Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[The Merc]

I haven't explored female Morgan's pairings much yet, so I'll see when I support her more.

And I'm fine. School is just too hectic right now. Nice to see you again!

Agreed. Sassy is fun too and pretty in character with herself in Awakening (aside from her sort of cold Lucina victory quote, but I've heard they go at it in their non-mother-daughter support, and even when she's her mother, she can occasionally make remarks like in the Hot Spring Scramble, so maybe it is too).

Thanks. This video bascially explains my feels when I came back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmTFOS9TFVQ

Also, I do like sassy characters when the are done well, ala and (sometimes), though.....

Sassy Lucina is best Lucina tho

While it is, I still like Caring Lucina too. Also, hi Shrooby, it's me, Unkown Hero, How are you?

 

[shrooby]

I've heard they go at it in their non-mother-daughter support

They do.
I think it's one of the funniest supports in the game.

While it is, I still like Caring Lucina too. Also, hi Shrooby, it's me, Unkown Hero, How are you?

Caring Lucina is okay.
I'm also a fan of sadistic Lucina because it makes me laugh the one time it happens...

Though, as a connoisseur of sass and snark, I have more appreciation for the arguably out-of-character sassy Lucina.

And I've been good, thanks for asking.
I made a new avatar and I'm loving how stupid it looks.

How are you liking your new account?
Do you feel...reborn?

 

[Shaymikyu]

They do.
I think it's one of the funniest supports in the game.



Caring Lucina is okay.
I'm also a fan of sadistic Lucina because it makes me laugh the one time it happens...

Though, as a connoisseur of sass and snark, I have more appreciation for the arguably out-of-character sassy Lucina.

And I've been good, thanks for asking.
I made a new avatar and I'm loving how stupid it looks.

How are you liking your new account?
Do you feel...reborn?

I'll have to try it on my Yarne/Robin playthrough.

And wow, I need to do Inigo and Lucina's support. Shame she's paired up on all three of my files already.

 

[The Merc]

They do.
I think it's one of the funniest supports in the game.



Caring Lucina is okay.
I'm also a fan of sadistic Lucina because it makes me laugh the one time it happens...

Though, as a connoisseur of sass and snark, I have more appreciation for the arguably out-of-character sassy Lucina.

And I've been good, thanks for asking.
I made a new avatar and I'm loving how stupid it looks.

How are you liking your new account?
Do you feel...reborn?

I guess your right. And your avatar looks very silly

this video that I posted before explains my feeling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmTFOS9TFVQ

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

/Analysis/

Sweet analysis there. At the moment though, it's just making me feel like I can't find anyone who I can talk about these things in SSB-fandom without having to be "in the fads". Makes me wonder if I'm difficult to socialize in the whole fanbase outside of the usually gaming one (like here).

Still, I really appreciate your inputs to this. My laments are merely dealing with alternate interpretations from Smash-fandom as the "canon" if ever in Smash-fandom, whether I like it or not. I could perhaps use just detaching from that rather than think it as irremovable thorn at my side.

The irony is that it's not too far off from the general Greek mythology depicting the gods as jerks or sexual. Kid Icarus plays with the former a lot more for obvious reasons. Though you have to admit some of her actions are rather mean, like turning Pit into live bait to lure out a Hewdraw or casually tossing aside Pit after he failed to defeat Link.

Of course, these are the times when I found them funny and fitting, (Palutena's egoism and overconfidence, pft) - though the latter, not so much. I guess execution was bit poorly done IMO to get me laughing.
I didn't find it really "funny" after how poorly Pit did against Link. He should have boasted more about himself in the scene just to ask for himself being thrown out. IDK.
Actually, a lot in Smash 4 is somewhat poorly done compared to Uprising.

Sexual part, again, wish it had more "craft" to it instead plain "anime fanservice". It's done to death before in so many other similar media. I guess I'm just tired of same ol' tropes instead of doing them new (without exaggarating them.)

Palutena's a fantastic ****head and the quicker everyone realizes it, the better.

Well I just don't want to categorize her as just one of those stock characters inside this "archetype", because I've seen that many times already and I remember Palutena execute it in a way that was wittily done instead of blatant jerkassery. I should see her quotes as really being jerk to Pit (when mostly she messes or teases him, but not to a point where I found disliking her.

Oh. right, also:

Found this on Tumblr.

(Silly Chrom, you're gonna only put Grima back to it's slumber for next millenias)

 

[Reila]

Something along the lines of "Palutena is a sadist and Pit is her chew toy" is not that and has some merit to it.

She's a jerk.

She is and that is fine. I actually appreciate this trait of her (and Viridi's, who is also a jerk).

What I don't appreciate is the oversexualization of the character and I don't think Palutena being based on a Greek goddess (Athena) justifies that.

 

[IceAnt573]

She is and that is fine. I actually appreciate this trait of her (and Viridi's, who is also a jerk).

What I don't appreciate is the oversexualization of the character and I don't think Palutena being based on a Greek goddess (Athena) justifies that.

Ehh...the most sexualizing part of Palutena is probably the trailer and that's because Nintendo decided to let Shaft animate Palutena's trailer.


Why is there such an extensive Palutena character analysis going on?

 

[Robertman2]

First Gen:

Spoiler

Chrom x Sumia
Lissa x Vaike
Sully x Kellam
Miriel x Stahl
Maribelle x Frederick
Panne x Ricken
Cordelia x Libra
Nowi x Gregor
Tharja x Gaius (this comic is now incredibly awesome!)
Olivia x Henry
Cherche x Virion

Lon'qu and Donnel support equally (slowly) with all women. Lon'qu because he has that phobia. Donnel because he's just an extra. The Avatar also supports equally (slowly) with all of the opposite gender.

Second Gen:

Spoiler

Lucina x Laurent
Kjelle x Owain
Cynthia x Inigo
Severa x Brady
Noire x Yarne
Nah x Gerome

The Morgans support equally (slowly) with all of the opposite gender.

BTW the "canon" Lucina pairing is actually probably my favorite pairing support-wise which owns.

HOW LAURNET STEAL MY WAIFU. Also, I call BS on most of these pairings.

 

[Folt]

HOW LAURNET STEAL MY WAIFU. Also, I call BS on most of these pairings.

Too bad they were coded like that in the game then.

 

[Shaymikyu]

Sweet analysis there. At the moment though, it's just making me feel like I can't find anyone who I can talk about these things in SSB-fandom without having to be "in the fads". Makes me wonder if I'm difficult to socialize in the whole fanbase outside of the usually gaming one (like here).

Still, I really appreciate your inputs to this. My laments are merely dealing with alternate interpretations from Smash-fandom as the "canon" if ever in Smash-fandom, whether I like it or not. I could perhaps use just detaching from that rather than think it as irremovable thorn at my side.



Of course, these are the times when I found them funny and fitting, (Palutena's egoism and overconfidence, pft) - though the latter, not so much. I guess execution was bit poorly done IMO to get me laughing.
I didn't find it really "funny" after how poorly Pit did against Link. He should have boasted more about himself in the scene just to ask for himself being thrown out. IDK.
Actually, a lot in Smash 4 is somewhat poorly done compared to Uprising.

Sexual part, again, wish it had more "craft" to it instead plain "anime fanservice". It's done to death before in so many other similar media. I guess I'm just tired of same ol' tropes instead of doing them new (without exaggarating them.)



Well I just don't want to categorize her as just one of those stock characters inside this "archetype", because I've seen that many times already and I remember Palutena execute it in a way that was wittily done instead of blatant jerkassery. I should see her quotes as really being jerk to Pit (when mostly she messes or teases him, but not to a point where I found disliking her.

Oh. right, also:

Found this on Tumblr.

(Silly Chrom, you're gonna only put Grima back to it's slumber for next millenias)

Wow, that's actually a really clever event idea. Shame it looks like we can't be , though. Then again, would never want to hurt .

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

would never want to hurt .

Sakurai has you covered on that. If Charizard Mega Evolves into X, none of Robin's fire, electric, flying, or dark tomes would be supereffective robin and charizard confirmed for s support

 

[Pikachewy99]

So I just had a ROB on For Glory DI Thoron downward and skip along the stage instead of going up and away.

Uh-oh.

This has happened to me multiple times. Not just with rob players too. I've seen it with mario and probably more, but I don't see it much because people try to shield/reflect/absorb instead of taking the hit. Usually when they take the hit, they don't know how to DI it. This trick will probably become known sooner or later though.

 

[Raziek]

Not if you guys stop talking about it.

 

[Opossum]

Oh. right, also:

Found this on Tumblr.

(Silly Chrom, you're gonna only put Grima back to it's slumber for next millenias)

Oh hey, would you look at that. A positive Smash depiction of Chrom! What a time to be alive.

 

[False Sense]

Oh hey, would you look at that. A positive Smash depiction of Chrom! What a time to be alive.

Well, to be fair, Robin's Final Smash as a whole is a pretty positive depiction of Chrom.

 

[Robertman2]

Well, to be fair, Robin's Final Smash as a whole is a pretty positive depiction of Chrom.

Unless it misses.

 

[Opossum]

Well, to be fair, Robin's Final Smash as a whole is a pretty positive depiction of Chrom.

True, though the Guidance slightly undermines it. Slightly.

I'm liking this event though. I'll be replaying it a lot. Sorry, Charizard.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Unless it misses.

And man, it's easy to do that. The guy has to be basically "slammed" on the opponents rather than hope his "hitboxes" actually work in his sword swipe. I find that almost hilarious. (Hope this gets fixed in the patches or in the WiIU-version).

But TBH, False has a point. In fact, Chrom's moves during Final Smash incorporates his animations from Awakening to the attacks he does on the opponent. Shows off that these guys put lots of care to him like most cast in Smash.
Noticed this after revisiting Awakening.

 

[AustarusIV]

True, though the Guidance slightly undermines it. Slightly.

I'm liking this event though. I'll be replaying it a lot. Sorry, Charizard.

Eh, go ahead, I don't mind.

Spoiler

At least I'm in the game as a fighter.

 

[Shaymikyu]

And man, it's easy to do that. The guy has to be basically "slammed" on the opponents rather than hope his "hitboxes" actually work in his sword swipe. I find that almost hilarious. (Hope this gets fixed in the patches or in the WiIU-version).

But TBH, False has a point. In fact, Chrom's animations when using the Final Smash incorporates his animations from Awakening to the attacks he does on the opponent. Noticed this after revisiting Awakening.

Yeah, I still need to get better at aiming poor Chrom. Just when I think I have it down, he misses yet again. If someone jumps a certain way right when you launch it you're done and it fails. I definitely hope it gets tweaked since most of the other "aiming" final smashes aren't that finicky.

Whoa, didn't notice that. I'll have to look at that!

 

[IceAnt573]

Charizard was compared to Medeus before and now Grima....

 

[False Sense]

True, though the Guidance slightly undermines it. Slightly.

I'm liking this event though. I'll be replaying it a lot. Sorry, Charizard.

Hey, at least it's true to his character.

 

[Raziek]

This is how I feel when someone asks me a question about Robin and I don't know the answer.

 

[Hong]

This is how I feel when someone asks me a question about Robin and I don't know the answer.

We no longer have @CharZane around to carry the Robin forum for us.

Hopefully I'll be able to answer questions more often after the Wii U version ships and I am more interested in playing.

 

[Raziek]

I should probably pop into the Q/A thread more often, I just tend to forget about it due to other commitments.

 

[Opossum]

Hey, at least it's true to his character.

Not the part about Chrom not being able to Aether

But alas, the best I can hope for is that down the line if the Awakening universe is expanded a bit (possible sequel, SMTxFE, etc) that Great Lord Chrom is further used, as that form has more obvious potential (lance usage with a weapon switch, cool jumping animations, badass armor, holy powers from the Exalted Falchion, healing, skills) and Sakurai changes his stance a bit, no pun intended.

I just don't want to see Chrom be Robin's Toad forever Though admittedly he's still much more badass than Toad, fittingly.


I just think it'd be incredibly neat to have both Chrom and Robin playable. Imagine that doubles match potential against Marth and Ike, for example.

 

[LIQUID12A]

We no longer have @CharZane around to carry the Robin forum for us.

But hey, we got 2-3 frequent mods here so it must count for something

 

[False Sense]

Not the part about Chrom not being able to Aether

But alas, the best I can hope for is that down the line if the Awakening universe is expanded a bit (possible sequel, SMTxFE, etc) that Great Lord Chrom is further used, as that form has more obvious potential (lance usage with a weapon switch, cool jumping animations, badass armor, holy powers from the Exalted Falchion, healing, skills) and Sakurai changes his stance a bit, no pun intended.

I just don't want to see Chrom be Robin's Toad forever Though admittedly he's still much more badass than Toad, fittingly.

I just think it'd be incredibly neat to have both Chrom and Robin playable. Imagine that doubles match potential against Marth and Ike, for example.

Actually, I can't help but wonder if the Aether thing was a reference to how the attack is animated... Ike does a huge jump for his Aether attack in his games. Chrom doesn't...

Maybe I'm just over analyzing things...

 

[LIQUID12A]

Actually, I can't help but wonder if the Aether thing was a reference to how the attack is animated... Ike does a huge jump for his Aether attack in his games. Chrom doesn't...

Maybe I'm just over analyzing things...

The strawgrasping is strong with this one

 

[Opossum]

Actually, I can't help but wonder if the Aether thing was a reference to how the attack is animated... Ike does a huge jump for his Aether attack in his games. Chrom doesn't...

Maybe I'm just over analyzing things...

One thing I admittedly found funny is that while Palutena says an Aether recovery move, Chrom technically still does have that. Aether recovers damage.

 

[Hong]

The more I think about it, the less I want an Awakening sequel, and the more I want them to remake the Jugdral saga.

Namely Seisen no Keifu, arguably the best entry in the series for some. It's a huge disservice that much of the international fanbase can't actually play it, legibly or legally. It would be great if it had some modern conveniences like being able to swap gear or the more streamlined command system from Awakening.

And honestly I feel it's possible to fit FE5 into FE4 without much compromise.

I should probably pop into the Q/A thread more often, I just tend to forget about it due to other commitments.

No worries, friend. I'm getting better at juggling my re-involvement of Melee and these forums by narrowing down the places I bother with, so hopefully I should be around outside of the social threads more often.

Actually, I can't help but wonder if the Aether thing was a reference to how the attack is animated... Ike does a huge jump for his Aether attack in his games. Chrom doesn't...

That is the first thing I thought of.

 

[Moydow]

The more I think about it, the less I want an Awakening sequel, and the more I want them to remake the Jugdral saga.

Namely Seisen no Keifu, arguably the best entry in the series for some. It's a huge disservice that much of the international fanbase can't actually play it, legibly or legally. It would be great if it had some modern conveniences like being able to swap gear or the more streamlined command system from Awakening.

And honestly I feel it's possible to fit FE5 into FE4 without much compromise.

I've wanted an FE4 remake ever since I found out Awakening had the children system. I wonder if they'd try to implement the Avatar into an FE4 remake? (honestly, I don't want them to, since it would probably result in them screwing up Chapter 5)

I'm not even sure if I want an Awakening sequel - at least, not one using the same characters. I'd be okay with them doing something involving the first exalt, though, or maybe even Chrom's father (if they do this, you'd presumably be playing on the Plegian side, since Chrom's father was the aggressor).

 

[ThunderSageNun]

The more I think about it, the less I want an Awakening sequel, and the more I want them to remake the Jugdral saga.

Namely Seisen no Keifu, arguably the best entry in the series for some. It's a huge disservice that much of the international fanbase can't actually play it, legibly or legally. It would be great if it had some modern conveniences like being able to swap gear or the more streamlined command system from Awakening.
.

agreed, and while this might be a misunderstanding from what I read, I heard you need skills in order to perform stuff like double hits or critical attacks, and I'm so used to those being a main part of the normal mechanics that I'd feel completely alienated if it's really the case for the original, so maybe updating that would make me much more eager to play the game. I'd also love if they'd actually localized the Mystery of the Emblem remake, but that's just a pipe dream now that the DS is long dead.

 

[Moydow]

I heard you need skills in order to perform stuff like double hits or critical attacks

This is correct.
http://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Pursuit
http://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Critical_(skill)

though getting 50 kills with a single weapon grants that weapon (and only that weapon) the Critical skill, so it is possible for any character to get the critical skill eventually. And it's possible to get Pursuit on almost every child through inheritance, so outside the first generation you won't really miss it (and the first is dominated by Sigurd anyway, who does have Pursuit).

 

[Hong]

I was supposed to wait until tomorrow to bust out this new avatar, but with this FE4 talk, I just couldn't wait.

 

[StarBot]

Man, drawing Robin (both male and female) is almost near impossible.

Sigh, 8 more days Star.... 8 more days...

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Yeah, just ask people like @ Hong and @ Robertman2 why. It's a long story

No love for the NonSpecificGuy who POINTED IT OUT?? THANKS!
jk

 

[SyncNatsyu]

Ahhhhhhh~!

 

[Shaymikyu]

Not the part about Chrom not being able to Aether

But alas, the best I can hope for is that down the line if the Awakening universe is expanded a bit (possible sequel, SMTxFE, etc) that Great Lord Chrom is further used, as that form has more obvious potential (lance usage with a weapon switch, cool jumping animations, badass armor, holy powers from the Exalted Falchion, healing, skills) and Sakurai changes his stance a bit, no pun intended.

I just don't want to see Chrom be Robin's Toad forever Though admittedly he's still much more badass than Toad, fittingly.

I just think it'd be incredibly neat to have both Chrom and Robin playable. Imagine that doubles match potential against Marth and Ike, for example.

I was confused about that too, but it was pointed out to me that Ike in his home game (I think it was his home game, or maybe just SSB) has a different animation for Aether, hence why he can recover with it. I still think they could work Chrom's Aether into his moveset if they really wanted to. The Awakening is a must, possibly as a final smash or just have him carry around his Exhalted Falchion all the time. EDIT: 'd on the Aether thing.

I honestly wouldn't mind Chrom as his own character. I liked him in Awakening. It'd be fun to do tag battles with him and Robin, too, just like old times in Awakening. That said, now that I know more about FE, I'd like to see other classes playable, like one of the axe wielders or a Pegasus Knight or Wyvern Rider. Maybe a future FE will take a page from Robin and include, in addition to the Lord, a protagonist with one of those (or even just make a Lord that shares similarities to those- I know we had Axe wielding lords before like Hector).

EDIT:

I've wanted an FE4 remake ever since I found out Awakening had the children system. I wonder if they'd try to implement the Avatar into an FE4 remake? (honestly, I don't want them to, since it would probably result in them screwing up Chapter 5)

I'm not even sure if I want an Awakening sequel - at least, not one using the same characters. I'd be okay with them doing something involving the first exalt, though, or maybe even Chrom's father (if they do this, you'd presumably be playing on the Plegian side, since Chrom's father was the aggressor).

Ooh, that last idea is neat, actually. I'd love to see that fleshed out more.

I like the first idea too, mainly to let me play another FE game I haven't played yet and I'm all for another game with the child system.

 

[StarBot]

Ahhhhhhh~!

Beautiful post, I shed a tear while reading it