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Oh. Um, oops?(Forgot to answer this earlier) Yes. Go back to the voting page. You'll see "please limit your vote to one per person," or something like that, written near the top. I've heard some people say that your most recent vote counts as your "valid" vote. That's why I'm considering changing my vote if I find someone more to my liking than Mags. I'm only assuming such is the case, despite the lack of elaboration as to whether or not it's true.
You missed my point entirely. I meant that his flaws don't need to be existent for him to be a relatable character, at least to some people. (like me)
The courtroom is hardly a pleasant sight these days, I'm afraid...K then. It's not gonna be a pleasant sight.
I voted for Viridi, Phoenix Wright, and Shantae.
Interesting... Not that I'm complaining, but I'm starting to think literally every person who voted save me voted for as many characters as they wanted. Does nobody else pay attention?I voted for Zero, Firion, and Treecko.
I, for one, find perfection a desirable trait, so even if his personality isn't unique, he's still a likeable character. I also think his backstory/in-game story in-general is very fascinating. I think you're so focused on looking for flaws that you're ignoring literally everything else. You should play the game again and refresh your memory.Oh. Um, oops?
He's relatable, yes, but not necessarily an interesting character, that's my main problem. Then again, that jolly ole @Moydow fella said that he's better in a recent translation, and I haven't played his game in a while, so I dunno.
Guess I should. It's been a very long while, so you never know...Interesting... Not that I'm complaining, but I'm starting to think literally every person who voted save me voted for as many characters as they wanted. Does nobody else pay attention?
Not sure who Firion or Zero are. Explanation?
I, for one, find perfection a desirable trait, so even if his personality isn't unique, he's still a likeable character. I also think his backstory/in-game story in-general is very fascinating. I think you're so focused on looking for flaws that you're ignoring literally everything else. You should play the game again and refresh your memory.
I voted for Isaac from Golden Sun. Why?So... who did everyone vote for so far?
Shoot.I think Sylux is a likely character; we'll probably see it get in in the future, maybe even as DLC via the Ballot. These are all solid reasons for you to vote for that character. However, I'd like to give my take on each reason. Bare in mind these are just my opinions/interpretations of your reasoning. It's all good logic, it's just that I have different criteria for voting, different even than most people.
When compared to the other one-shots Metroid has in the series(other hunters, REMEMBAH ME, UR NUT AUTHORIZD), Sylux outclasses them by far even with it's one-shot status since it was given more focus, albeit passively.+Favorite Metroid character
+Fairly popular darkhorse character in Metroid
Popularity is the basis of the ballot. Even if everyone voted for the most ridiculously lackluster character because everyone loved said character, than we still would've done our jobs. I, however, root for the characters I think would introduce new playstyles. There's not much new things to add at this point, but there are still characters with potential for uniqueness. I also don't believe a characters plot arch-type isn't important, so long as the character is relevant to the franchise.
Nothing to add here.+Can bring variety to the table
This is immensely important to me. While I do agree that Sylux has plenty of potential, and will even go so far as to say that it has more than most, I don't like how people tend to smack this on every character. I admittedly think about the game balance more than most people, almost to an unhealthy degree, and I don't think every character has potential to be in the game. People forget that the criteria for actually getting on the roster are many and high. Even if a character can be unique, there are probably a dozen characters more eligible. This, unfortunately, is true with nearly every character in existence.
Were it not for Kensuke Tanabe's statement at E3, Sylux would still be seen as another one-shot. It's taking some time, yes, but Sylux is on it's way to become a recurring party in the Prime series.+Confirmed to appear in a future installment
Recurrence/relevance is an important reason to me as well. Magolor is one of a handfull of recurring characters who showed up only recently in the Kirby series. That's another reason I'd say he's relevant enough, but it's not why I voted for him.
This is really only because Ridley and Dark Samus are NPC's and the other one-shots fail to stand up to Sylux's current status.+No other viable Metroid characters for DLC
I can understand why people want more representation for certain series, but I try to look past the franchise barriers. I could care less about where they're from, I just want unique characters. (Which is why I'm sure I'd be happy with Sylux despite the fact that Metroid isn't my favorite Nintendo franchise, nor is Sylux my favorite Metroid character.)
Because it's an underrated character that deserves exposure. If you think about it, it's not unlike Robin during Gematsu's prime.If there's any other reason I'd be happy to here you elaborate further. Give us a deep, emotional speech on why Sylux means so much to you.
True your honor...wait a minute, what am I doing in a courtroom? Did I get involved on one of Wright's work again?Oh. Um, oops?
He's relatable, yes, but not necessarily an interesting character, that's my main problem. Then again, that jolly ole @Moydow fella said that he's better in a recent translation, and I haven't played his game in a while, so I dunno.
The courtroom is hardly a pleasant sight these days, I'm afraid...
It'll end up helping someone(maybe not Viridi sadly but we need her and Shantae)Interesting... Not that I'm complaining, but I'm starting to think literally every person who voted save me voted for as many characters as they wanted. Does nobody else pay attention?
Not sure who Firion or Zero are. Explanation?
I, for one, find perfection a desirable trait, so even if his personality isn't unique, he's still a likeable character. I also think his backstory/in-game story in-general is very fascinating. I think you're so focused on looking for flaws that you're ignoring literally everything else. You should play the game again and refresh your memory.
Zero is one of the 3 main characters from the Mega Man X series, while Firion is the main protagonist of Final Fantasy II NES which was originally released in japan and never made it to the west until the remakes of the original FF2 came out for the GBA and PSP.Not sure who Firion or Zero are. Explanation?
Y-you mean...True your honor...wait a minute, what am I doing in a courtroom? Did I get involved on one of Wright's work again?
I must agree that Isaac has much potential. If I wasn't so stoked up on Magolor, I might consider voting for him. The main reason I won't is that I've never played a Golden Sun game. I want to be 100% sure about the potential of the character I voted for. That's another reason I voted Mags. I'm probably know Kirby better than any person on Smashboards, and I say that with much confidence. Also, I don't believe in the concept behind voting for a character simply because everyone else is voting for them. It almost defeats the purpose of the Ballot.I voted for Isaac from Golden Sun. Why?
- His games were very popular, well recieved. and sold very well.
- Highly requested among us Smash fans, being almost always in the top three on character polls.
- Is an interesting character and would have an interesting moveset. There is not a single character in any Smash game that utilizes earth based attacks.
- If we are gonna go with that old notion that some characters not only represent a franchise, but also represent a game system in Nintendo's history. If so, then Isaac would be perfect to rep the GBA era (doesn't count for two obvious reasons)
- Call me bias, but I ******* loved Golden Sun and The Lost Age. Those games need more love.
I have more reasons, but I'm not gonna list them.
I could get behind that, but I fell this would limit any potential for unique newcomers Metroid may offer, so I'm gonna say no. I can understand the logic behind it, though.Hey IAmMetaKnight , if there's one thing I liked about Roy, it's how he's kinda like the king in chess. He's a load for most of the game, but then he becomes great (A little too late for my taste, but hey...).
Also, am I the only person who thinks that Metroid is best repped with just Samus and Samus? I don't want to start anything, but the series was all about being isolated, so Samus being the only rep felt perfect to me.
I'll look into both. I know who Zero is, but there are just so many Zeros out there, it becomes hard to know who people are talking about when they simply say "Zero."Zero is one of the 3 main characters from the Mega Man X series, while Firion is the main protagonist of Final Fantasy II NES which was originally released in japan and never made it to the west until the remakes of the original FF2 came out for the GBA and PSP.
Agh, I know! I feel so conficted between logics!I could get behind that, but I fell this would limit any potential for unique newcomers Metroid may offer, so I'm gonna say no. I can understand the logic behind it, though.
People use the only appeared in one game means they're a one-shot and can never be in Smash. Midna and Ghirahim being targets of this. Some might argue that Sylux appeared in 2 and has a chance of being in a sequel, but since that hasn't happened yet, blarg. Technically, since Roy, Robin, and Lucina only appeared in one game, then they shouldn't be in Smash then. Great logic, huh?Technically, Rundas still has a slim chance, dead doesn't mean you can't get in a fighting game. His popularity and thus viability doesn't match Sylux's, though.
Totes agree on Dark Samus though.
You gotta wonder if people like that pay attention.People use the only appeared in one game means they're a one-shot and can never be in Smash.
First off, why are you on here talking to us? Get on your Wii U, go to the shop and buy that ****! You are missing out on some fine GBA titles.I must agree that Isaac has much potential. If I wasn't so stoked up on Magolor, I might consider voting for him. The main reason I won't is that I've never played a Golden Sun game. I want to be 100% sure about the potential of the character I voted for. That's another reason I voted Mags. I'm probably know Kirby better than any person on Smashboards, and I say that with much confidence. Also, I don't believe in the concept behind voting for a character simply because everyone else is voting for them. It almost defeats the purpose of the ballot.
Well, considering the explicit interest from Tanabe for a Sylux and Samus centric story(and the Feds) in the future, it's all but confirmed that Sylux will appear in a sequel. What I would describe as a chance right now is Sylux appearing in Federation Force; seeing as Tanabe has compared FF to the Marvel Cinematic Universe in execution(build up with several titles, have one big spectacle later), I say there's a solid chance.People use the only appeared in one game means they're a one-shot and can never be in Smash. Midna and Ghirahim being targets of this. Some might argue that Sylux appeared in 2 and has a chance of being in a sequel, but since that hasn't happened yet, blarg. Technically, since Roy, Robin, and Lucina only appeared in one game, then they shouldn't be in Smash then. Great logic, huh?
Okay, that's kind of a good idea... Not really exclusive to the cinematic since comics and such can do that as well. I mean, you're able to establish different characters. Samus is the Captain America, but you could establish characters affiliated with Samus whether good or bad like a Falcon or a Red Skull. So, you could end up making another bounty hunter who's more up-close like a Predator and does their thing in whatever sector of the universe and they can cross paths with Samus and help each other out or just by chance end up helping each other out, but not realizing it. I wonder if Metroid Prime Hunters was supposed to do this?Well, considering the explicit interest from Tanabe for a Sylux and Samus centric story(and the Feds) in the future, it's all but confirmed that Sylux will appear in a sequel. What I would describe as a chance right now is Sylux appearing in Federation Force; seeing as Tanabe has compared FF to the Marvel Cinematic Universe in execution(build up with several titles, have one big spectacle later), I say there's a solid chance.
The "logic" really only applies if it's in someone's benefit to diss a character. You can imagine how many times I've seen Sylux dissed because "not Ridley".
From what I've seen, I think Bomberman and Pheonix Wright could be unique characters, though not as unique as some. I think those are good choices, especially if you like the games they're from. I've never played any of either franchises, however, so I can't make a final say on them.I voted for Bandana Dee, Captain Toad, Bomberman, and Phoenix Wright in that order in a span of a few months.
Why did I vote for them? I like them, the games they come from, and I think that they could be unique.
I've always maintained that K. Rool and Isaac are likely to get in via the ballot. However, I've thought quite a bit about their playstyles, and I'm just gonna come clean: I think it would be too difficult/impossible to properly represent K. Rool in a balanced manner. There. I said it. It's not that he lacks recognition or uniqueness, it's just that I feel like he may not be able to get in for the same reason as...First off, why are you on here talking to us? Get on your Wii U, go to the shop and buy that ****! You are missing out on some fine GBA titles.
Secondly, I do understand and agree with your decision on wanting characters like Magolor. It's pretty much the same reason many of us want someone like K. Rool and Isaac. We love them and they can bring so much to the table.
I can understand your reasoning, but honestly, if there's someone you want to see? Maybe cast a ballot anyway. Just one, for measure.I haven't voted on the Smash ballot and I don't think I will. Probably because a lot of the characters people want are characters from games I've never played and know nothing about.
Eh. He ain't nearly as big, typically, and flight isn't a concern. Maybe you can argue that most of the villains in Smash have been heroes, or at least anti-heroes, in other capacities. But while Bowser, Wario, Dark Pit, King Dedede and Meta Knight might get that treatment, Ganon falls flat (Mewtwo depends on whether you see him as actually malicious, or merely neutral).I've always maintained that K. Rool and Isaac are likely to get in via the ballot. However, I've thought quite a bit about their playstyles, and I'm just gonna come clean: I think it would be too difficult/impossible to properly represent K. Rool in a balanced manner. There. I said it. It's not that he lacks recognition or uniqueness, it's just that I feel like he may not be able to get in for the same reason as...
as...as....*gulp*Ridley (please don't murder me)
As far back as 2013 this was touched on, if not in the same manner.Okay, that's kind of a good idea... Not really exclusive to the cinematic since comics and such can do that as well. I mean, you're able to establish different characters. Samus is the Captain America, but you could establish characters affiliated with Samus whether good or bad like a Falcon or a Red Skull. So, you could end up making another bounty hunter who's more up-close like a Predator and does their thing in whatever sector of the universe and they can cross paths with Samus and help each other out or just by chance end up helping each other out, but not realizing it. I wonder if Metroid Prime Hunters was supposed to do this?
In all honesty, every single new Hunter from the namesake game was made to accommodate the multiplayer, but even with it's relatively simple plot(for Metroid standards anyway), it was quick to be noticed that only Sylux and Weavel had fleshed out backstories(hating the Federation and being a Space Pirate injured in battle respectively) and were given slightly more emphasis compared to the others. Both have detailed ships(Sylux uses it's ship as part of a boss battle and Weavel's can be seen for 3 seconds while arriving at the Oubliette) and supposed connections to Samus; the difference being that Sylux was given more detail in general."You remember Metroid Prime Hunters. I’m thinking about things like how we could make that go out further, with all these different bounty hunters as well."
Ignoring money concerns, but if Nintendo could pull of a Phantom Pain where it's misleading you to think it's not a Metroid game, then that might be interesting. There could be hints that this is Metroid like maybe mentions of ancient technology, vague descriptions of events that happened in Metroid games, or something. Dark Souls does this with Dark Souls 2 and probably going to happen in 3. Some of the stuff would be easy like "Space Pirates" - that's really generic when you think about it. It wouldn't reveal to you that it is a Metroid game or tied to Metroid until the very end, so something like you suddenly encounter Metroids as it's revealed this game takes place before Metroid 1. The issue is how they would do it and how people would react. Best case is people are shocked that X game is part of Metroid. Worst case is that people are angry they made a Metroid that isn't a Metroid with Samus. Nintendo could just flat out tell us it's part of the Metroid universe like how Cavia said that Nier is a result of one of Drakengard's multiple endings.As far back as 2013 this was touched on, if not in the same manner.
In all honesty, every single new Hunter from the namesake game was made to accommodate the multiplayer, but even with it's relatively simple plot(for Metroid standards anyway), it was quick to be noticed that only Sylux and Weavel had fleshed out backstories(hating the Federation and being a Space Pirate injured in battle respectively) and were given slightly more emphasis compared to the others. Both have detailed ships(Sylux uses it's ship as part of a boss battle and Weavel's can be seen for 3 seconds while arriving at the Oubliette) and supposed connections to Samus; the difference being that Sylux was given more detail in general.
If Hunters had not been a spinof and/or a console game, I could have seen these backstories being expanded more for every Hunter; as it stands, though, we only have two characters that mean anything in the grand scheme of things and only one of them is confirmed to move on, that being the one with the greater emphasis.
I really don't think that Metroid is in the position where it should attempt this right now even discounting money concerns. It's better off regaining ground with whatever it has planned, getting in good standing once more like it was in the Brawl era, and then trying this. The ways it could backfire are many.Ignoring money concerns, but if Nintendo could pull of a Phantom Pain where it's misleading you to think it's not a Metroid game, then that might be interesting. There could be hints that this is Metroid like maybe mentions of ancient technology, vague descriptions of events that happened in Metroid games, or something. Dark Souls does this with Dark Souls 2 and probably going to happen in 3. Some of the stuff would be easy like "Space Pirates" - that's really generic when you think about it. It wouldn't reveal to you that it is a Metroid game or tied to Metroid until the very end, so something like you suddenly encounter Metroids as it's revealed this game takes place before Metroid 1. The issue is how they would do it and how people would react. Best case is people are shocked that X game is part of Metroid. Worst case is that people are angry they made a Metroid that isn't a Metroid with Samus. Nintendo could just flat out tell us it's part of the Metroid universe like how Cavia said that Nier is a result of one of Drakengard's multiple endings.
I'd love me a Soul Calibur-esque FE fighting game.After Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem comes out, I kinda hope they get a fighting game crossover.
I love me some fighting games.
It's really hard for me to wavedash because my wii broke, but my wii u is fine and I don't have a classic controler. So basically I have to wavedash with a wiichuck.I'd love me a Soul Calibur-esque FE fighting game.
Also, today I tried out Project M at a LAN party for the first time and it was super fun! I also realized how difficult it is to actually wavedash, but l-cancelling seemed pretty easy. I kept switching between Marth, Mario, and the Space Animals. I also played a lot of Wii U as well but we had to resort to using 3DS's because nobody brought controllers. All in all, today was a great day!
And they mostly rhyme with Other M.The ways it could backfire are many.
Seeing Squirtle again would be fun.Oh hey I might as well vote for Squirtle/Ivysaur now that I think about it