic hero role handed to him by fans, considering the two's reaction to that is basically the same. experiencing weakness moments and
fanarts with the same focus. and her beloved, whoever this guy is.
Oh, admittedly I completely forgot to take into account of how fans viewDo see it. I believe it's on youtube. You see how the quality on the writing rises these.
The Sumia one even has an extra scene!
Still doesn't explain why
I mean, you can see that with fanart, too. You'll find quite a bit of fanart despitingI find it hard to findGrima possession
I'll go with that and throw a half-***** theory based on that, that people today wants to see Heros being more sensitive and show more weakness and Heroines being more strong and show less negative feelings such as sadness.
Of course, that's a long stretch, and a conclusion I came to after my own searches. Of course I won't read all damn fanfiction and be able to find all fanarts in the internet. I just try to do that
Fangirls in general, in my experience, just love tragic male heroes and drama in general, so that could explain why they focus on that part in particular when writing fanfiction or drawing fanart. Then, they like to put themselves in the place of the Heroine and have a fantastic romance with the prince, which would explain why I see so many lovey-dovey fanfictions involving
I have no idea what the fanboys think though
Welp, so many weird conclusions.
although that was a central part of your position. Whoops, my bad. I was only focusing on one of the reasons why Lucina is more popular than Robin (either one really) with only the source material in mind and not fandom.
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