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ThunderSageNun

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not gonna be happy if children return, I hated the time travel sheanigans of Awakening and it's the main factor why I consider its plot to be bad
 

Troykv

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I admit, if Chrom ever does get into Smash, he should have his SMT X FE look as selectable.

Also, *BIG SPOILERS FOR FATES GAMEPLAY-WISE*

Yes, it's exactly what you are thinking it is. Go wild, people.

Edit: Actually, be careful there. Just got word it may not be real.
Ehhh... How exactly this fits in the story?
 
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Weeman

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Hell yes! I noticed that I was getting a lot more kills with his dolphin slash after the patch, however I assumed that it was simply a placebo effect. Glad to see it has been tested and confirmed!

Also, obligatory
So Chrom is fighting his shadow?
We Persona now.
 

Meta651

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So Chrom is fighting his shadow?
We Persona now.
In fact, in the SMT x FE treehouse they said that they're called Persomas and I think all of this Persomas are from FE. So yeah, we Persona now.

Have you guys seen this?

Not related to anything, but it's pretty freaking hilarious XD


I don't understand why people were thinking that :4marth:/:4lucina: were bad in the first place.
This reminds me that a friend that's in engineering in other college send me a video of this but it was to motivate people to go and vote in an assembly.

This is the video if anyone is curious.

 

RobinOnDrugs

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Ehhh... How exactly this fits in the story?
That's what I'm wondering too. I'm hoping they're just optional and have no effect on the story. It feels like they're bringing it back because of Awakening.
 

BindingShield

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Future children confirmed. Best case scenario, we have FE4 2.0. Everybody dies. Best ending.

Probable scenario. More time travel/ Parellel dimension bull. Future children become new staple of series. Fire Emblem Games make progressively less sense and end up like Final Fantasy, to shoehorn them in.
 

Matsushi

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[collapse= whoops forgot the spoiler]I'm really not sure whether or not I like the idea of future children. It makes the game seem a little.. messy, for lack of a better word. However, I don't wish to jump to conclusions immediately, so we'll see how this all pans out![/collapse]

On a different note, Sacred Stones is now available at the eShop! I bid you farewell, outside world.
 
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I've always known that Chrom was a demon, especially when considering the Gematsu leak.

Ehhh... How exactly this fits in the story?
It doesn't.
I don't mind marriage returning, I actually want it to, but I don't see how the children can be incorporated in this game.


Supposedly, Dengaki leaked.
So this is real? Marriage is returning.
Time for the return of Shipping: The Video Game!
 

ThunderSageNun

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When children from the future and time travel sheanigans are brought back just because

And I was starting to get more excited for the game again, bleh
[/collapse]
 

Neoleo21

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I hope IS remembers that the only way grown up children can exist alongside their parents is through multiverse theory, which they failed to establish in awakening until the DLC.
 
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BindingShield

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We honestly need to respond to how Fire Emblem Fates is turning out. It is problematic.


I'll repost From Reddit.

Let's boycott Hoshido. Well, maybe Boycott is too strong of a word. Just hear me out.

Alright let's get started! We all know that Hoshido IS the easier version in this split. Nohr has been shown to have harder objectives and whatnot. Now why would Intelligent Systems make one version harder than the other? Why not make both STRATEGY games have equal complexity and depth?


The answer is simple. They are gauging the market. Hoshido represents Awakening fans, the new blood of the series. Nohr stands for the traditional setting of Fire Emblem, the hard turn based strategy. In this case, every customer will be voting with their wallet. Whichever side gets more moolah will be the side IS caters too. Money talks in a way logic or design does not.

Some may argue that it doesn't matter. The two game system will continue, and we will always have a "Hard" Fire Emblem and an "Easy" Fire Emblem. I disagree. Such a model is not sustainable and fiscally stupid. Why make two games when one will make most of your profits?

In the end, Fire Emblem Fates will determine the Fate of the series. It will determine how it will turn out in the future.

So how do we change how Fire Emblem will evolve?

Its quite simple. Money talks. If enough people boycott Hoshido or even wait a week or two before getting it, it will send a message to IS. We all buy Nohr, to show that we want a more serious linear plot with more advanced strategy.

I know about the Nintendo Dream Leaks. I know how many of you are not going to buy Fire Emblem Fates as a result. But all of you who plan to boycott Fire Emblem Fates entirely, you are part of the problem. Your voice has no money behind it. To IS, your opinion does not matter. Buy Nohr. Only Nohr. Maybe the next Fire Emblem will be more the way you all, we all, want it. But it won't be unless the Nohr side gets more support.

To those of you who are going to buy both versions, go ahead and do so, but PLEASE, buy Nohr first and Hoshido after you beat it, even if its just a week later. Opening week sales are SUPER important in judging the fanbase.
 
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Nah

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So if marriage and kids really is gonna be in Fates/If, how are they gonna explain it this time? I'm fine with them including it, it's just that I'd rather that they don't just have 'em come from the future again. Wouldn't be terribly fun if they re-use too many details from Awakening. Not like you have a whole lotta options for explaining why your grown-up child is suddenly there and ready to fight for you, but.....
 

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The way I see it, children in Fates could be explained via time skips.

I know, it makes the story incredibly inconsistent if it ends up having time skips, but it's the only logical, non-time travel or stupid way to explain their presence.
 
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Moydow

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you lost me already

At least they're not petitioning for it to be cancelled, that'd be just stupid. The guy has a point that people simply not buying either of the games isn't going to help, since no sales at all will just get the series dropped.

From what I've been hearing, the children thing may be optional and/or not relevant to the main plot? If that's the case, I can live with it (even if I'd have preferred if they weren't there at all). Still going to be awkward to explain them being there at all, but...
 
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At least they're not petitioning for it to be cancelled, that'd be just stupid.
Don't give them ideas. :emptysheep:

Because the fact that the god forsaken cancel Fed. Force petition has 12.6 thousand signatures makes me sad.
 

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Don't give them ideas. :emptysheep:

Because the fact that the god forsaken cancel Fed. Force petition has 12.6 thousand signatures makes me sad.
Speaking of Federation Force, I wonder how that video is doing?
*looks at video*
5,000 likes and 50,000 dislikes now.
Most of Nintendo's videos don't even get that much traffic. And now this video is getting tons of it for the express purpose of hating it's very existence. :ohwell:
 
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Ivander

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I won't judge anybody's opinion, even if some are a bit melodramatic, but please don't go the way of the "fans" that appeared after Federation Force.
 

BindingShield

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Don't give them ideas. :emptysheep:

Because the fact that the god forsaken cancel Fed. Force petition has 12.6 thousand signatures makes me sad.
Well it was a very unpopular game.

You know Moydow, I actually wrote out that request. The only way to express our opinion on Hoshido or Nohr is to vote with our wallet. I love fire emblem and want it to focus more on strategy. Um, was any part of what I wrote rude or offensive? If so I'll change it. I tried to be as neutral as possible.
 

Moydow

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You know Moydow, I actually wrote out that request. The only way to express our opinion on Hoshido or Nohr is to vote with our wallet. I love fire emblem and want it to focus more on strategy. Um, was any part of what I wrote rude or offensive? If so I'll change it. I tried to be as neutral as possible.
No, it makes sense, and I can agree with it for the most part. I just don't have a particularly positive opinion of Reddit, is all. :p Nothing personal, of course.
 
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ThunderSageNun

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We honestly need to respond to how Fire Emblem Fates is turning out. It is problematic.


I'll repost From Reddit.

Let's boycott Hoshido. Well, maybe Boycott is too strong of a word. Just hear me out.

Alright let's get started! We all know that Hoshido IS the easier version in this split. Nohr has been shown to have harder objectives and whatnot. Now why would Intelligent Systems make one version harder than the other? Why not make both STRATEGY games have equal complexity and depth?


The answer is simple. They are gauging the market. Hoshido represents Awakening fans, the new blood of the series. Nohr stands for the traditional setting of Fire Emblem, the hard turn based strategy. In this case, every customer will be voting with their wallet. Whichever side gets more moolah will be the side IS caters too. Money talks in a way logic or design does not.

Some may argue that it doesn't matter. The two game system will continue, and we will always have a "Hard" Fire Emblem and an "Easy" Fire Emblem. I disagree. Such a model is not sustainable and fiscally stupid. Why make two games when one will make most of your profits?

In the end, Fire Emblem Fates will determine the Fate of the series. It will determine how it will turn out in the future.

So how do we change how Fire Emblem will evolve?

Its quite simple. Money talks. If enough people boycott Hoshido or even wait a week or two before getting it, it will send a message to IS. We all buy Nohr, to show that we want a more serious linear plot with more advanced strategy.

I know about the Nintendo Dream Leaks. I know how many of you are not going to buy Fire Emblem Fates as a result. But all of you who plan to boycott Fire Emblem Fates entirely, you are part of the problem. Your voice has no money behind it. To IS, your opinion does not matter. Buy Nohr. Only Nohr. Maybe the next Fire Emblem will be more the way you all, we all, want it. But it won't be unless the Nohr side gets more support.

To those of you who are going to buy both versions, go ahead and do so, but PLEASE, buy Nohr first and Hoshido after you beat it, even if its just a week later. Opening week sales are SUPER important in judging the fanbase.
What if there's a cool bundle with both games at a cheaper price and a nifty bonus though?
I might end up buying both games used as I'm not a supporter of the divide the game in 2 separate versions, I mean, that whole "you get the content of 2 games" and "the game would cost twice as much if put into one" is very silly to me, I highly doubt the production costs of the game are that high and I doubt having more content into one package is a problem. Like, if a games value was measured by its amount of content, imagine the prices we'd see on the industry? Gaming would become an even bigger luxury than it already is. Alternatively, I might buy one version first close to release and the next used later down the road, it all depends on the games availability where I live and my current economic situation.
 
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FalKoopa

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Wait, I know marriage is confirmed, but are future children explicitly confirmed?

:231:
 
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RobinOnDrugs

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The magazine with the information will be released tomorrow on the 20th, so hopefully we find out more about it.
 

Ivander

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Wait, I know marriage is confirmed, but are future children explicitly confirmed?

:231:
That's what it seems to be. The first source was supposedly from Nintendo Dream. The second source is supposedly from Dengaki which, before the scan leak, their cover said that they will be talking about Marriage.
Also, someone said this about the dialogue.
Kamui's daughter is apparently named Kanna. A person said this about her dialogue.
Kanna's dialogue:
これがあれば・・・あたしもお父さんと一緒に外の世界で闘えるかな?
I can do this...? I can fight together with father in the outside* world?

*The difficult part is that 外 means both "outside" but can also be read for "other" world. It is usually for "outside" though (same character in gaijin, for foreigner)

If it is outside world, maybe children are kept in My Castle for awhile until they reach a certain level? xD

Maybe people age slower in this world?

Orrr...there's time travel. xD Sigh.
 
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The amount of spoilers appearing now would bring to mind how much of a walking spoiler Xenoblade is.

Also this is once again fitting.

 

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Would it be too much to ask to actually have both FE styles? The marriage/world building aspect can be for the handhelds, which have a bigger install base and tend to take a less attached effort that handhelds accommodate for, while "traditional" FE can be on consoles where we going to sit down and go the distance with anyway.

There's no reason to dismiss one over the other. No one really has a inalienable right to demand that one side of the fanbase be completely ignored and snubbed at forevermore.
 

TheWerdna

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[collapse= :|]
When children from the future and time travel sheanigans are brought back just because

And I was starting to get more excited for the game again, bleh
[/collapse]
I for one really loved the 2ed gen children in awakening.... But, i do not like it coming back here. It feels super contrived.
 
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