Social "This is a good result!" - Shulk Discussion & Social Thread

[Deleted member]

Shulk was revealed alongside every other veteran in the series, Inklings, Daisy, and a certain big purple space dragon.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Well didn't expect a cut, but we did get QoL buffs that I did not expect. This is a good result, indeed.

I mained this guy for a long ass time so i'm sure i'll play him again in Ultimate, at least on the side. Definitely cant wait to get my hands on him again.


Lol at sakurai doing everything he can to spoil Seven. Even if it means making a chain attack have 4 people instead of 3, which is the whole point.

 

[Altais]

I like the change to his neutral special. Personally, I found it a real pain to switch between Monado arts in Smash 4. But having a directional menu makes things much easier--and quicker. I actually thought of a similar idea when writing a moveset for Isaac from Golden Sun.

 

[notyourparadigm]

Gone are the days of tapping B to choose your Monado Art; now you can quickly choose one by holding B and highlighting it with the Control Stick.​

Actually, the days aren't gone; it seems as though you can choose to do either the cycling or the instant selection method. I like this choice as it gives you the flexibility to choose which method you want, especially since MALLC relies somewhat on a delay before the art activates.

 

[Deleted member]

Actually, the days aren't gone; it seems as though you can choose to do either the cycling or the instant selection method. I like this choice as it gives you the flexibility to choose which method you want, especially since MALLC relies somewhat on a delay before the art activates.

Edited the OP to more accurately reflect that. And yeah, it's nice to have both options.

 

[Culex]

Actually, the days aren't gone; it seems as though you can choose to do either the cycling or the instant selection method. I like this choice as it gives you the flexibility to choose which method you want, especially since MALLC relies somewhat on a delay before the art activates.

This is a much needed addition. I like how "on point" it is.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Can we still use button presses or is it always directional?

 

[Tremendo Dude]

Can we still use button presses or is it always directional?

You can use both. Cycling will be better for setting up Arts half a second in advance, while using the directional dial will be useful for in the moment switches.

If nothing else, I think this will make Shulk significantly more accessible.

 

[Idon]

So about the art cycle, does it flip if I'm facing the opposite direction? I'd hate to turn my thinking from forward/backward to left/right thinking midfight.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

So about the art cycle, does it flip if I'm facing the opposite direction? I'd hate to turn my thinking from forward/backward to left/right thinking midfight.

Probably not. No reason to have it like that.

 

[Zatchiel]

I'll probably still use tapping to get to the first three arts. But ease of access for Smash and Buster? It'll be like switching into pajamas.

Happy to see the monadoboy days are far from over.

 

[CardiganBoy]

I never doubted this studious boy, so happy he's back, i will main him again and his new way to choose arts is going to be of great help.

I hope he gets a new costume too, his "naked" one is cool and all but c'mon now, he's just "naked", i need his Eryth Sea set or the Makhna Forest set.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Happy to see Monado Boy return. Mained him for awhile in Smash 4. Can't wait to try him out again.

 

[azureHayabusa]

I personally like this change, the demo in the direct did a pretty good job show casing how you can just straight up go from one art to the next without debuffing anything thanks to the directional dial. Hopefully his tricks carry over from 4, Shulk is so much fun to play as.

 

[Heatswave]

Really happy he's back.
The change inchoosing his monado arts makes sense, also lowers the barrier for new and casual players who thought him to be to complicated to use...

 

[Iag0]

I didnt think he would get cut anyways, but the changes so far seem promising.

 

[azureHayabusa]

So according to Sakurai himself, landing lag has been decreased all around... So... should we MALLC or should we naw?... Guess we'll have to see.

Here's the link:
https://twitter.com/AllSourceGaming/status/1009461626871918592

 

[Tremendo Dude]

Hopefully they extend the same love to us. I don't think Art Activation iframes will exist anymore, but MALLC itself is a toss-up. It won't be quite as useful or gamebreaking either way, though.

 

[bortkupo]

Shulk was my boyo and I'm glad to see him (and well, everyone else) come back. I'd kill to see a Xenoblade 2 rep, preferably Pyra because it wouldn't hurt to have another female fighter in the game, but I'd like to see Rex if Sakurai doesn't wanna add Pyra.

 

[azureHayabusa]

Looks that way, guess we'll never know until we get more footage or a demo with him in it (hopefully). One thing is for certain, he's going to be a beast when it comes to edge guarding. I do wonder what kind of combo confirms (If possible) can you do utilizing the directional dial? That's gonna be the first thing I test.

 

[lanky_gunner]

I really like the new change to selecting arts. Sucks we might not have the same tricks we had in 4, but honestly, sometimes I'm a dumb when selecting arts, so not having to cycle through is gonna make him so much easier to use and quicker to master.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Thinking about it i would have preferred if Shulk's Final Smash cicled with the other party members, i just want to see Reyn, Melia and Sharla, man.

 

[NintenRob]

I'm not really a fan of the addition of Fiora to the final smash, I mean it'll be great to see her with a nice quality model but chain attacks are meant to be three people things, I was a nice callback to how many people were in a battle.

But at least this should mean he should get new voice clips so he can call her out. Maybe he can partake in a guidance or coded this time.

 

[Hinata]

God, there are too many characters I want to main on the current Ultimate roster. I was a Shulk main for a little over a year, and it's hella tempting to go back to him in this game.

 

[Masonomace]

Right now it's hard to decide if I primary shulk, Pokemon trainer, or both. Honestly. The first thing I'll do is mess with monado shield, and if it's awful, then I won't care about shulk as much for the time being.

 

[NintenRob]

I like Shulk and definitely didn't just post here thinking I was somewhere else and quickly edited my post

 

[Mr Gentleman]

Hello Monado boys!
with the overall increases to speed and reduction of landing lag on aerials across the board I'm really hoping Shulk is gonna be good this time.
I really wanna try maining him this time around.

he has such a fun and interesting design and Xenoblade Chronicles was one of the best RPGs I've played so I also have an attachment to the character.

 

[Iridium]

For , I hope frame data is not much of issue. Even if it not the best, they can at least tone down landing and ending lag he suffers to not make landings for example so tricky at times.

 

[Tremendo Dude]

I worry that momentum carrying over from ground to air will allow every character to put out a hitbox in Shulk's blind spot like Diddy and Sheik can with Fair in Smash 4. If his frame data is improved, this won't be a problem, but if it's not, I think we'll end up seeing Shulk players playing much more grounded than before.

 

[Gallowglass]

I like some of the changes they've made with Shulk like the selection of his monado abilites but I don't like the change to his final smash.

1. Xenoblade Chronicle is a 3 party RPG and when you do a chain attack its between the three you've chosen. This is well represented in Smash 4. But now they've added 4th person is seems kind of out of place.

2. Using Mecha Fiora is a major spoiler for the game. This is even more of a spoiler seeing her being part of your team.

A better way they could of done his final Smash is by having the party members swap out with each Final Smash. So one time you use it its Dunban and Riki, another time it could be Reyn and Sharla, and another time it could be Dunban and Melia. And so forth.

 

[HypnoMaster372]

Honesty, if Sakurai really wanted to include Fiora in Shulk’s Final Smash regardless of spoilers, why couldn’t he swapped Riki out in exchange for her to keep in match with how Chain Attacks worked in XC? Like Riki was already an assist trophy in Smash 4 & is also retaining this role in Smash Ulitmate, so it’s just redundant that he’s also in Shulk’s FS instead of one of the other party members or, in Ultimate’s case, not having him be there at all.

 

[lanky_gunner]

A better way they could of done his final Smash is by having the party members swap out with each Final Smash. So one time you use it its Dunban and Riki, another time it could be Reyn and Sharla, and another time it could be Dunban and Melia. And so forth.

I thought the same thing could of been applied to Robin (mainly because I wasn't a fan of Lucina being a 3rd Marth), with Chrom showing up with Female Robin, and Lucina showing up with Male. I mean I guess the same thing could be applied with the whole cast of Awakening (or a few).

But then it becomes all about making new models, recording new dialogue for each character, setting up code so it switches out (which would of slowed down the 3DS, I assume, since characters who could switch mid battle disappeared), all for something you'll see for just a few seconds.

Chrom was probably chosen because they did dialogue with him anyway for Palutena's Guidance with Robin, so it was easy to have him do a few lines for the Final Smash. Same applies to Riki. He's already got Assist Trophy lines, just keep him in the Final Smash to avoid hiring so many voice actors. As for Dunban...strange pick, I thought Reyn or Melia would of been the 3rd wheel, but I guess Dunban was the only actor they could get?

Fiora was probably a popular enough choice they decided to include her in on the action though. It sucks it muddles up the 3 party system XC had, but this game is purely for fanservice, so I can look past it.

Honesty, if Sakurai really wanted to include Fiora in Shulk’s Final Smash regardless of spoilers, why couldn’t he swapped Riki out in exchange for her to keep in match with how Chain Attacks worked in XC? Like Riki was already an assist trophy in Smash 4 & is also retaining this role in Smash Ulitmate, so it’s just redundant that he’s also in Shulk’s FS instead of one of the other party members or, in Ultimate’s case, not having him be there at all.

Well, see above what I said about Riki. Probably the only reason he's both.

 

[azuakisizuka]

I heard his render have been upgraded alongside Falco...

 

[Masonomace]

The more I think about it, the more I start steaming. How is it plausible to add Seven > Reyn in his FS sequence and not even showcase Reyn Assist Trophy straight-up. So wack man...

But I was playing some Pokemon Trainer in Brawl the other day and, well, the combos and the fluid play of the characters is so fun that I'm stoked to play both and . I'm excited to use Shulk's Stab down move a lot more. It looks so promising right now, even if it's not concrete in the final build.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Shulk's different skins change his hair colors to match all of the other party members! That's super cool.

I haven't seen any Shulk gameplay yet, I'll be on the lookout.

 

[Whippersnapper]

I have found some gameplay! Its pretty hard to see but it reveals a lot of goods stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq1JUGsQbnE
Just look at this dash dance speed. https://youtu.be/oq1JUGsQbnE?t=29
The channel the footage is from has 5 other videos of Shulk gameplay.

 

[ToxoT]

here's what spanish players are saying about shulk at the moment. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn4pp
shame the only footage there is is so low quality, id really like to see for myself how his frame data has changed. but i can definitely see what theyre saying about shulk's ground game being better, and nair undeniably looks faster in the videos.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Anyone knows if there's any new music track from the first Xenoblade game?

 

[Plain Yogurt]

Got to play a 2.5 minute FFA with our Monado Boy today! No in-depth stuff or anything, but here's some impressions
-Air Slash and Back Air have nice, snappy animations. Even though their frame data was generally similar, it felt good to just SHUNK that Back Air into folks instead of that paddle stroke he had going in 4. Gonna miss Back Air's front hitbox though...
-Dash Attack looks a lot less smooth. Shulk seems to just kinda heave the Monado to the side while lurching forward. I actually killed with it though! Which like, NEVER happens at decent percents in Smash 4! I don't remember what percent the other guy was at though, so it might still kinda suck.
-Having a fast Nair felt SUPER weird. It was never much of a rising aerial anyways, but at least it lingered before. Kinda wish they'd let one of his other aerials linger to make up for it, but hey, faster Nair!
-A sorta laggy setup + FFA chaos = there was NO way I was gonna get used to the new Monado switching. In other news, switching them the old way seems to have sped up a little, from what I can tell. I may have imagined it, but the art seemed to activate faster than Smash 4.

Overall, it feels like I have to re-learn him a little, which I really wasn't expecting. Should be interesting labbing him all over again!

 

[Calamitas]

Anyone knows if there's any new music track from the first Xenoblade game?

Based on the most recent Smash Direct, no. The music menu as they've shown lists eleven songs, which is three more than there were in Smash 4. However, we already know what the three new songs are, and they're all directly ported from 2.